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[blaidfiste]

My rule in dealing with criminals (works most of the time):

If they regret their actions and wish to be killed - take them into custody
If they beg for their lives and wish to make amends - kill them

[happy_daiz]

I let Kelder live in my first playthrough because I didn't know any better. I wanted to kill him, but I didn't want to ****** off the magistrate, or have any issues with the guards waiting outside. I had Aveline with me, so I didn't know if going against the guards would anger her, too. The biggest part was being afraid of the consequences - whatever wrath the magistrate would bestow upon me, but there were none. None! I looked it up in the worthless strategy guide, which said there was a reactive quest later in the game, but that didn't happen. That stupid guide was a waste of $20.

In seven other playthroughs, Kelder got the murder knife. The first few times, I let Fenris have at him, but lately, I've just had my Hawke do the deed herself. Crazy or not, this guy deserves to die, and by allowing him to live, it's condoning his behavior. His own father wanted Hawke to catch Kelder, to continue hiding his crazy/murdering tendencies under a rug, which is just enabling him further. Sorry, but that's corrupt, and I don't feel a bit guilty for killing Kelder. In the end, everyone gets what they wanted, (except for the magistrate). 

By murder knifing Kelder yourself, it's also an easy way to get some friendship points from Isabela. 
 

[Cutlass Jack]

happy_daiz wrote...
By murder knifing Kelder yourself, it's also an easy way to get some friendship points from Isabela. 
 

I'm sure this had nothing whatsoever with my motivation in murderknifing him. Not a thing. Nope.

[happy_daiz]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...
By murder knifing Kelder yourself, it's also an easy way to get some friendship points from Isabela. 
 

I'm sure this had nothing whatsoever with my motivation in murderknifing him. Not a thing. Nope.

That's actually why I stopped letting Fenris kill him. 

[Faust1979]

 A murderer is the worst kind of person in the world. Rape is terrible but murder is much worse

[Cypher0020]

first time I let him live... I thought he was poessessed/nuts and could somehow seek help....

second time..... not so much.....I killed him halfway in my 2nd run....

[jlb524]

I rarely ever play 'lawful' characters, so my three Hawke's killed him, knowing full well that his father would simply release him again so he could repeat his actions.

[Ianamus]

Was that the quest with the cave that for some unfathomable reason looked like the Deep Roads? If so then that bugged me a lot more than the actual quest.

[LobselVith8]

EJ107 wrote...

Was that the quest with the cave that for some unfathomable reason looked like the Deep Roads? If so then that bugged me a lot more than the actual quest.

The recycled enviornments are used a lot, which is why the ruins look so familiar (and why every cave looks virtually identical).

[Torax]

LobselVith8 wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

Was that the quest with the cave that for some unfathomable reason looked like the Deep Roads? If so then that bugged me a lot more than the actual quest.

The recycled enviornments are used a lot, which is why the ruins look so familiar (and why every cave looks virtually identical).

Don't forget their great decorating flavors of just changing which doors are open or just blocking a path with a random cave in...

[FFLB]

This was one of the few quests where I reloaded and tried out multiple options. I was conflicted mainly because of the gain and/or loss of points with the companions. My first choice though was to let him live at the behest of the little girl. I did go back and switch my party around so that I would either gain points or lose no points among the companions for the choice.

And yeah, I was confused about the rapist part too. He was a murderer, but there was no implication of him being a rapist, at least from what I can remember.

[jaybee93]

I've had playthroughs where I didn't kill him, either for rivalry points or because I was trying to be good and I don't actually believe in the death penalty in real life. But... mostly I kill him. Because in the game world I would kill him.

I've read arguments about him being mentally challenged and needing help rather than death, but even in a moral-choice type game like DA they don't pay a lot of attention to whether bat**** insane people need help versus death. So death it is.

[jaybee93]

Here's the article that evaluates the perception of mental illness in the game: http://borderhouseblog.com/?p=4823

"At one point Hawke is asked to apprehend a criminal hiding in the outskirts of Kirkwall. Going there will reveal the criminal is a man who is a serial killer of elven girls. Talking to him reveals a man who hears voices, considered them demons, was told they were not by mages, and refuses to believe he is anything but plagued by demons (which should sound familiar in our own ways of communicating about issues concerning sanity). The way to deal with him is to either kill him (he begs to be killed) or return him to the authorities. There is no option for actually helping him, beyond hiding him away so his politically engaged father can continue his career, or outright killing him. His begging to be killed speaks to larger issues of our society not willing to make room that allows many other options."

It also questions whether it was right or not to kill the mage that kills Hawke's mum.

[White_Jedi]

My first few playthrough's I let him live, mainly to chase him down and fight the creatures that magically appear in area's you have already cleared in the dungeon. No real reactive event other than the letter from Lia's father if he lives, though if you kill Kelder you can meet Lia again in act 3. Third time through I let Fenris kill him (he volunteered) and met Lia in act 3, felt much better about his death then. Just a question of the player's morality or desire for experience as there seem to be no other consequences of the quest anywhere else in the game. In truth though, there are few quest's where you face consequences for your action/inaction in the game. There are some, but not many.

[RPGrogue]

I killed him cause he had the demon in him, and he asked to die

[Furtled]

My Hawke who sided with the Templars brought him back in, all in the name of upholding the law (that and his rambling about demons and voices makes me think acute schizophrenia opposed to possession). I'd actually expected some major follow up from the decision in later acts, but it wasn't to be.

I did wonder that there was no option to leave him there to be eaten though, killing him can feel a lot like granting him a favour. Both choices as they are in game leaves the PC (to me anyway) feeling sullied.

Modifié par Furtled, 21 juin 2011 - 09:03 .

[macrocarl]

I killed him. I tried being lawful but absolutely no party member thinks that's cool, so there was no benefit from letting him go.

[Demx]

I killed him for the friendship points the first time around. The second time around, I let him live and blackmailed his father.

[Dean_the_Young]

Spared him because, well, Hawke was a powerless immigrant with an Apostate sister who needed any and all the help he could get in order to protect his own family, thank you very much. Family first.

But damn, it was a powerful mission. I spared him, went back and reloaded and killed him, then went and reloaded and spared him again, and then reloaded and finally settled on sparing him.

[Nagatsu]

He rapes and murders ppl not exactly someone you have much sympathy for usually
On my 'Goodie two Shoes' Playthrough I spared him and didn't feel too pleased when I recieved a letter that my choice made a girl get a case of androphobia =/

Neutral: I spared him but extorted money out of the magistrate still wasn't too happy with the same letter arriving but got more sovereigns out of it which I think fits a neutral hawke interested in monetary gain over all else.

Strict Aggressive: Shank daggered him so fast with Duos didn't even bat an eye on this choice major brownie points from party members that and letter later about how she joined that guard

After doing these choices I just shank dagger Kelder every time. In conclusion gets to shank dagger someone cut scene style and two removing an evil from the world and bettering an elf's life

Modifié par Nagatsu, 21 juin 2011 - 09:46 .

[Sylvius the Mad]

Killing him isn't my job. I've been hired to retrieve him, so that's what I do.

The problem is that Hawke's dialogue espouses some sort of belief that he's redeemable, when in fact I just don't care. He's not my problem.