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Ser Bard wrote...

Given the choice Garrus or Miranda, nothing against the VS but even my paragon spacer Shep has become disenchanted with the Alliance.


According to Game Informer, the Normandy has been claimed and refit by the Alliance, so it will probably feature a nearly all-Alliance crew. Maybe you could get around that if Shepard still has his/her Specter status, but I don't see Bioware giving us a choice of two radically different Normandys.

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But we can potentially RP against the Alliance... easier if at least some of the non-squaddies are some of the original crew. :D

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RPGamer13

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Ashley all the way!

I'm sure even if it wasn't sanctioned by the alliance that Shepard would fight for Ashley to be it.

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Groundside, Garrus. spaceside, Joker.

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Phoenix92254

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I think its most likely to be the VS but I want Miranda and if not Miranda, Garrus

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My XO would be jack. Only because she scares me.

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Garrus or Miri they're both so highly qualified..... by a loooong stretch.... maybe Anderson after the escape from Earth?

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I was kinda hoping it to be Shepard, with the VS in charge.

Not gonna happen though, too many people would rage that their Shepard wouldn't be officially in command.

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TexasToast712 wrote...

Garrus is the second in command on MY ship. Anyone who doesnt agree wih that gets launched out the Airlock.

Grunt is Garrus' second in command. Iam having him help me train my little krogan boy.Image IPB


I've been waiting for someone with the same opinion on this matter. The alliance isn't in on this one. The normandy SR-2 (even when modified by the alliance) is MY ship. Anyone on board not liking this can leave, either the easy or the hard way if they try to push their luck. "Excellent idea Ash, but this is my ship. What... don't like it? You think this ship belongs to the alliance? There's the door.. now, why don't you leave me alone.."

2nd in command on my ship would probably be Garrus although EDI would also serve that role nicely since all the XO gets to do in ME3 is send a report or 2. EDI can do that.

I was kinda hoping it to be Shepard, with the VS in charge.

Not gonna happen though, too many people would rage that their Shepard wouldn't be officially in command.


Even my pure paragon Shepards would have the VS leaving through an airlock if they tried to pull that :devil:

Modifié par Robhuzz, 18 juin 2011 - 06:05 .


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Ashley/Kaidan.

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This assumes that Shepard is still in command of the Normandy. He didn't call the Normandy when the Earth was attacked, Anderson did. So Shepard may not be in command of anything secondary to his trial. If so, he either doesn't need an XO or he could become the XO to Anderson's command.

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hopefully not that Vega guy. If I could choose it'd be Garrus if not a high ranking Alliance official or Ashley.

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It seems either a lot of people don't like Garrus OR a lot of people don't quite get what an XO actually does.

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knightnblu wrote...

This assumes that Shepard is still in command of the Normandy. He didn't call the Normandy when the Earth was attacked, Anderson did. So Shepard may not be in command of anything secondary to his trial. If so, he either doesn't need an XO or he could become the XO to Anderson's command.


If they want Shepard to take charge and lead the resistance, they're going to need their own ship. If someone else is commanding, they get to take all responsibilities for what's happening, so they better know what the hell is going on.


And the person who knows what the hell is going on best is Shepard.

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An Alliance ship, huh? Pretty sure it's my ship, and I'd make damn sure that's clear the moment I get proven right and the Reapers come a-knockin'.

Heck, if it were me, before turning myself in - and knowing full well what the Alliance would do to my ship - I'd have Liara and Miranda work it out so that it was our people who became the crew of the newly-reclaimed ship.

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Other than Wiki is there a source for this "Alenko is a staff commander". Because as I remember in ME2, it refer him as "commander" only (just like Shepard).

Modifié par snfonseka, 18 juin 2011 - 08:13 .


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I expect to have no choice in the matter and we'll get the VS forced into the position.

But I'm still annoyed about losing the Normandy to the Alliance period. I really liked that the ending of ME2 had my Shep finally deciding to be his own boss.

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Oops.

Modifié par SilentNukee, 18 juin 2011 - 08:15 .


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Made Nightwing

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I like Godwood's idea of having someone else command the Normandy for a while.

For everyone getting butthurt over the Alliance refitting her: Deal with it. She was built by a terrorist organisation, they were well within their rights to take her over and change the paint job.

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snfonseka wrote...

Other than Wiki is there a source for this "Alenko is a staff commander". Because as I remember in ME2, it refer him as "commander" only (just like Shepard).


When you talk to Anderson on the Citadel, there's an option to ask about Kaidan. Shepard will refer to him as staff lieutenant (which was his rank the last time Shepard saw him), and Anderson will correct Shepard by calling him staff commander Alenko, with emphasis on the commander. Nice attention to detail on the part of BioWare.

