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[cmessaz]

Persephone wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

So CDPR made fun of TW2 (DAII you mean?) then a guy on metacrtic who works for Bioware gave TW2 a 0 score.

Yeah.

Eh?

Proof?

Bioware_Intern, DavidGaider and Mike_Faillaw2 on Metacritic gave it a 0. It's totally legit.

Ah, I see. Of course, that is ENTIRELY legit.

Couldn't' possibly be because they didn't like the game?

[KnightofPhoenix]

Persephone wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Aaleel wrote...
I can only speak for myself, and I wouldn't be upset, like I said if it's funny it's funny.  I doubt there'd be outrage though, but rather something more along the lines of "they're just mad because TW2 was everything DA2 should have been" types of posts.   

Depending on how they poke fun, I might be one of them.

If for instance Bioware wants to make fun of The Witcher by claiming that they don't do, say, political plots well (as in implying that they do). I'd laugh my ass off....at Bioware.

You really can't give Bioware ANY credit these days, eh?

How did my post imply that exactly?

If Bioware wants to poke fun at TW (which I wouldn't mind at all), they better do so in things that they do well. Like romance, or companion interaction. Or tutorials.

But if thery honestly want to claim that they make better political plots for example (I'd say plots in general personally), or say that their choices have more weight, I'd really laugh at them.

[Persephone]

cmessaz wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

So CDPR made fun of TW2 (DAII you mean?) then a guy on metacrtic who works for Bioware gave TW2 a 0 score.

Yeah.

Eh?

Proof?

Bioware_Intern, DavidGaider and Mike_Faillaw2 on Metacritic gave it a 0. It's totally legit.

Ah, I see. Of course, that is ENTIRELY legit.

Couldn't' possibly be because they didn't like the game?

Well, TW2 did not deserve a 0. Neither did DAII.

Also, those "Bioware" 0s only resulted in a FLOOD of 10s for TW2 and an outraged FLOOD of 0s for DAII. Which was the desired result, I am sure.

[Costin_Razvan]

Persephone: There was this guy M_Stannard who gave it a zero as one of the first few scores ( I know that since I was keeping an eye on metacritic then ) The review however got deleted, though it was my bad that I confused him for Avanost ( who is an actually Bioware employee who gave DA 2 a 10/10 score ),.

I would also cut the bull**** with that CDPR is trying to incite fan hatred against BIoware or something to get better reviews for their games...it's not like Bioware doesn't buy off reviewing sites to give them perfect scores ( G4TV marketing intereviews before ME2 came out, Escapist DA2 promotion campaign before game came out ).

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 18 juin 2011 - 06:24 .

[cmessaz]

Persephone wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

So CDPR made fun of TW2 (DAII you mean?) then a guy on metacrtic who works for Bioware gave TW2 a 0 score.

Yeah.

Eh?

Proof?

Bioware_Intern, DavidGaider and Mike_Faillaw2 on Metacritic gave it a 0. It's totally legit.

Ah, I see. Of course, that is ENTIRELY legit.

Couldn't' possibly be because they didn't like the game?

Well, TW2 did not deserve a 0. Neither did DAII.

Also, those "Bioware" 0s only resulted in a FLOOD of 10s for TW2 and an outraged FLOOD of 0s for DAII. Which was the desired result, I am sure.

Oh I know, I can't judge the second because I haven't played it. Just messing around

[Persephone]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Persephone wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Aaleel wrote...
I can only speak for myself, and I wouldn't be upset, like I said if it's funny it's funny.  I doubt there'd be outrage though, but rather something more along the lines of "they're just mad because TW2 was everything DA2 should have been" types of posts.   

Depending on how they poke fun, I might be one of them.

If for instance Bioware wants to make fun of The Witcher by claiming that they don't do, say, political plots well (as in implying that they do). I'd laugh my ass off....at Bioware.

You really can't give Bioware ANY credit these days, eh?

How did my post imply that exactly?

