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DA:O's DLC, WoW, and the Cleveland Browns... How they relate and are they Worth It?


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#76
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Monstruo696 wrote...

SheffSteel wrote...



Also, comparing dollars per hour of the full game and the expansion is fallacious. No consumer has a choice between buying DLC and buying the full game. The comparison is simply not valid. Even if it were, content cannot be reduced to an "hours playtime value".


What shall I compare it to?  The amount of voice acting?  The amount of recycled items (Read: Cailan's Armor/Sword)?

Hell, at least Fallout 3's DLC made me feel like I wasn't in Kansas any more.  What can I expect out of RtO?  Some voice acting and waddling through some swamp that's infested with rotting corpses and Darkspawn to get an Armor and Sword set that is already in the game? 

I don't mind them charging for DLC or doling out short DLC, what pisses me off is the pricing.  I expect if this keeps up, they'll end up charging us +$20 for a single new Origin.


+1

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SamoanX wrote...

WoW sucks penis and so does your oppinion


Responses like these are almost as entertaining as watching monkeys play with tools.

And no one outside of medical professionals or "mohels", use the word "penis" anymore.

Forgive me if I logically assume you don't work in a medical profession or perform circumcisions.

Modifié par HoratioSanz, 20 novembre 2009 - 08:10 .


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HoratioSanz wrote...

SamoanX wrote...

WoW sucks penis and so does your oppinion


Responses like these are almost as entertaining as watching monkeys play with tools.

And no one outside of the medical profession and "mohels", use the word "penis" anymore.


WoW sucks cack brah

Modifié par Crawling_Chaos, 20 novembre 2009 - 08:10 .


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HoratioSanz wrote...

SamoanX wrote...

WoW sucks penis and so does your oppinion


Responses like these are almost as entertaining as watching monkeys play with tools.

And no one outside of the medical profession and "mohels", use the word "penis" anymore.


Why not?  Penis is a fine word!  You never played the Penis Game in high school, where two people would alternately say "penis" louder and louder until one of them was too scared to continue?  Come on!  That was only like, 5 years ago!  :)

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Crawling_Chaos wrote...

HoratioSanz wrote...

SamoanX wrote...

WoW sucks penis and so does your oppinion


Responses like these are almost as entertaining as watching monkeys play with tools.

And no one outside of the medical profession and "mohels", use the word "penis" anymore.


WoW sucks cack brah


Lovely... Another genius who just skims the thread's title and infers whatever the hell he wants.

Try reading before you post...

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You people need to get off the internet until you can tell that you're getting trolled.

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SkippyMcGee88 wrote...

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

HoratioSanz wrote...

SamoanX wrote...
WoW sucks penis and so does your oppinion

Responses like these are almost as entertaining as watching monkeys play with tools.
And no one outside of the medical profession and "mohels", use the word "penis" anymore.

WoW sucks cack brah

Lovely... Another genius who just skims the thread's title and infers whatever the hell he wants.
Try reading before you post...


How about you read my posts?

Modifié par Crawling_Chaos, 20 novembre 2009 - 08:17 .


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Crawling_Chaos wrote...

WoW sucks cack brah


Crawling_Chaos, from what I've seen on the forums you are an intelligent person and I have seen some thoughful responses from you on the boards.

I am surprised and slightly disappointed when I see you post responses like this, simply, because I know you could add more to the community and the majority of discussions if you wished.

You're not a dumb guy, don't post like one.

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Intelligent debate has left the building

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Seifz wrote...

HoratioSanz wrote...

SamoanX wrote...

WoW sucks penis and so does your oppinion


Responses like these are almost as entertaining as watching monkeys play with tools.

And no one outside of the medical profession and "mohels", use the word "penis" anymore.


Why not?  Penis is a fine word!  You never played the Penis Game in high school, where two people would alternately say "penis" louder and louder until one of them was too scared to continue?  Come on!  That was only like, 5 years ago!  :)


I almost spit out my coffee when I read that.

Because when you said the "Penis Game" for some reason the first thing that came to my mind was you were talking about "Swords", I won't explain what that is, thankfully I continued to read the entire post(unlike some others on this thread).

But ya I do remember that game, but that was like middle school, so roughly 9-10 years ago.

And no, I won't explain what "swords" is.

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Dnarris wrote...

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

WoW sucks cack brah


Crawling_Chaos, from what I've seen on the forums you are an intelligent person and I have seen some thoughful responses from you on the boards.

I am surprised and slightly disappointed when I see you post responses like this, simply, because I know you could add more to the community and the majority of discussions if you wished.

You're not a dumb guy, don't post like one.