As a military officer, the whole promotion thing has always bothered me. A staff lieutenant is an O-3 per the wiki, and a staff commander is an O-5. I always viewed Kaidan as younger than Shepard, making him about right to be an O-3 during the events of ME1. Turns out, according to the Wiki, Kaidan is 3 years older than Shepard, making him 32 in ME1 and 34 in ME2. That means he would have been a very old O-3 and definitely on the young side to be an O-5. Yeah, I know the Alliance military can be very different from our own, but seeing him get two ranks in two years just bugs me as unrealistic. Making Kaidan a lieutenant commander would have fit story-wise and would have been far more believable.

On the other side of the Virmire nuclear blast, Ashley's upcoming promotion to lieutenant also bugs me. In ME2, she's an operations chief, or the highest enlisted rank the Alliance has. Per the wiki, she's 27 in ME2, which is *damned* young to be a senior NCO. Now, maybe the Alliance just doesn't bother with senior NCOs, and their six-rank structure is only supposed to equivocate to the first six ranks of a modern military's system instead of the total nine or ten. That would make more sense. Even so, prior-enlisted officer candidates generally don't come from the upper NCO ranks. Instead, they come from the middle, when they're still young enough to have a full officer career ahead of them. In my service, 27 is the absolute maximum age you can be to make the transition from officer to enlisted.

Either way, Shepard is long overdue a promotion himself. I doubt Bioware will make him a captain, because that would take away the "Commander Shepard" moniker we've become so used to. At the very least they should make him a staff commander - that way they can promote him, and keep the title.

For the OP, Garrus is the XO on my boat, Alliance ranks and Cerberus position be damned. If someone objects, they get educated on the chain of command.

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We won't have a XO names Pressly...


...we will have a XO named Priestly

Modifié par Chewin3, 18 juin 2011 - 09:02 .


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Chewin3 wrote...

We won't have a XO names Pressly...


...we will have a XO named Priestly


WIN!

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Orion1836 wrote...

For the OP, Garrus is the XO on my boat, Alliance ranks and Cerberus position be damned. If someone objects, they get educated on the chain of command.


I approve fully. Though that link makes me want Kal Reegar as my XO now...

Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 18 juin 2011 - 09:14 .


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Preferably someone with actual space naval experience. And who'll stay on the ship while Shep's on a planet blowing stuff up.

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Orion1836 wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

Other than Wiki is there a source for this "Alenko is a staff commander". Because as I remember in ME2, it refer him as "commander" only (just like Shepard).


When you talk to Anderson on the Citadel, there's an option to ask about Kaidan. Shepard will refer to him as staff lieutenant (which was his rank the last time Shepard saw him), and Anderson will correct Shepard by calling him staff commander Alenko, with emphasis on the commander. Nice attention to detail on the part of BioWare.

As a military officer, the whole promotion thing has always bothered me. A staff lieutenant is an O-3 per the wiki, and a staff commander is an O-5. I always viewed Kaidan as younger than Shepard, making him about right to be an O-3 during the events of ME1. Turns out, according to the Wiki, Kaidan is 3 years older than Shepard, making him 32 in ME1 and 34 in ME2. That means he would have been a very old O-3 and definitely on the young side to be an O-5. Yeah, I know the Alliance military can be very different from our own, but seeing him get two ranks in two years just bugs me as unrealistic. Making Kaidan a lieutenant commander would have fit story-wise and would have been far more believable.

On the other side of the Virmire nuclear blast, Ashley's upcoming promotion to lieutenant also bugs me. In ME2, she's an operations chief, or the highest enlisted rank the Alliance has. Per the wiki, she's 27 in ME2, which is *damned* young to be a senior NCO. Now, maybe the Alliance just doesn't bother with senior NCOs, and their six-rank structure is only supposed to equivocate to the first six ranks of a modern military's system instead of the total nine or ten. That would make more sense. Even so, prior-enlisted officer candidates generally don't come from the upper NCO ranks. Instead, they come from the middle, when they're still young enough to have a full officer career ahead of them. In my service, 27 is the absolute maximum age you can be to make the transition from officer to enlisted.

Either way, Shepard is long overdue a promotion himself. I doubt Bioware will make him a captain, because that would take away the "Commander Shepard" moniker we've become so used to. At the very least they should make him a staff commander - that way they can promote him, and keep the title.

For the OP, Garrus is the XO on my boat, Alliance ranks and Cerberus position be damned. If someone objects, they get educated on the chain of command.


I knew an Army guy who went from Warrant Officer class One to Captain in his late thirties, but we do things a little differently in Australia.