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[Caihn]

I want my favorite and most competant XO back in ME3 : I want Miranda.

[Sras]

Even if you don't love him, Garrus has been one of the most dependable squaddies in the game, so that makes sense to me. The Virmire survivor would also make a good choice.

[78stonewobble]

Abispa wrote...

I want a Star Trek captain's chair with Urz at my side. If anyone give me crap, I'll feed him/her to my XO, Wrex. I'll promote my officers Darth Vader style. Every hour I go down the the brig and use my pistol to shoot a hole in a Vorcha Pyro's tank.

If Bioware can't give me this, I'll blame EA. They don't care about the fans.

Plus 10 nerd points of rage...


"Apology NOT accepted EA..."

*waves hand and body get's removed by henchmen*

[mesmerizedish]

Miranda or Legion.

[Bobad]

My Shepard has already decided on his XO:

[goofyomnivore]

I'm thinking it will be the VS. I'd rather it be Miranda.

[VolusNamedBob]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Garrus is the second in command on MY ship. Anyone who doesnt agree wih that gets launched out the Airlock.

This.

[Arcana]

VS, or in my case: Kaidan. It would be interesting to see Shepard serving under someone else.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Pressly.

Even in death, his courage inspires us all.

[snfonseka]

Orion1836 wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

Other than Wiki is there a source for this "Alenko is a staff commander". Because as I remember in ME2, it refer him as "commander" only (just like Shepard).

When you talk to Anderson on the Citadel, there's an option to ask about Kaidan. Shepard will refer to him as staff lieutenant (which was his rank the last time Shepard saw him), and Anderson will correct Shepard by calling him staff commander Alenko, with emphasis on the commander. Nice attention to detail on the part of BioWare.

As a military officer, the whole promotion thing has always bothered me. A staff lieutenant is an O-3 per the wiki, and a staff commander is an O-5. I always viewed Kaidan as younger than Shepard, making him about right to be an O-3 during the events of ME1. Turns out, according to the Wiki, Kaidan is 3 years older than Shepard, making him 32 in ME1 and 34 in ME2. That means he would have been a very old O-3 and definitely on the young side to be an O-5. Yeah, I know the Alliance military can be very different from our own, but seeing him get two ranks in two years just bugs me as unrealistic. Making Kaidan a lieutenant commander would have fit story-wise and would have been far more believable.

On the other side of the Virmire nuclear blast, Ashley's upcoming promotion to lieutenant also bugs me. In ME2, she's an operations chief, or the highest enlisted rank the Alliance has. Per the wiki, she's 27 in ME2, which is *damned* young to be a senior NCO. Now, maybe the Alliance just doesn't bother with senior NCOs, and their six-rank structure is only supposed to equivocate to the first six ranks of a modern military's system instead of the total nine or ten. That would make more sense. Even so, prior-enlisted officer candidates generally don't come from the upper NCO ranks. Instead, they come from the middle, when they're still young enough to have a full officer career ahead of them. In my service, 27 is the absolute maximum age you can be to make the transition from officer to enlisted.

Either way, Shepard is long overdue a promotion himself. I doubt Bioware will make him a captain, because that would take away the "Commander Shepard" moniker we've become so used to. At the very least they should make him a staff commander - that way they can promote him, and keep the title.

For the OP, Garrus is the XO on my boat, Alliance ranks and Cerberus position be damned. If someone objects, they get educated on the chain of command.

Thanks for the explanation, I hardly can remember that.

I think that we can assume that Alliance understood their delay in promoting Shepard and VS after the event of ME1. They understood that after the Shepards' death. So they give a promotion to the VS after the event that Normandy got destroyed. As for the Kaidan, we have to assume that his skills helped him to get another promotion before Shepard came to life again. For Ashly we can assume that events in ME2 help her to rise through ranks, or Alliance thinks that she should be at least a lowest grade officer before she becomes a Spectre.

As for XO I like to have Miranda.

[MegaBadExample]

I'd rather have the VS as my XO. Cerberus is dead too me, so I hope I don't have Miranda as my XO again. It's an alliance ship now not Cerberus, so it wouldn't make any sence anyway.

I wouldn't be against Garrus being my XO. Though I don't know how that would work out.

