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We know the outcome of the Shadow Broker will have at least a little impact.

Overlord: You choose to take David or leave him to continue the whole control the Geth experiments. So if he stays and Cerberus is now indoctrinated then will Cerberus  have some Geth commandos, I was thinking maybe this was the reason for the Geth in the demos. If you take David then Cerberus won't have the Geth advantage in ME3, this is assuming Overlord will have an impact at all.

Now Kasumi, that could be anything since we don't know what the information was just that it could implicate the Alliance in something. So if you let Kasumi keep the info maybe the Alliance will take some kind of hit.

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Absolutely not. They were there to add new gameplay experiences to Mass 2. David will have no effect on Mass 3, Kasumi, if she survived, will be restricted to a cameo/temporary squadmate.

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I hope Overlord does. That was one of the best damn missions IMHO and I'd like to see how far we can go. A completely broken David if you chose to give him to Cerberus; an almost completely mute David if he goes to the Alliance. Or a hostile, ruthless, but amazing ally for renegades, and a hesitant, uncertain escort situation for a paragon Shepard.

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It wouldn't matter if Kasumi survives I'm only refering to whatever info is in the Greybox. Whatever it was it was obviously important.

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I don't think they'll be major impact, but it would be nice for a few of the smaller
missions and stories to have a little callback, it'll be a nice touch, even little things
like the information from the Cerberus agent that you had a choice to send to
Cerberus/alliance or keep.
Kasumis greybox info would also make a potentially great little sidestory,
I wouldn't be gutted if a few of these smaller plots didn't have some kind of
callback, but I'd be well chuffed if they did, unless there's so much going
on storywise in ME3 that they just can't implement it, it would be a missed
opportunity for them not to.

Modifié par Pedestrial, 17 juin 2011 - 08:37 .


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I wondered this too! I hope Kasumi's grey box will have an impact on the game (if you have kasumi dlc anyway).

It would be interesting what the information would be and how it could affect the alliance.

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I doubt it the DLC stuff might get a mention here or there but will probably have little to no effect on ME3.

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I think its very possible for a impact on ME3. Maybe not massive because Bioware doesn't want to punish people for not getting DLC but it could possibly help or hinder your overall goal or (in the case of Kasumi and Zaeed) affect your characters in some way. A example is how I don't have Zaeed's loyalty but he's not dead. Maybe he might try to stab me in the back later. I told Kasumi to get rid of the greybox so maybe she wont have any obsession with the info on it. Also the info wont fall into the wrong hands.

These are just ideas but its possible.

Modifié par Tall Boss, 17 juin 2011 - 08:47 .


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Tall Boss wrote...

I think its very possible for a impact on ME3. Maybe not massive because Bioware doesn't want to punish people for not getting DLC but it could possibly help or hinder your overall goal or (in the case of Kasumi and Zaeed) affect your characters in some way. A example is how I don't have Zaeed's loyalty but he's not dead. Maybe he might try to stab me in the back later. I told Kasumi to get rid of the greybox so maybe she wont have any obsession with the info on it. Also the info wont fall into the wrong hands.

These are just ideas but its possible.


I'm intrigued as to how they'll handle not having done their loyalty missions? Namely because my worse playthrough has Kasumi and Zaeed as the only squad survivors and I did neither of their loyalty missions :lol: also in that playthrough I didn't do Overlord either... will David/AI have got off Aite? :o

Doubtful for the latter, but it'll be interesting to see how it is handled for those that don't do it seeing as BDtS is mentioned no matter what in ME2.

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Maybe we'll find out in an email.

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Vault08 wrote...

Absolutely not. They were there to add new gameplay experiences to Mass 2. David will have no effect on Mass 3, Kasumi, if she survived, will be restricted to a cameo/temporary squadmate.


Sorry, but almost everything Bioware have said so far leads us to believe that it /will/ impact on the story. They've said that minor decisions we've made from ME1 will ripple throughout the universe all the way to part 3. These are not minor decisions, so I think it's very safe to assume the impact will be felt.

I'm not saying it's going to stear the story, but I can guarantee it will be more than simply a passing mention. Bioware are too invested in their universe for it not to, imo.

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Rath_01 wrote...

I doubt it the DLC stuff might get a mention here or there but will probably have little to no effect on ME3.


I wouldn't be so sure of that.  ME3 will assume that you played Arrival and LotSB whether you actually did or not.

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 DLC can't be major plot because not all players access it.

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If Bioware stays true to form-You will get a two or three sentence in game email about them. And that will be the extent of their "impact".

Here's hoping though.

Modifié par streamlock, 23 juin 2011 - 09:22 .


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jamesp81 wrote...

Rath_01 wrote...

I doubt it the DLC stuff might get a mention here or there but will probably have little to no effect on ME3.


