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[Kusy]

IM WALKING ON A LIGHT BEAM! YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID!

[Warlock Adam]

^WHERE ARE YOUR FALSE EYEBROWS NOW, FOOLISH MORTAL?

[Greatsultan]

[TCGodzilla]

TheDarkRats wrote...

Asari don't have eyebrows.

Well Liara appears to have eyebrows.

[Paxos]

Wolf_in_the_Meadow wrote...

Light can be a solid, currently, you just need a lot of it in one place. Also, it might not be light, but rather an resistive mass effect field which coincides with a hologram so that you can, you know, see what you're doing.

Good answer.

[Davie McG]

It's not outside the realm of possibility, and who said omni tools are made of light, we could have them in the next decade:

also if put on a material that is stiff I'm sure its strong enough to do some damage:

[Aedan_Cousland]

OSUfan12121 wrote...

Asari more then likely have the ability to look different to different species in order to be attractive. The Asari thrve from information gained from other races so what if other races find them ugly? They have to be able to adapt to evolve.

At the bachelor party someone speculates on whether the Asari are able to influence members of other species into finding them physically attractive. It was just speculation by a random non-Asari NPC, and as such might not necessarily be true. It is a possible feature of Asari biology but not a confirmed one.

Even so that statement is often misinterpreted by fans as meaning that the Asari form we see in game is not their true form, and that they may actually look radically different, even repulsive. This notion is not supported by any facts however. If the Asari do have any ability to influence alien minds, the effect would be more subtle, and they would not be carrying out some radical form of mental shapeshifting. The Asari would not be able to influence the minds of people who were not present with them and they've possibly never met, and as such their true forms would be revealed on the nightly news and in movies. Likewise Shepard would have seen the true forms of Aria T'Loak and other Asari that were on the Shadowbroker's video files. There is also a sign in the familiar shape of an Asari dancer hanging outside Chora's Den, that would not look familiar to species other than the one that created it, if the Asari were truly duping members other species into seeing them in a radically different form.

Since none of those problems arise we can safely assume that either the speculation was off base, or that the effect is much more subtle. If the Asari are able to influence alien minds at all it would only be in influencing them to view their actual features as being attractive. To use Liara as an example, the effect may influence someone to overlook her freckles or even find them cute, rather than seeing them as a flaw. But they would be seeing her in her true form.

[Beerfish]

A wizard did it.

[ChristianSoldier]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Plasma isn't light and it isn't solid, so I don't know what you mean by that. Plasma is a collection of loose, ionised particles, and it's an entirely seperate state of matter from solidity. By definition it cannot be solid.

As for why the omnitool can be "solid" and affect solid objects, here's a quote from the codex:

"Omni-tools are handheld devices that combine a computer microframe, sensor analysis pack, and minifacturing fabricator. Versatile and reliable, an omni-tool can be used to analyze and adjust the functionality of most standard equipment, including weapons and armor, from a distance.

The fabrication module can rapidly assemble small three-dimensional objects from common, reusable industrial plastics, ceramics, and light alloys. This allows for field repairs and modifications to most standard items, as well as the reuse of salvaged equipment and applying medicine from stimulants to medi-gel. "

Most computers in the Mass Effect universe use haptic holographic interfaces, which means they can impart a sense of touch to the user despite being projections. The omnitool is just like that. With the existence of mass effect fields, it's not a stretch to conclude that the haptics are provided by the creation of small mass effect forcefields.

The asari don't have eyebrows (except Liara, but hers are presumably painted on). The rest is obvious - they're references to Green Space Babes of classic sci-fi.

Plasma can be solid. I saw the Stars Wars Sci Fi exclusive on Science or History channel and one of the scientists said that lightsabers would be made out of plasma. And I thought Omni tools were made out of light....  Anyways the scientists dismissed light because they would just pass each other. But plasma can be solidified at a certain  hot temperature.

[ChristianSoldier]

Paxos wrote...

Wolf_in_the_Meadow wrote...

Light can be a solid, currently, you just need a lot of it in one place. Also, it might not be light, but rather an resistive mass effect field which coincides with a hologram so that you can, you know, see what you're doing.

Good answer.

That is nonsense. light cannot be solidified.

[Reapinger]

ChristianSoldier wrote...

Paxos wrote...

Wolf_in_the_Meadow wrote...

Light can be a solid, currently, you just need a lot of it in one place. Also, it might not be light, but rather an resistive mass effect field which coincides with a hologram so that you can, you know, see what you're doing.

Good answer.

That is nonsense. light cannot be solidified.

Light is a photon. It is an elementary particle. Particles have mass (minute but it's there) If you compact enough particles into an area, their mass increases enough to form objects. Introduce mass effect fields into the equation and boom you can make shields (Shadow Broker), Blades (ME3), and interfaces (all ME's). I think it's well backed up that this happens. 

[Davie McG]

I dunno, I still like my Graphene example that no one even looked at. Also reapinger is right, light does arguably have mass, but its also totally transparent so it cant just be made of light.

[ChristianSoldier]

Reapinger wrote...

ChristianSoldier wrote...

Paxos wrote...

Wolf_in_the_Meadow wrote...

Light can be a solid, currently, you just need a lot of it in one place. Also, it might not be light, but rather an resistive mass effect field which coincides with a hologram so that you can, you know, see what you're doing.