[Cutlass Jack]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Pressly.

Even in death, his courage inspires us all.

That is why they're installing the holographic Omni-Press to the Command center.

[Lumikki]

Miranda is my XO as she isn't dead in my gameplay.

PS: I did choose Asley, so Kaidan is dead.

[fenix8081]

[I knew an Army guy who went from Warrant Officer class One to Captain in his late thirties, but we do things a little differently in Australia.[/quote]

Yeah, like rappelling face down.  You guys are crazy, mate!

[fenix8081]

Abispa wrote...

I want a Star Trek captain's chair with Urz at my side. If anyone give me crap, I'll feed him/her to my XO, Wrex. I'll promote my officers Darth Vader style. Every hour I go down the the brig and use my pistol to shoot a hole in a Vorcha Pyro's tank.

If Bioware can't give me this, I'll blame EA. They don't care about the fans.

Hilarious.  But it would be even sweeter if they had a biotic "choke" power.  Maybe it'll be the vanguard melee attack.  I blame EA for conflict in the Middle East.

[LeVaughnX]

ladyvader wrote...

LeVaughnX wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

Kaidan technically out ranks Shepard, but I see him as the XO. Ash is a LT now, so it would be her as well.

Shepard should be promoted to Captain in my view.

Eh heh heh heh....Kaiden....Out ranking Shepard.....Next you'll say Jacob is a better choice than the two light mechs...

Anyway; assuming you can pick your XO - I have a list.

-----

Infinity#) Zaeed

1#) Garrus
2#) Wrex
3#) Thane
4#) Legion
5#) Mordin

Now I give that list because majority of them (at the end of my pure Paragon runs) proved to me that they were highly intelligent and not very bias. Most of them had the balls to stand up for their right and to learn right from wrong. Most of them lead a team, corporation, or even their entire people - so each of them have experience. Thane is the exception because technically he's a Chaotic Neutral/Good. I consider Thane to be a very good natured person there-fore I think he'd be a good leader even though he's never really "lead" anything.

My favourite characters are Liara/Garrus/Tali (LI)/Wrex/Zaeed/Legion/Mordin -- and I don't care if some of them aren't human; the Alliance bailed on me so this is my ship as far as I'm concerned. They can shove their regulations up their arse. The VS can't be my XO mainly because one is a friggen neo-**** xenophobe with daddy issues and the other is just plain ol annoying on occasion. The two cerberus flunkies are going to be (if possible) booted right out the airlock; though I would boot Miri faster than Jacob only because she sucks off the Illusive Man every chance she got. I'd love for EDI to have her own physical android based body to be my XO but fat chance at that. Annnnnd yeah thats pretty much it.

Kaidan was promoted to Staff Commander.  That outranks Lt. Commander which is Shepard's rank.  

EDIT:
Alliance Ranks for Officers:

• 2nd Lieutenant
  
• 1st Lieutenant
  
• Staff Lieutenant
• Lieutenant Commander(Shepard)
  
• Staff Commander(Alenko)
  
• Captain/Major
  
• Rear Admiral/General
  
• Admiral
  
• Fleet Admiral

You forgot to list "Shepard" as a "Spectre".

[goofyomnivore]

Yeah doesn't Shepard out rank everyone in the Alliance technically? Since the Alliance is now officially a Council race?

[ladyvader]

Orion1836 wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

Other than Wiki is there a source for this "Alenko is a staff commander". Because as I remember in ME2, it refer him as "commander" only (just like Shepard).

When you talk to Anderson on the Citadel, there's an option to ask about Kaidan. Shepard will refer to him as staff lieutenant (which was his rank the last time Shepard saw him), and Anderson will correct Shepard by calling him staff commander Alenko, with emphasis on the commander. Nice attention to detail on the part of BioWare.

As a military officer, the whole promotion thing has always bothered me. A staff lieutenant is an O-3 per the wiki, and a staff commander is an O-5. I always viewed Kaidan as younger than Shepard, making him about right to be an O-3 during the events of ME1. Turns out, according to the Wiki, Kaidan is 3 years older than Shepard, making him 32 in ME1 and 34 in ME2. That means he would have been a very old O-3 and definitely on the young side to be an O-5. Yeah, I know the Alliance military can be very different from our own, but seeing him get two ranks in two years just bugs me as unrealistic. Making Kaidan a lieutenant commander would have fit story-wise and would have been far more believable.