If Bioware wants to poke fun at TW (which I wouldn't mind at all), they better do so in things that they do well. Like romance, or companion interaction. Or tutorials.

But if thery honestly want to claim that they make better political plots for example (I'd say plots in general personally), or say that their choices have more weight, I'd really laugh at them.

What I meant is that Bioware wouldn't mock a feature which is among the best features TW2 has to offer.

All I am saying. (Not that TW2 hasn't got any features that may be mocked)

[Persephone]

cmessaz wrote...

Persephone wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

So CDPR made fun of TW2 (DAII you mean?) then a guy on metacrtic who works for Bioware gave TW2 a 0 score.

Yeah.

Eh?

Proof?

Bioware_Intern, DavidGaider and Mike_Faillaw2 on Metacritic gave it a 0. It's totally legit.

Ah, I see. Of course, that is ENTIRELY legit.

Couldn't' possibly be because they didn't like the game?

Well, TW2 did not deserve a 0. Neither did DAII.

Also, those "Bioware" 0s only resulted in a FLOOD of 10s for TW2 and an outraged FLOOD of 0s for DAII. Which was the desired result, I am sure.

Oh I know, I can't judge the second because I haven't played it. Just messing around

Oh I know. You must love TW2 is a set in stone rule, just like You must despise DAII. :devil:

[KnightofPhoenix]

Persephone wrote...
What I meant is that Bioware wouldn't mock a feature which is among the best features TW2 has to offer.

All I am saying. (Not that TW2 hasn't got any features that may be mocked)

You'd be surprised, but I didnt' say they would for sure. I certainly hope not.

[Herr Uhl]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

If Bioware wants to poke fun at TW (which I wouldn't mind at all), they better do so in things that they do well. Like romance, or companion interaction. Or tutorials.

But if thery honestly want to claim that they make better political plots for example (I'd say plots in general personally), or say that their choices have more weight, I'd really laugh at them.

I'd add combat to that list. Even though DA2 combat became a bit over the top and had the blasted waves, I still enjoy it. TW2 combat (even more so than the TW1) feels like busywork you need to do in order to advance the plot.

But I'm sure other opinions differ.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 18 juin 2011 - 06:29 .

[Gunderic]

Persephone wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Aaleel wrote...
I can only speak for myself, and I wouldn't be upset, like I said if it's funny it's funny.  I doubt there'd be outrage though, but rather something more along the lines of "they're just mad because TW2 was everything DA2 should have been" types of posts.   

Depending on how they poke fun, I might be one of them.

If for instance Bioware wants to make fun of The Witcher by claiming that they don't do, say, political plots well (as in implying that they do). I'd laugh my ass off....at Bioware.

You really can't give Bioware ANY credit these days, eh?

Why should he? We already have:
images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2011/03/the-witcher-2-assassin-of-kings-preview/witcher2-screenshots-3.jpg


Edit: Weird. Linking images directly doesn't work anymore?

Modifié par Gunderic, 18 juin 2011 - 06:30 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Herr Uhl wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

If Bioware wants to poke fun at TW (which I wouldn't mind at all), they better do so in things that they do well. Like romance, or companion interaction. Or tutorials.

But if thery honestly want to claim that they make better political plots for example (I'd say plots in general personally), or say that their choices have more weight, I'd really laugh at them.

I'd add combat to that list. Even though DA2 combat became a bit over the top and had the blasted waves, I still enjoy it. TW2 combat (even more so than the TW1) feels like busywork you need to do in order to proceed the plot.

But I'm sure other opinions differ.

Complete opposite opinion here. Complete opposite.

But if they want to poke fun at it and are funny in the process, I wouldn't mind.

[Costin_Razvan]

I'd add combat to that list. Even though DA2 combat became a bit over the top and had the blasted waves, I still enjoy it. TW2 combat (even more so than the TW1) feels like busywork you need to do in order to proceed the plot.

But I'm sure other opinions differ.