Good answer.

That is nonsense. light cannot be solidified.

Light is a photon. It is an elementary particle. Particles have mass (minute but it's there) If you compact enough particles into an area, their mass increases enough to form objects. Introduce mass effect fields into the equation and boom you can make shields (Shadow Broker), Blades (ME3), and interfaces (all ME's). I think it's well backed up that this happens. 

Cant be. The star wars documentary dismissed light as a possible candidate as a lightsaber. Therefore light cannot be a solid. I dont think there are any videos that prove that light is a solid.

[ChristianSoldier]

Davie McG wrote...

I dunno, I still like my Graphene example that no one even looked at. Also reapinger is right, light does arguably have mass, but its also totally transparent so it cant just be made of light.

i saw that graphene one which was cool but if that explains shepard's omnitool, then where the hell does that omnitool come out of? We see ppl in ME using their omnitools out of thin air.

[Reapinger]

ChristianSoldier wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

ChristianSoldier wrote...

Paxos wrote...

Wolf_in_the_Meadow wrote...

Light can be a solid, currently, you just need a lot of it in one place. Also, it might not be light, but rather an resistive mass effect field which coincides with a hologram so that you can, you know, see what you're doing.

Good answer.

That is nonsense. light cannot be solidified.

Light is a photon. It is an elementary particle. Particles have mass (minute but it's there) If you compact enough particles into an area, their mass increases enough to form objects. Introduce mass effect fields into the equation and boom you can make shields (Shadow Broker), Blades (ME3), and interfaces (all ME's). I think it's well backed up that this happens. 

Cant be. The star wars documentary dismissed light as a possible candidate as a lightsaber. Therefore light cannot be a solid. I dont think there are any videos that prove that light is a solid.

*MASS EFFECT FORUM, NOT STAR WARS* 

[Reapinger]

ChristianSoldier wrote...

Davie McG wrote...

I dunno, I still like my Graphene example that no one even looked at. Also reapinger is right, light does arguably have mass, but its also totally transparent so it cant just be made of light.

i saw that graphene one which was cool but if that explains shepard's omnitool, then where the hell does that omnitool come out of? We see ppl in ME using their omnitools out of thin air.

Not out of thin air, out of photons. Activate the mass effect field and force light into a shape. 

[ChristianSoldier]

Reapinger wrote...

ChristianSoldier wrote...

Paxos wrote...

Wolf_in_the_Meadow wrote...

Light can be a solid, currently, you just need a lot of it in one place. Also, it might not be light, but rather an resistive mass effect field which coincides with a hologram so that you can, you know, see what you're doing.

Good answer.

That is nonsense. light cannot be solidified.

Light is a photon. It is an elementary particle. Particles have mass (minute but it's there) If you compact enough particles into an area, their mass increases enough to form objects. Introduce mass effect fields into the equation and boom you can make shields (Shadow Broker), Blades (ME3), and interfaces (all ME's). I think it's well backed up that this happens. 

EVEN if light can be a solid, how can light be directed into some kind of gaunlet?

[ChristianSoldier]

Reapinger wrote...

ChristianSoldier wrote...

Davie McG wrote...

I dunno, I still like my Graphene example that no one even looked at. Also reapinger is right, light does arguably have mass, but its also totally transparent so it cant just be made of light.

i saw that graphene one which was cool but if that explains shepard's omnitool, then where the hell does that omnitool come out of? We see ppl in ME using their omnitools out of thin air.

Not out of thin air, out of photons. Activate the mass effect field and force light into a shape. 

What is a  MASS EFFECT? I know its a cool scientific name for the game but is there any evidence of its existance?

[Davie McG]

Reapinger wrote...

ChristianSoldier wrote...

Davie McG wrote...

I dunno, I still like my Graphene example that no one even looked at. Also reapinger is right, light does arguably have mass, but its also totally transparent so it cant just be made of light.

i saw that graphene one which was cool but if that explains shepard's omnitool, then where the hell does that omnitool come out of? We see ppl in ME using their omnitools out of thin air.

Not out of thin air, out of photons. Activate the mass effect field and force light into a shape. 

It could just turn transparent (I mean how well can anyone see a transparent sheet 1 atom thick), or cleaverly fold in and out of the forearm, it would have been in development for over a century i'm sure mankind would have came up with something.

Modifié par Davie McG, 18 juin 2011 - 03:46 .

[Reapinger]

"Mass effect fields are created through the use of element zero. Element zero can increase or decrease the mass content of space-time when subjected to an electrical current via dark energy. With a positive current, mass is increased. With a negative current, mass is decreased. The stronger the current, the greater the magnitude of the dark energy mass effect."

By increasing the positive electrical current within the field, the photons become more massive, creating solid objects. And no, this game is clearly based on science fiction.

[Grissium]

wow I came here ready for nerd rage and instead I am amused, bravo internet!

[Darkeus]

The Star Wars documentary said it?? Really??

Funniest thing I have seen all night!!! Come on man!!

The funny things that are argued on these forums....

[Darkeus]

Oh God, don't feed the trolls...

[SkittlesKat96]

Well the light one has been answered so many times...as for the second one:
It's not so uncommon scientists think that there is a possibility that aliens look a lot like humans, and besides its fiction, they can't make everything 100% realistic obviously