On the other side of the Virmire nuclear blast, Ashley's upcoming promotion to lieutenant also bugs me. In ME2, she's an operations chief, or the highest enlisted rank the Alliance has. Per the wiki, she's 27 in ME2, which is *damned* young to be a senior NCO. Now, maybe the Alliance just doesn't bother with senior NCOs, and their six-rank structure is only supposed to equivocate to the first six ranks of a modern military's system instead of the total nine or ten. That would make more sense. Even so, prior-enlisted officer candidates generally don't come from the upper NCO ranks. Instead, they come from the middle, when they're still young enough to have a full officer career ahead of them. In my service, 27 is the absolute maximum age you can be to make the transition from officer to enlisted.

Either way, Shepard is long overdue a promotion himself. I doubt Bioware will make him a captain, because that would take away the "Commander Shepard" moniker we've become so used to. At the very least they should make him a staff commander - that way they can promote him, and keep the title.

For the OP, Garrus is the XO on my boat, Alliance ranks and Cerberus position be damned. If someone objects, they get educated on the chain of command.

In ME1, Shepard is only 29 and a Lt. Commander.   So why have a problem with Ashley being a LT at her age?

[ladyvader]

LeVaughnX wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

LeVaughnX wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

Kaidan technically out ranks Shepard, but I see him as the XO. Ash is a LT now, so it would be her as well.

Shepard should be promoted to Captain in my view.

Eh heh heh heh....Kaiden....Out ranking Shepard.....Next you'll say Jacob is a better choice than the two light mechs...

Anyway; assuming you can pick your XO - I have a list.

-----

Infinity#) Zaeed

1#) Garrus
2#) Wrex
3#) Thane
4#) Legion
5#) Mordin

Now I give that list because majority of them (at the end of my pure Paragon runs) proved to me that they were highly intelligent and not very bias. Most of them had the balls to stand up for their right and to learn right from wrong. Most of them lead a team, corporation, or even their entire people - so each of them have experience. Thane is the exception because technically he's a Chaotic Neutral/Good. I consider Thane to be a very good natured person there-fore I think he'd be a good leader even though he's never really "lead" anything.

My favourite characters are Liara/Garrus/Tali (LI)/Wrex/Zaeed/Legion/Mordin -- and I don't care if some of them aren't human; the Alliance bailed on me so this is my ship as far as I'm concerned. They can shove their regulations up their arse. The VS can't be my XO mainly because one is a friggen neo-**** xenophobe with daddy issues and the other is just plain ol annoying on occasion. The two cerberus flunkies are going to be (if possible) booted right out the airlock; though I would boot Miri faster than Jacob only because she sucks off the Illusive Man every chance she got. I'd love for EDI to have her own physical android based body to be my XO but fat chance at that. Annnnnd yeah thats pretty much it.

Kaidan was promoted to Staff Commander.  That outranks Lt. Commander which is Shepard's rank.  

EDIT:
Alliance Ranks for Officers:

• 2nd Lieutenant
  
• 1st Lieutenant
  
• Staff Lieutenant
• Lieutenant Commander(Shepard)
  
• Staff Commander(Alenko)
  
• Captain/Major
  
• Rear Admiral/General
  
• Admiral
  
• Fleet Admiral

You forgot to list "Shepard" as a "Spectre".

Spectre is not an Alliance rank.  Why I didn't mention it.  Kaidan is also a Spectre in ME3, so that is a wash.  Unless Shepard gets promoted, Alenko still outranks Shepard.

[Thiev]

I doubt that rank will play that much of a role (or maybe Shep gets promotion as well), considering that most of the potential allies, no to mention the old team, would answer Shepard's call, not the Alliance.

As for XO, I've no problem with VS, Garrus or even someone completely new, but not Miranda.

[KainrycKarr]

ladyvader wrote...

LeVaughnX wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

LeVaughnX wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

Kaidan technically out ranks Shepard, but I see him as the XO. Ash is a LT now, so it would be her as well.

