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[raz3r]

Was anyone able to activate retail copies of both ME1 and ME2 on Origin? Looks like ME1 keys are not accepted while I can't activate ME2 since it says that someone already used the key. Not that I really care but since ME3 is going to be an Origin exclusive it would have been nice to have the whole collection on the new Store. 

[ForumPortal]

So what is the problem?

[raz3r]

Problem is that I should be able to download a digital copy of ME2 through Origin but instead it does not allow me to activate the key. Strange thing is that I can't see the game on Origin but if I go on my Origin profile it shows that I owns a Digital Deluxe Edition of ME2 (wich is right).

[SLPr0]

This whole Origin deal is a serious d*ck move by EA. Steam already had things pretty well covered, its not like it needed any competition, it does what its supposed to do, publishers should deal with publishing.

The fact that they're basically holding the pre-order for ME3 hostage via this service when I freaking bought ME on a CD-ROM when it originally released, rebought it on Steam so I'd have a Steam copy with my ME2 and now we're pulling this Origin crap really has me annoyed.

Seriously EA, you don't have to reinvent the wheel okay? Steams doing the job, EADM worked for people that wanted to use it, holding games hostage to force people to use your platform is a d*ck move and a half. Might as well rename the company to Electronic Activision, and on the way to ninth level of hell (since you're on the road anyways) find a way to leverage every BW founder and developer out of their stock and own the company so you can hump the corpses of the BW IP until the end of time at 100% profit margin with no royalties or residuals!

Yeah thats my acid filled rant for the day. I used to like EA cause at least they looked better than Activision but slowly but surely they're getting darker and darker.

Seriously, I am not amused by this Origin move in regards to the ME3 preorder. Its making me really cranky.

[Paulinius]

As a PC only gamer and someone who has been one Steam since the day it was released, I am saddened by Origin.

I wish I could have ME3 Collector's Edition on Steam, but now I have to pre-order it at Gamestop and go and pick up a physical copy.

[TheDaaave]

If ME3 isn't released on Steam I will not buy it. I am not installing two another platform for my games. I already need separate log-ins for my Steam games and Battle:net Games. Besides Steam is the single most convenient service out there in terms of functionality. It provides a tolerbale degree of DRM and decent service at the same time. But this industry has stopped caring about its costumers long ago. They always find some 13 year old boy who will just buy any game no matter how restrictive the DRM scheme.
Therefore: No 'Origin' Games for me.

[Bogsnot1]

Given that Origin is an EA product, official tech support for ME/ME2 is performed by EA, and account support is performed by EA, dont you think you should take this up with EA, insead of asking "why is this so?" on the forums?

[landis963]

TheDaaave wrote...

If ME3 isn't released on Steam I will not buy it. I am not installing two another platform for my games. I already need separate log-ins for my Steam games and Battle:net Games. Besides Steam is the single most convenient service out there in terms of functionality. It provides a tolerbale degree of DRM and decent service at the same time. But this industry has stopped caring about its costumers long ago. They always find some 13 year old boy who will just buy any game no matter how restrictive the DRM scheme.
Therefore: No 'Origin' Games for me.

This, but I'll buy it hardcopy.  But if Origin, for some reason, is piggybacked on ME3 like some type of mind-controlling fungus, then I will not buy it.  

[TheDaaave]

At least with the Mass Effect Franchise I don't have to worry about them removing essential features like Skirmish mode, bots and LAN support "To battle piracy" because this game HAS NO multiplayer portion whatsoever.

[TR0D]

I like EA, they will make me do sport to go take my ME3 CE

[Lumikki]

You have registered you ME2 here and you can't activate that game with same key?

Strange....

Contact EA and ask about it?

[Grissium]

I'm not horribly surprised, about this move honestly. Why have to share money with Steam to sell your game when you can just do it yourself. Whats probably going to happen is another two to three "Steam/Origin" like services are going to come out. They will duke it out, the community will pick one maybe two over the others, and that will be that. And don't think Steam will make it just because it's first. When was the last time you logged into your Myspace or your Friendster account?

[Veex]

raz3r_ wrote...

Problem is that I should be able to download a digital copy of ME2 through Origin but instead it does not allow me to activate the key. Strange thing is that I can't see the game on Origin but if I go on my Origin profile it shows that I owns a Digital Deluxe Edition of ME2 (wich is right).

Your best bet would be to contact EA's support. They've got a live chat feature that is available fairly quickly (usually a five minute wait tops) and should be to handle your issue. They'll likely verify where your original purchase was made, where you originally registered the copy, and then let you register at Origin. Shouldn't take long.

SLPr0 wrote...

This whole Origin deal is a serious d*ck move by EA. Steam already had things pretty well covered, its not like it needed any competition, it does what its supposed to do, publishers should deal with publishing.