I wouldn't be so sure of that.  ME3 will assume that you played Arrival and LotSB whether you actually did or not.


The only one they've confirmed as Shepard having done it is Arrival, with regards LotSB, I believe they've stated that Liara will have become Shadowbroker but it will have been handled differently.

My guess on that is, no Shepard handing data over, Vasir isn't tipped off of Liara closing in and thus never goes to kill her, or at least doens't get to kill the contact due to not having Shepard help her find out about the meeting. Liara then somehow manages to find some other stealthy ship that allows her to get to the SB base and kills the SB solo or with a group of mercs.

As for Kasumi, I've been pondering today on whether the data Keiji has is information about the Deep Cover Op Kenson was on. That'd tie in with the whole Alliance could be in trouble thing.

With regards Overlord, that could potentially have an effect with regards Cerberus possibly being able to control some Geth in ME3 if left David with Archer. I actually wouldn't be surprised if we go to the Grissom Academy in ME3, it's been in the books and now has been mentioned in Overlord so it'd be interesting if we got to go there.

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I think I remember reading somewhere that the people who didn't grab the DLC get something similar to the Genisis comic to make the decisions when ME3 comes along.

Also, I'm betting Overlord will have an impact, seeing that there were some geth with a Cerberus paintjob in a gameplay demo.

..Now that I think about it a bit longer, those who decided to sell Legion to Cerberus and allowed David to stay with the project means that all geth become the 'heretic' geth and thus the 'religious protocalls' or whatever they were actually termed could be more easily exploited.

....And... That's rather frightening, now that I think about it.

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Vault08 wrote...

Absolutely not. They were there to add new gameplay experiences to Mass 2. David will have no effect on Mass 3, Kasumi, if she survived, will be restricted to a cameo/temporary squadmate.


not true...before overlord came out bioware said that overlord will play into the grand scheme of the main story. for that matter so is all other major DLC's.

Modifié par KevShep, 24 juin 2011 - 07:18 .


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macrocarl wrote...

Maybe we'll find out in an email.


For serious. I wish they would have vid-mails instead of just completely impersonal text emails. Or at least voice messages or something.

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McAwesum wrote...
For serious. I wish they would have vid-mails instead of just completely impersonal text emails. Or at least voice messages or something.

Sadly, VA's are expensive.

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 For these questions, I played through ME2 multiple times to see what effect they may have in ME3. The Overlord DLC does pique my interest a little more though. I turned David over to the Alliance and maybe he'll be of help with communicating to the Geth but then if Legion makes a return, he'll more than likely support me which would make saving David an act of goodwill. On the other playthrough I let David stay. That may playout better if Cerberus uses David to convince the Geth to kill me. I really don't know what to expect from that though.

With Kasumi, I let her keep the greybox simply because Keiji told her that she'll never be safe so I suggested she keep it. Now if the Alliance comes after her, I wouldn't mind killing a few for Kasumi but just how deep will that go. I figure I'm already on unstable ground with them anyway so whatever. Letting her destroy it, to me it ends any future of a sidequest concerning the greybox in ME3. 

So even though I have multiple scenarios concerning both DLC, I believe that the Renegade choices may open up a better mission concerning them. I think that my Paragon choices will take away the possibility of anything happening since it felt like both issues were resolved in ME2. But, who knows?

Modifié par shadowreflexion, 25 juin 2011 - 06:29 .


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I'd say it will either be a small mention of it via email, a side quest will deal with the contents of the graybox, or it will end up never being addressed.

Unfortunately, I think the last one is the most likely.

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Well I really hope that Overload would have some impact. It had greatest potential to make difference in ME3 happenings. It would be nothing major, but it could easily make new side quest.

And about Kasumi, I'll be just happy if her character will return in temporary squadmate.

Though sadly I found it unlikely that any of the DLC would have much impact in ME3.

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I would imagine that BioWare will choose a canon decision for Overlord, and that'll be what you deal with. Shadow Broker happened without Shepards involvement, so Liara will fill you in and then carry on as normal (I.e. Had done the DLC). Arrival is assumed to have happened. I think Zaeed and Kasumi will have happened, without Shepards involvement, and when the repercussions crop up it'll be different dialogue as they've never met before.

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I don't expect such a big deal but some kind of cameo would be much appreciated. For istance if they solve that with an email that will make me really sad...

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After such a msg from BW that decisions count, I expect both to have some impact, hence, I always have David taken away and Katsumi keep the greybox. From ME1, I made sure to get the trinket and visit Eletania to get that historical playback from the Prothean orb. The second Prothean orb in Shep's cabin, well, I regard that most suspiciously, especially after the revelation that the SB was very keen in Prothean artifacts/ info, etc. What's in it?? What part would the contents play?

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 26 juin 2011 - 10:18 .