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King Cousland

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First of all, let me start off by saying that I know the developers likely want to continue Hawke's story, or give us a third protagonist, but I feel (as no doubt many others do) that bringing back the Warden would benefit Bioware as much as it would please us sqealing fans. The primary reason for this is due to the Warden being immensley popular, so, if Dragon Age III was marketed as thier return, imagine the big bucks it'd draw in, as well as delighting the somewhat torn fanbase. Both the Warden and Hawke seemed to be tied to a single fate, so please bring the Warden back as a NPC at least.

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And there are people, like me who would rather not revisit the warden and get a new protagonist (as I'm sure there are people who would rather play as Hawke again and no-one else). Now what ? Who does Bioware listen to ?

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I don't see the point in bringing back the warden. Also I would rather not be stuck playing a silent character. It was fine in the past but I like having the main character have a voice it makes the story more fun to watch

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There's no reason the Warden couldn't be voiced, and Witch Hunt was too much of a cliffhanger for their story to be done. Plus, with the ending of DA II, it pretty much confirms that Bioware aren't competely finished with the Warden.

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I developed a pretty large attachment (waaahh haaay!) to two of my wardens. Hope its not its not the end, felt their characters and slightly varying outcomes were excellent - and would love to see them carry on in some form in another game.

But its no biggie. I could deal with a new avatar - don't think I'd want to carry on Hawke though. Never really got attached to him.

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I want closure for Hawke, but i don't want to play as them again.

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I also dont see the point of bringing back the warden. This game isnt called Blight Effect or something.
I find it hard to imagine a Blight-related reason to keep bringing up the Grey Warden order in so many installments, especially as a main/central role. Thedas is so big and with so many other perspectives.

Edit; I dont mind having closure, but as I can imagine everyone (in their mind) has their own ending to the Warden's story. And Bioware leaving it up in the open helps with that rather than forcing an ending on an individual that can be so many things:D

Modifié par EgoSoul, 18 juin 2011 - 12:05 .


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Why wouldn't you want the Warden back? They weren't your average Warden, and took a much greater political role than most in the order. Hawke helped to destroy the world (unwittingly), the Warden saved it.

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Probably has to do with all the "variables". the warden had so many different background choices and origin stories which -when coupled with the variables from all the quests from DAO- would make it pretty difficult to import.

that's just my opinion though but I would love to have the warden back...and alistair and dog XD

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No thanks.

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My (canon) Warden is dead. I'm hoping for a new protagonist in DA3, but given the choice, I'd rather someone cast a Reanimate Dead spell on the warden so I can play as his corpse than play as Hawke for DA3. Hawke was fine for me as a character, but not as a protagonist.

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No, the Warden's story is done let him/her rest in peace. I do hope to see more Hawke though.

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For what it's worth, I'd prefer for the Warden to return as the protagonist in a future title. I sincerely doubt that a new protagonist in every game is going to work in an IP that focuses primarily on the narrative (Dragon Age) as well as it works in an IP that focuses primarily on gameplay (Elder Scrolls). For example, DA:O ended with what seemed like a solid sequel hook: sentient darkspawn, Morrigan's mysterious plans (with or without OGB), Flemeth's plans and true nature, the fate of Ferelden post-blight (Orlesian aggression?), and so on. DA II ignored all of that for two acts of sidequests and a really contrived mage/templar conflict in the third act.

Then again, if DA II is indicative of the quality of future titles in the series, I won't really care what happens.

Only my opinion, of course.

Modifié par DSerpa, 18 juin 2011 - 12:48 .


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harkness72 wrote...

Why wouldn't you want the Warden back? They weren't your average Warden, and took a much greater political role than most in the order. Hawke helped to destroy the world (unwittingly), the Warden saved it.


How much of a political role? Historically the wardens  have always united the lands in an effort to combat the blights.  How they unite is irrelevant. As for why I wouldn't want my Ruin Surana back? Well she did the Ultimate Sacrifice and died ending the blight. I find Hawke and his actions, relating to the mage/chantry conflict, simply to have been the last push in an already unbalanced scale that was on the verge of tipping over. Because he didnt follow the cliched role of "saving the world from anihilation" doesnt diminsh his postion as protagonist in Bioware's narrative. I <3 both my Warden and Hawke, but I dont know how many "unite in the face of greater evil" plots I can handle repeated. Just my opinion.  

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Fidget6 wrote...

No, the Warden's story is done let him/her rest in peace. I do hope to see more Hawke though.