Did you, by chance, read the quotes in his post?  Because actually, his response was fairly amusing.  :)

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Dnarris wrote...
Crawling_Chaos, from what I've seen on the forums you are an intelligent person and I have seen some thoughful responses from you on the boards.

I am surprised and slightly disappointed when I see you post responses like this, simply, because I know you could add more to the community and the majority of discussions if you wished.

You're not a dumb guy, don't post like one.


I was giving an example of the "correct" way to say "penis."

Sorry if I offended anybody.

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HoratioSanz wrote...

Seifz wrote...

HoratioSanz wrote...

SamoanX wrote...

WoW sucks penis and so does your oppinion


Responses like these are almost as entertaining as watching monkeys play with tools.

And no one outside of the medical profession and "mohels", use the word "penis" anymore.


Why not?  Penis is a fine word!  You never played the Penis Game in high school, where two people would alternately say "penis" louder and louder until one of them was too scared to continue?  Come on!  That was only like, 5 years ago!  :)


I almost spit out my coffee when I read that.

Because when you said the "Penis Game" for some reason the first thing that came to my mind was you were talking about "Swords", I won't explain what that is, thankfully I continued to read the entire post(unlike some others on this thread).

But ya I do remember that game, but that was like middle school, so roughly 9-10 years ago.

And no, I won't explain what "swords" is.


No worries, I know what you're talking about.  I'm just glad that I'm not the only one who played the Penis Game when I was younger.  :)

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HoratioSanz wrote...
I almost spit out my coffee when I read that.
Because when you said the "Penis Game" for some reason the first thing that came to my mind was you were talking about "Swords", I won't explain what that is, thankfully I continued to read the entire post(unlike some others on this thread)
But ya I do remember that game, but that was like middle school, so roughly 9-10 years ago.
And no, I won't explain what "swords" is.


Just the word "swords" is enough to fuel plenty of vivid imagery.  Thanks for that, really.

Modifié par Crawling_Chaos, 20 novembre 2009 - 08:33 .


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SkippyMcGee88 wrote...
From your last line I'm going to assume you didn't read my original post, nor grasped what I was even saying...


This is like the encyclopedia of how to wage an argument on the internet.  Cliche #1, claim anyone who disagrees with you is wrong. Cliche #2, any point you can't answer, respond with 'read my post'.

If i hadn't read your post I wouldn't have actually been able to structure a response, by definition. Kindly stop resorting to tired old cliches and either answer the point I put before you or don't bother posting.

I only implied to one specific person that maybe he shouldn't be in control of his own finances, and it was more a joke than anything else.


Ironically, I wasn't even talking about this. My point that you appear to believe that people are not qulaified to judge what to buy stems from the fact that you're raving and screaming about getting ripped off about something that is ultimately up to the customer on whether to purchase costs cash. If you don't want it, don't buy it, and be done with it. Going on and on about sports teams and scams and all the rest of these straws just makes it look like you're not satisfied that you may choose to not to purchase, you seem to demand everyone else follow suit.

I mean, what business of it is yours what I do with my cash?

I've told 2 seperate people they have made valid points, and I have stated my own reasoning...


You say this as if you're holding a get-out-of-jail free card. Going back to your point about reading posts, do you recall me mentioning these other gentlemen, regarding your point? No? That's because they have nothing to do with your actual post which I was answering. You know, the one I quoted. It seems I read your post better than you did.

But my original post was not telling people how to spend their money... If that's what you or others took out of that post, then I don't know what to say to you.


That much is clear.

But I'm going to have to assume you take anyone disagreeing with somethign you want to love(Bioware, the DLC, puppies) as insulting you personally, if that is the case then we're on totally different wavelengths.


You're right, we are on totally different wavelengths. Somehow you've managed to take my point that complaining about something that you are under no obligation to buy is on par with trying to fry eggs on a block of ice in terms of pointlessness as some sort of hysterical defence of bioware - straight after I pointed out that I'll only buy these things if *I* see fit, irrespective of supporting bioware, nonetheless.


HoratioSanz wrote...

]Will you people stop comparing FOOD to the price of DLC.

That's just wrong on so many levels.

You're comparing somethign that sustains your VERY LIFE... To a video game.

Justifying something you HAVE TO HAVE TO LIVE.

To somethign that adds 30mns of E-pleasure(in my case, was more a E-Letdown).

That's
the 6th person in 3 different threads I've read comparing food too the
DLC, it's quite disturbing, and doesn't say much for mankind in general
anymore.

I've even seen the comparison: "Oh I can just not eat lunch one day and buy WK".

REALLY???

Maybe DLC costing money isn't this game's fanbases' biggest problem.