Shepard should be promoted to Captain in my view.

Eh heh heh heh....Kaiden....Out ranking Shepard.....Next you'll say Jacob is a better choice than the two light mechs...

Anyway; assuming you can pick your XO - I have a list.

-----

Infinity#) Zaeed

1#) Garrus
2#) Wrex
3#) Thane
4#) Legion
5#) Mordin

Now I give that list because majority of them (at the end of my pure Paragon runs) proved to me that they were highly intelligent and not very bias. Most of them had the balls to stand up for their right and to learn right from wrong. Most of them lead a team, corporation, or even their entire people - so each of them have experience. Thane is the exception because technically he's a Chaotic Neutral/Good. I consider Thane to be a very good natured person there-fore I think he'd be a good leader even though he's never really "lead" anything.

My favourite characters are Liara/Garrus/Tali (LI)/Wrex/Zaeed/Legion/Mordin -- and I don't care if some of them aren't human; the Alliance bailed on me so this is my ship as far as I'm concerned. They can shove their regulations up their arse. The VS can't be my XO mainly because one is a friggen neo-**** xenophobe with daddy issues and the other is just plain ol annoying on occasion. The two cerberus flunkies are going to be (if possible) booted right out the airlock; though I would boot Miri faster than Jacob only because she sucks off the Illusive Man every chance she got. I'd love for EDI to have her own physical android based body to be my XO but fat chance at that. Annnnnd yeah thats pretty much it.

Kaidan was promoted to Staff Commander.  That outranks Lt. Commander which is Shepard's rank.  

EDIT:
Alliance Ranks for Officers:

• 2nd Lieutenant
  
• 1st Lieutenant
  
• Staff Lieutenant
• Lieutenant Commander(Shepard)
  
• Staff Commander(Alenko)
  
• Captain/Major
  
• Rear Admiral/General
  
• Admiral
  
• Fleet Admiral

You forgot to list "Shepard" as a "Spectre".

Spectre is not an Alliance rank.  Why I didn't mention it.  Kaidan is also a Spectre in ME3, so that is a wash.  Unless Shepard gets promoted, Alenko still outranks Shepard.

Shepard has saved the galaxy more times than Kaidan. Shepard has also kicked more ass than Kaidan.

So, titles or not, Kaidan should bare in mind who's actually in charge, lest we need an education in the matter.

[ladyvader]

KainrycKarr wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

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Kaidan technically out ranks Shepard, but I see him as the XO. Ash is a LT now, so it would be her as well.

Shepard should be promoted to Captain in my view.

[*]Shepard has saved the galaxy more times than Kaidan. Shepard has also kicked more ass than Kaidan.

So, titles or not, Kaidan should bare in mind who's actually in charge, lest we need an education in the matter.

Apparently, you didn't bother to read what I said first.  I said Kaidan would be the XO, NOT CO.  Even though techinally, Alenko outranks Shepard.  Unless Shepard got a promotion, which I highly doubt.  I never once said Kaidan was going to be the CO.  I am just saying that he outranks Shepard.  Which is fact.  No one can deny that.  Both are Spectres so on that front they are equals, unless Shepard didn't save the Council then Shepard isn't even a Spectre.

[TexasToast712]

I really hope there is conflict between Shepard and his alliance leash holder. (most likely the VS) I want my Shepard to dish out some "****, please....." moments to Ashley.

[TuringPoint]

Perhaps it's Anderson.

[Lumikki]

strive wrote...

Yeah doesn't Shepard out rank everyone in the Alliance technically? Since the Alliance is now officially a Council race?

Yes and No. Specter is above all races ranking who recognize Council to have the leadership of united races. Because Specter status, Shepard is not anymore part of Alliance. Meaning Alliance business isn't Shepard consern anymore, unless it's agaist Shepards missions. Point been Shepard can't really order anyone in other races army, but they will co-operate as long they are part of united races, because Shepards is recognized been above the laws. It's little like Shepard can, but is basicly outside of the ranking. Shepard has to also recognize what is every races internal matter and what belongs to Shepards territory.

Modifié par Lumikki, 18 juin 2011 - 05:45 .