Hmm to me DA:O felt like a filler between story segments. DA2 combat was fun and TW 2 combat was epic for me ( due to the challenge ).

[Persephone]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I'd add combat to that list. Even though DA2 combat became a bit over the top and had the blasted waves, I still enjoy it. TW2 combat (even more so than the TW1) feels like busywork you need to do in order to proceed the plot.

But I'm sure other opinions differ.

Hmm to me DA:O felt like a filler between story segments. DA2 combat was fun and TW 2 combat was epic for me ( due to the challenge ).

This I agree with. Once I got the gist of TW2 combat, I was having a blast. And TW2's Kayran battle was the first boss battle in YEARS that gave me utter satisfaction at having accomplished something. Never mind feeling like I bloody earned that trophy & armor.

[Babli]

Dragon age 2... innovative...



Wider audience, right direction for franchise...what a sellout.

[RangerSG]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I'd add combat to that list. Even though DA2 combat became a bit over the top and had the blasted waves, I still enjoy it. TW2 combat (even more so than the TW1) feels like busywork you need to do in order to proceed the plot.

But I'm sure other opinions differ.

Hmm to me DA:O felt like a filler between story segments. DA2 combat was fun and TW 2 combat was epic for me ( due to the challenge ).

The Witcher's combat is far too twitchy for my liking.

[Thor Rand Al]

[quote]Xewaka wrote...I'm going to guess you have never played a game with dialogue selection before, period. However, I did, so I am perfectly aware of how the paraphrases (which are the real issue) hide information that was previously available to the player, thus removing the chance of the player to control his character. When my character surprises me, it is no longer my character. I can be plenty surprised and excited by plot developments: I like a good story. But if I'm asked to roleplay a character (that's the RP part of RPG), and then the tools to properly do so are removed, the game is doing its job wrong.[quote]



Please don't assume or guess what I have or haven't played which you probably would be wrong on. The fact is I prefer the wheel because of the simple fact of not knowing what comes out of the characters mouth. I love the fact of it being a surprise. Another game game out and I won't mention names cause this IS a DRAGON AGE thread that had the wheel and when the words F U came out of someone's mouth I about died from shock at first then I busted out laughing because I was not expecting that. I find that exciting, not knowin is one of the fun things about game's. I actually prefer the fact that it's not all black and white and spelled out word for word right in front of you, surprises are nice, adds color to a game. Life is unpredictable, I love that some of these games are too, more adventure, more entertaining.

Modifié par Thor Rand Al, 18 juin 2011 - 06:43 .

[cmessaz]

Babli wrote...

Dragon age 2... innovative...

*removes ridiculous picture*

Wider audience, right direction for franchise...what a sellout.

In your opinion.

[Bejos_]

cmessaz wrote...

Bejos_ wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Fine you like TW better than DA2...I really don't care. But...I disagree. However I don't troll their forums (if they have a social network)

I would, but I can't stand all the bad English.
Also, liking TW more than one likes DA is not a valid reason to not visit BSN.
Again with the chasing away.

Must I leave because I like TW2 more than DA2?

Let's keep OT. This is about DA2.

Yes...because I CLEARLY said leave BSN. <.<

But people can't say their piece then...you know...move on? I can't even get info on the new book, etc without the crap.  And who is being chased off? ME! I have been avoiding the general discussion forums for months because of it, and guess what?! So have many others. So I think it's the opposite really. Good grief...the patch thread.(before it's release) They are keeping us updated on the progress. And even there "well you are taking too long TW2 is better". My profile isn't even safe! I mean...when is it enough? 

Edit: Maybe I'm not expressing what I mean clearly. I have no issue with constructive critisizm. But to act as though they "owe you" or..."failed to produce a good game" based on your opinion, or to knock people who disagree, is what I have issue with. And no one can deny this happens.

Bwahahaha. I quoted the wrong thing ;D

I think we're both fed up at the extremes ...

[Babli]

cmessaz wrote...

Babli wrote...

Dragon age 2... innovative...