I know right? Valve should hold the monolopy on digital distribution and other companies should be held hostage to pay them dues to publish on their service. How dare EA want to keep its money! Please.

[Kai Hohiro]

1)  Keep in mind your Bioware Social and Origin account are one and the same thing. Don't create a seperate Origin account.

2) If you have difficulties getting a key to work just go to EA Livechat . The support staff is incredibly helpful and will definitely fix your problem. Pretty much some of the best customer support I've ever experienced, especially compared to Steam's terribad ticket support which will take several days until someone responds.

Modifié par Kai Hohiro, 20 juin 2011 - 08:08 .

[Eurhetemec]

I activated my ME2 on Origin using the key from my Steam install, and I have to say, I find Origin, so far, cleaner and less intrusive than Steam - I mean hell, I can boot Origin-ME2 without Origin even running, alone without being assaulted by Steam's overlay.

I'm a near-day-one Steam user, but if Origin can give me service as good or better, and doesn't need to be on to boot Origin games, then, I'm fine with using both, personally. I suspect Steam will always have better prices.

I do think it's a bit dirty of EA/BioWare to not give pre-order bonuses on Steam, though, I must say. I'd rather choose Origin because it's good than because it's the only choice.

[Wintermist]

I bought a lot of games through EA and I'm glad I did so. Compared to STEAM, EA is much cheaper and has always worked for me. I'm not saying STEAM doesn't works, but EA works too, and they're cheaper.

Modifié par Wintermist, 20 juin 2011 - 09:43 .

[Sailears]

I'm on the fence with this.
Steam is well established and extremely convenient, and I don't like the idea of having more than one application to manage digitally distributed games.
However I know next to nothing about Origin, and if it is in any way cleaner and simpler, then it might be ok.
I'd like to have ME1 and 2 on there as well, but the idea of having to pay for them and all the DLC over again, just to have them all on Origin is not appealing.

[TheDaaave]

I am a fervent supporter of Steam mainly for one reason. It introduced a form of DRM that was less restrictive and counter-balanced any restrictiveness by superior support. Last week some of my Mass effect game files were corrupt because of a faulty cluster on my hard-drive. So after I ran chkdsk I just used the 'verify integrity of game cache' function and it replaced all the corrupt files that would crash my game. With other services I would have to re-install the game completely. In addition to this I have one log-in for all of my games.
My experience with EA so far has been that they leave out what I deem to be essential features of a game. I played Battlefield Bad Company 2 to find that they had left out Skirmish mode, AI Bots and LAN mode "to battle piracy" ON TOP of having compulsory registration and a separate log-in to access the multiplayer. I go to a lot of LAN parties throughout the year where internet access is restricted and recently if we are not playing a Valve title we have to resort to older games because they still have essential features in place that EA just leaves out. It is this restrictiveness that I am afraid of. So far all EA DRM has done is dumbed down the product and now I am asked to leave the most legitimate DRM platform I know behind to be able to access EA titles in the future. All I can do is pity all these 12 year olds who don't know what their minimum expectation of game features should be and buy just about any crap that companies like EA and Ubisoft throw their way.

Wintermist wrote...

I bought a lot of games through EA and
I'm glad I did so. Compared to STEAM, EA is much cheaper and has always
worked for me. I'm not saying STEAM doesn't works, but EA works too,
and they're cheaper.

That is about the only downside of Steam. I usually wait for their sales to acquire new games in addition to trying to see the additional cost as a service charge (Clenching my teeth when I have a very VERY good day).

Modifié par TheDaaave, 21 juin 2011 - 01:24 .

[FERMi27]

raz3r_ wrote...

since ME3 is going to be an Origin exclusive

Where the **** did that came from?

[CaolIla]

Veex wrote...

raz3r_ wrote...

Problem is that I should be able to download a digital copy of ME2 through Origin but instead it does not allow me to activate the key. Strange thing is that I can't see the game on Origin but if I go on my Origin profile it shows that I owns a Digital Deluxe Edition of ME2 (wich is right).

Your best bet would be to contact EA's support. They've got a live chat feature that is available fairly quickly (usually a five minute wait tops) and should be to handle your issue. They'll likely verify where your original purchase was made, where you originally registered the copy, and then let you register at Origin. Shouldn't take long.

SLPr0 wrote...

This whole Origin deal is a serious d*ck move by EA. Steam already had things pretty well covered, its not like it needed any competition, it does what its supposed to do, publishers should deal with publishing.

I know right? Valve should hold the monolopy on digital distribution and other companies should be held hostage to pay them dues to publish on their service. How dare EA want to keep its money! Please.