Oh good lord, put the righteousness away. If you're honestly claiming that you need subway sandwiches to survive then you have my sympathy, but not my agreement. I'm a fan of Italian BMTs as much as the next guy, but trying to convert the point into some sort of epic attack on the youth of today needs to be in a blog about the ills of the world, not here.

The meaning of the point is clear. £5 is not such a massive expenditure that to charge such represents a grave threat to my human rights or whatever. The point is it's the kind of change I'd blow on something given 5 minutes thought.

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Hey, Crawling_Chaos, how about you tone down the inappropriate language?

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SheffSteel wrote...

Intelligent debate has left the building


Sadly was bound to happen...

When a topic turns to "swords" all intelligent debate is dead...

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Yeah? What is wrong with making stuff that appeals to fan boys? We love Bioware and their games and will buy their stuff. If you are not a fan boy you are not the intended audience so don't get all bent out of shape about it. Just don't get it.



I would never buy DLC from another company but from Bioware I will. If that upsets you well...I can only say it must be nice to have enough time and energy to be outraged by something as trivial as that.

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I'm always taken out of context, so misunderstood!

/cry :crying:

But of course, Mr. Woo, I wasn't planning on going any further than that.

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Valmy wrote...

Yeah? What is wrong with making stuff that appeals to fan boys? We love Bioware and their games and will buy their stuff. If you are not a fan boy you are not the intended audience so don't get all bent out of shape about it. Just don't get it.

I would never buy DLC from another company but from Bioware I will. If that upsets you well...I can only say it must be nice to have enough time and energy to be outraged by something as trivial as that.



I wouldn't feel so self-entitled to think that Bioware was making DLC just for you(the intended fanboy). You're
living some sort of e-relationship there, that doesn't exist. They're making the game for profits not to appease their loyalists. I mean you do see that giant red EA logo coming off the dragon on the opening intro don't you...

Saying your 5, 7, 15 bucks is keeping them going, is like the other person telling me my 5, 7, 15 means nothing to them...

I'm happy you want to support Bioware, there is nothing wrong with that. That in itself is fine by me, like I stated in the OP. I do the same with the Browns.

And I never said I was outraged... Hard to be outraged when this has become the "norm". Although "trivial" to one person, can be alot more "problematic" to another.

Anyhoo, my shifts over, as much as I love debating this stuff, even I got better things to do when I'm not supposed to be working... Like watch the Cavs try not to suck 2 games in a row.

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Whether people compare the price to items of food is kind of irrelevant. The point, I think, is that psychologically the price point is low enough that people will see it as an unimportant expenditure level, and quite appropriate for an impulse purchase. Whether lattes and fast food meals are good or bad examples of impulse purchases is really irrelevant. I mean, who thinks a ringtone is actually worth $1.99? Is a lottery ticket worth a single dollar... when the statistics tell you that on average it will win you 90 cents?

People decide to buy such things anyway, sometimes for good reasons (it is fun and I can afford it), sometimes for misguided reasons (I want to support my state's schools) and sometimes for bad ones (one day this will pay off and we can move out of this trailer). The reasons for people not making such purchases can be equally good, bad or ugly. Image IPB

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Appeasing the loyalists? What on earth do you think is going on here? Here I was thinking this was just a matter of you pays your money and you takes your choice.

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SheffSteel wrote...

Whether people compare the price to items of food is kind of irrelevant. The point, I think, is that psychologically the price point is low enough that people will see it as an unimportant expenditure level, and quite appropriate for an impulse purchase. Whether lattes and fast food meals are good or bad examples of impulse purchases is really irrelevant. I mean, who thinks a ringtone is actually worth $1.99? Is a lottery ticket worth a single dollar... when the statistics tell you that on average it will win you 90 cents?


Perfectly put. Well, almost perfect, as you've invariably insulted the unfortunate individual who apparently requires subway sandwiches for his survival :P

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JaegerBane wrote...

Appeasing the loyalists? What on earth do you think is going on here? Here I was thinking this was just a matter of you pays your money and you takes your choice.


I'm not very bright, but even I could see he was being sarcastic.

SkippyMcGee88 wrote...

Anyhoo, my shifts over, as much as
I love debating this stuff, even I got better things to do when I'm not supposed to be working... Like watch the Cavs try not to suck 2 games in a row.


The Cavs suck too, and Lebron is going to New York.

Sorry I had to do that.

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HoratioSanz wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

Appeasing the loyalists? What on earth do you think is going on here? Here I was thinking this was just a matter of you pays your money and you takes your choice.


I'm not very bright, but even I could see he was being sarcastic.


But you couldn't see I was, too? B)