*removes ridiculous picture*

Wider audience, right direction for franchise...what a sellout.

In your opinion.

I didnt say its a fact. Some people like reused maps, dead cities and all in all rushed, incomplete games.

[Persephone]

cmessaz wrote...

Babli wrote...

Dragon age 2... innovative...

*removes ridiculous picture*

Wider audience, right direction for franchise...what a sellout.

In your opinion.

Never mind that it's easy to tear a few words out of their bloody context and conveniently forget about the rest.

[Persephone]

Babli wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Babli wrote...

Dragon age 2... innovative...

*removes ridiculous picture*

Wider audience, right direction for franchise...what a sellout.

In your opinion.

I didnt say its a fact. Some people like reused maps, dead cities and all in all rushed, incomplete games.

And some people like making ridiculous, baseless assumptions. ^

Your point being?

[cmessaz]

Babli wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Babli wrote...

Dragon age 2... innovative...

*removes ridiculous picture*

Wider audience, right direction for franchise...what a sellout.

In your opinion.

I didnt say its a fact. Some people like reused maps, dead cities and all in all rushed, incomplete games.

And some people accept that the game has flaws, but enjoy it nonetheless.

[cmessaz]

Bejos_ wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Bejos_ wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Fine you like TW better than DA2...I really don't care. But...I disagree. However I don't troll their forums (if they have a social network)

I would, but I can't stand all the bad English.
Also, liking TW more than one likes DA is not a valid reason to not visit BSN.
Again with the chasing away.

Must I leave because I like TW2 more than DA2?

Let's keep OT. This is about DA2.

Yes...because I CLEARLY said leave BSN. <.<

But people can't say their piece then...you know...move on? I can't even get info on the new book, etc without the crap.  And who is being chased off? ME! I have been avoiding the general discussion forums for months because of it, and guess what?! So have many others. So I think it's the opposite really. Good grief...the patch thread.(before it's release) They are keeping us updated on the progress. And even there "well you are taking too long TW2 is better". My profile isn't even safe! I mean...when is it enough? 

Edit: Maybe I'm not expressing what I mean clearly. I have no issue with constructive critisizm. But to act as though they "owe you" or..."failed to produce a good game" based on your opinion, or to knock people who disagree, is what I have issue with. And no one can deny this happens.

Bwahahaha. I quoted the wrong thing ;D

I think we're both fed up at the extremes ...

That I am.

[Herr Uhl]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I'd add combat to that list. Even though DA2 combat became a bit over the top and had the blasted waves, I still enjoy it. TW2 combat (even more so than the TW1) feels like busywork you need to do in order to proceed the plot.

But I'm sure other opinions differ.

Hmm to me DA:O felt like a filler between story segments. DA2 combat was fun and TW 2 combat was epic for me ( due to the challenge ).

To much mashing the mouse for my tastes. And the camera never completely agrees with me.

Persephone wrote...

This I agree with. Once I got the gist of TW2 combat, I was having a blast. And TW2's Kayran battle was the first boss battle in YEARS that gave me utter satisfaction at having accomplished something. Never mind feeling like I bloody earned that trophy & armor.

I had a grudgematch with that battle due to that I couldn't run up that column. My game apparently decided that there was one path that was one foot wide that you could actually use, at a snails pace. Took me 20 minutes before I actually got up. I don't know if this was for me only, or if it was a feature.

Anyways, a bit too offtopic.

[Persephone]

cmessaz wrote...

Babli wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Babli wrote...

Dragon age 2... innovative...

*removes ridiculous picture*

Wider audience, right direction for franchise...what a sellout.

In your opinion.

I didnt say its a fact. Some people like reused maps, dead cities and all in all rushed, incomplete games.

And some people accept that the game has flaws, but enjoy it nonetheless.

And I have yet to see anyone not agreeing that the recycled maps were a distinctly bad idea.

People obviously love dead cities, just look at Denerim. Loved it so much in fact they made MODS to make it look somewhat alive!