The Thing is EA doesn't have a problem with sharing but not having the monopoly on their digital distribution. That's what they want. If they have the only platform where you can buy EA games digitally they can dictate their own price. That surely will be good for all their customers <_<

[Bogsnot1]

From what Ive been able to discern from the various tech support threads, you cant register your copy of ME2 on Origin while you have it installed on your computer.
Uninstall it, then you should be able to activate it using your existing product key.

Obligatory Penny Arcade:

[amcnow]

FERMi27 wrote...

raz3r_ wrote...

since ME3 is going to be an Origin exclusive

Where the **** did that came from?

I also feel the need to point this out.  The digital version of ME3 is an Origin exclusive.

[Eurhetemec]

TheDaaave wrote...

My experience with EA so far has been that they leave out what I deem to be essential features of a game. I played Battlefield Bad Company 2 to find that they had left out Skirmish mode, AI Bots and LAN mode "to battle piracy" ON TOP of having compulsory registration and a separate log-in to access the multiplayer. I go to a lot of LAN parties throughout the year where internet access is restricted and recently if we are not playing a Valve title we have to resort to older games because they still have essential features in place that EA just leaves out. It is this restrictiveness that I am afraid of. So far all EA DRM has done is dumbed down the product and now I am asked to leave the most legitimate DRM platform I know behind to be able to access EA titles in the future. All I can do is pity all these 12 year olds who don't know what their minimum expectation of game features should be and buy just about any crap that companies like EA and Ubisoft throw their way.

Just to be clear, TheDaaave, that was NOT an EA decision, it was a DICE decision. Most of the major studios under the EA label make their own choices (much like Blizzard does under Activision, though other Activision labels are usually more directly controlled), DICE and BioWare (including Mythic and BioWare Austin) certainly do. They have their own marketing departments, make their own pricing decisions, own decisions re: DLC and so on.

So you're dead wrong to blame "EA" here. There is no EA "policy" to leave that stuff out.

There may be a DICE policy, but that's different and more specific.

Another specific example of a DICE decision is the "Physical Warfare Pack" fiasco. That was all DICE. Similarly with Crysis 2 being removed from Steam - that was a dispute between Crytek and Steam, not EA as a whole, and Steam.

The upside of this less direct control is, that imho, EA studios tend to produce better-quality and more risky games than, for example, Activision-Blizzard.

It's also worth noting that, iirc, BFBC2's major competitor MW2, was also missing those features (let me know if I misremember).

Modifié par Eurhetemec, 21 juin 2011 - 03:30 .

[TheDaaave]

Eurhetemec wrote...

It's also worth noting that, iirc, BFBC2's major competitor MW2, was also missing those features (let me know if I misremember).

Modern Warfare was equally lacking features. However, that the main competitor was not any better does not make a ****ty practice any more acceptable. When I play L4D2 I can costumize the entire game according to my liking. I can make the choice to play with my Friends over LAN, I can make the choice to play singleplayer with bots or have a multiplayer match with bots and real players on the team.

Also, choices about DRM are often made by the publisher as amply demonstrated by Ubisoft. Nothing will stop EA from imposing its idea of DRM on its studios. Once Origin goes full power they might make all new Games Origin exclusive even if the case Crysis 2 cannot be seen as a precedent for such a policy.

amcnow wrote...

FERMi27 wrote...

raz3r_ wrote...

since ME3 is going to be an Origin exclusive

Where the **** did that came from?

I also feel the need to point this out.  The digital version of ME3 is an Origin exclusive.

Source on this anybody?

Modifié par TheDaaave, 21 juin 2011 - 08:05 .

[amcnow]

TheDaaave wrote...

Eurhetemec wrote...

It's also worth noting that, iirc, BFBC2's major competitor MW2, was also missing those features (let me know if I misremember).

Modern Warfare was equally lacking features. However, that the main competitor was not any better does not make a ****ty practice any more acceptable. When I play L4D2 I can costumize the entire game according to my liking. I can make the choice to play with my Friends over LAN, I can make the choice to play singleplayer with bots or have a multiplayer match with bots and real players on the team.

Also, choices about DRM are often made by the publisher as amply demonstrated by Ubisoft. Nothing will stop EA from imposing its idea of DRM on its studios. Once Origin goes full power they might make all new Games Origin exclusive even if the case Crysis 2 cannot be seen as a precedent for such a policy.

amcnow wrote...

FERMi27 wrote...

raz3r_ wrote...

since ME3 is going to be an Origin exclusive

Where the **** did that came from?

I also feel the need to point this out.  The digital version of ME3 is an Origin exclusive.

Source on this anybody?

Sorry.  I meant to type digital delux version of ME3 (the digital collector's edition).  As of yet, this has not been confirmed by BioWare.  I'm fairly confident the digital delux edition with be Origin exclusive.  The normal digital version should be available to other digital outlets (such as Steam), but has yet to be confirmed as well.