None of my Wardens are dead - and they have unfinished business with the architect, the Eluvian, Morrigan's Baby, and the old gods. And not to mention how Ferelden is dealing with the changes brought about by my actions, and the reactions from the surrounding lands. 

Modifié par Serpieri Nei, 18 juin 2011 - 01:59 .


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I still don't get how people get attached to a character who never talks ...

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Zinou wrote...

I still don't get how people get attached to a character who never talks ...


Same reason why people are attached to Link.

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Serpieri Nei

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I wonder did the new generation - stop reading books?

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Gordon Freeman is also another favorite of mine.

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Siradix wrote...

Zinou wrote...

I still don't get how people get attached to a character who never talks ...


Same reason why people are attached to Link.


And yet each Link only has about two-three games.

I really don't want the Warden back. Why? Because Thedas is too big for just one hero. This is the story of the world, not one particular person. Bringing the Warden, or Hawke, back just negates the point of Dragon Age. And if the Warden comes back, that means we either have to have Origins 2: The Re-Blightening, or no Darkspawn at all.. which then, what's the point? Being a Warden isn't much of a point if there's no Spawn to slay. Then you're just another character brought back for no real reason.

I'm fine with Hawke or the Warden showing up, but I don't want to play as them again.

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I'd prefer to have the Warden back over hawke. Hawke is one of the worst characters I have ever played, and the male VO isn't that good either. The female VO was a bit better and less annoying.

I truly hope this is the end of hawke. Let them finish his/her story in DLC's. If hawke is back in DA3, then thats a definite no purchase for me, and DA is dead for me.

@Serpieri Nei

Yeah, a lot of people don't read books anymore, feels like this generation of kids are becoming dumber.

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Amagoi wrote...

Siradix wrote...

Zinou wrote...

I still don't get how people get attached to a character who never talks ...


Same reason why people are attached to Link.


And yet each Link only has about two-three games.

I really don't want the Warden back. Why? Because Thedas is too big for just one hero. This is the story of the world, not one particular person. Bringing the Warden, or Hawke, back just negates the point of Dragon Age. And if the Warden comes back, that means we either have to have Origins 2: The Re-Blightening, or no Darkspawn at all.. which then, what's the point? Being a Warden isn't much of a point if there's no Spawn to slay. Then you're just another character brought back for no real reason.

I'm fine with Hawke or the Warden showing up, but I don't want to play as them again.


I don't see how many games each Link made matters when talking about a person getting attached to a silent protagonist. The fact that Nintendo still uses silent protagonists, means something.

As for the Warden, did you forget about Awakening? There was no blight we had to stop. The game actually added some nice variety to the world. And I think if Bioware would have fleshed it out, it could have been an excellent squeal, instead of an expansion pack.

Modifié par Siradix, 18 juin 2011 - 02:30 .


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Serpieri Nei

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Amagoi wrote...

Siradix wrote...

Zinou wrote...

I still don't get how people get attached to a character who never talks ...


Same reason why people are attached to Link.


And yet each Link only has about two-three games.

I really don't want the Warden back. Why? Because Thedas is too big for just one hero. This is the story of the world, not one particular person. Bringing the Warden, or Hawke, back just negates the point of Dragon Age. And if the Warden comes back, that means we either have to have Origins 2: The Re-Blightening, or no Darkspawn at all.. which then, what's the point? Being a Warden isn't much of a point if there's no Spawn to slay. Then you're just another character brought back for no real reason.

I'm fine with Hawke or the Warden showing up, but I don't want to play as them again.


If Thedas is too big for one hero - then Mass effect should have had different protagonist as well – the universe is definitely too big for one man or woman.

The point of Dragon Age keeps changing - latest interview points to Hawke returning in the sequel - which negates what Bioware has stated previously.

The Blight was stopped but the threat has not ended. The Darkspawn are still around, who knows what the Architect is up too, the Eluvian is clearly dangerous and yet is unknown, we know very little about the OLD Gods, several Thaigs are still missing (who knows what dark secrets they hold), political turmoil from the warden's actions - and all this is just a start.

@Jaldaric - It's a good thing then I got my newphew and neice an E-Book Reader. I'm starting them on the classics.

Modifié par Serpieri Nei, 18 juin 2011 - 02:33 .


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Why yes, yes I want the return of the inexpressive mannequin who communicates telepathically.
Whilst only letting us stare intently at the back of their head 9 times out of 10.

Also some wardens are you know... DEAD.