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[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Swordfishtrombone wrote...

Garbage Master wrote...
@Swordfishtrombone, nice list, though Russell is too arrogant in his way.

He devoted much of his time to alchemy, which of course proved to be nothing but pseudoscience. Still, it's hard to not include Newton on a pretty high position on any list that is science-oriented, as he is a true giant in the field of physics.

Agreed great scientist. USSR scientist proved that turning kind of Metal to gold is possible, but it is too costly, needs too much energy and therefore pointless.

[lionalio87]

These people i like the most (Not in order):
1 - Isaac Newton - physicist (One of the greatest physicist of all time. One can hardly imagine the nowaday science without his revolutionary contributions. I prefer him to Einstein, truly)

2 - Alexander the Great - General (One of the greatest General of all time. He is simply unstoppable military commander, rarely get any failure in his combat. And we cannot imagine what the world would change if he could reach China in his time!)

3 - Nicolas Copernicus - Astronomist (He was the first person who put questions to the Catholic Church's knowledge about the nature, and also put the first sign of the revolution in science. He might not so famous but he is a memorable person)

4 - Leonardo Da Vinci - the artist, the inventor, the engineer (One of the greatest character of all time. His contributions for the world not only the famous Mona Lisa, but also invented many things that exist in the modern day (airplane, clock, etc))

5 - Catherine the Great - Empress (She rised the power of the Russia at her time. Although she did many controversies and scandal but her contributions is truly great, especially for the Russia. One of the most impressive woman that ever exist!)

6 - Ho Chi Minh - revolutionary (He brought Vietnam from dominated ethnic to become independence. He had many contributions to the Vietnamese revolutions and also for the revolutions around the world. He is a very high charisma that can make us impressive)

7 - Aristotle - Philosopher (He is one of the greatest phylosopher of all time. His theory still have a widespread significance nowaday. He is also the great educator that educated many genius (including Alexander the Great!))

8 - William Gates III - Chairman of Microsoft (He is truly one of the most successful chairman and CEO of all time. Ad mit or not, he still have a great influence in our life.)

9 - William Shakespear - Playwright (WTF the OP doesn't want to write the name of the Novelist or Playwright have a high influence?<_<<_<<_<. Hamlet, Othello, Romeo & Juliet...his immortal works is still the standard of play all over the world, and today there are still many thesis, discussions about his work. Maybe he is the greatest playwright ever. @OP: don't tell me that you are Shakespear's racist!!)

10 - Charles de Gaulle - General + President of France (He was the great general that rised up the France's power. The France can hardly achieve its position nowaday without his contribution. One of the most remarkable person in 20th century)

Modifié par lionalio87, 18 juin 2011 - 08:21 .

[KenKenpachi]

Garbage Master wrote...

I'm happy that at least Teutons and Mamelukes stopped mongols or we have a world with half of it Mongolian. I really disgust that guy, despite freedom of religion he and his sons killed near 10 million humans. believe it or not, they massacred China and Persia and weakened these countries for several centuries.
Others, as you said.

Err actully they never did. In fact the Mongols under General Subutai had an open door to the west...which as you noted half the world would be mongolian or mongolian mixed, well they had nothing to stop him. It was the death of his son that took over after him where it all fell apart, the grandkids chopped the Empire up, which brought it all down. Remarkable when you go from dirt farmers to rulers of a huge empire and then back to dirt farmers in around 80 years. So the mongols kicked themselves. And oh yes I will say he was...to put it nicely prone to overreacting, but it should be noted he kept his word and never killed messangers. His conquest of China and Persia were bloody as 1, the Persians killed his messanger in a very rude fashion to say the least, and then the Chinese who promised additional forces to support said war, didn't bring crap, so yeah. He took oaths very damn serriously. And while the starting periods were bloody the after years weren't. Not that that justifies it, it is amussing to note he only took Afghanistan given this however. 

I am well aware of the body count and it was much higher than your given, and in most reguards not needed. And in fact he did kill those regions in fact Iraq is a desert in large regions purely because of the mongols, same with the mideast being backwards today, his army litterally turned the clock back at least 300 years. In China it ended up ruining huge regions and knocking them back technologically, however this has more to  do with Kubla Khan and his off spring and the lavish lifestyle they chose, more than his Grandfather.  The thing I find most "humorous" is if not for his death the world would be under mongol sway, or if not for his rise at all, the world would have went down a more Eastern path where the west never had that time to catch up and pass the Eastern powers. But he wasn't more bloody than others around that time period, Crusades anyone? By Modern Standards he was bloody, by the standards of then "meh" . Alexander while normally seen as being more "favorable" pretty much used the same tactics, as in attacking a city killing everyone and letting word spread. Then saying "Lulz you give up or want same?"

But Western History dispite being as (if not more) bloody is often looked at with a kinder set of eyes. Reguardless he was and still is a very controversial figure. I respect him for his ability to do so much with so little, be it for good or evil, nothing like that has been seen again, or before. Its the same reason I would Consider Erwin Rommel a Brilliant commander dispite being on the "wrong" side.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 18 juin 2011 - 08:27 .

[vometia]

I suppose I may as well include an actual list of people not called Dave:

• Geordie Stephenson (engineer)
• Dennis Ritchie (programmer, part time gnome)
• Bernard Montgomery (army chap, moustache owner)
• Alan Turing (mathematician)
• Boudicca (nutter)
• Florence Nightingale (all round good egg, non-moustache grower)
• Terry Pratchett (novelist, whether he's supposed to be here or not)
• Nikolai Tesla (dangerous electrical tomfoolery and curious facial hair)
• Isaac Newton (inventor of the gravity-fed apple delivery system)
• John Constable (painter of nice pictures)

[GodWood]

In no particular order...

Genghis Khan (Warrior/Ruler/Emperor)

Oda Nobunaga (Daimyo, initiated the unification of Japan)

Tokugawa Ieyasu (Founder and first shogun of the Tokugawa Shogunate)

Qin Shi Huang Di (First emperor of China)

Tycho Brache (Danish Nobleman, he kept a clairvoyant dwarf jester named Jepp that sat under the table at dinner parties and had a pet moose that died after getting drunk and falling down the stairs - nuff said)

Friedrich Nietzsche (Philosopher, poet, composer, philologist)

Caligula (Probably the funniest and most batsh*t insane ruler ever)

Leonardo da Vinci (Literally a god. He could draw with one hand and write with the other, backwards, at the same time!)

Nero (Another lulzy Roman Emperor)

Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt (The personification of badarse)


Plus a bunch of others: Cesare Borgia, Gongsun Long, Zhuangzi, Xerxes, Fidel Castro etc...

Modifié par GodWood, 19 juin 2011 - 01:56 .

[jamesp81]

10. Winston Churchill (great leader)
9. Ronald W. Reagan (great leader)
8. General George S. Patton, Jr (the last of the romantic warriors)
7. Thomas Jefferson (great leader, spoke at length on the topic of natural human rights existing independently of any government)

6. Ben Franklin (great leader)
5. John Moses Browning (the greatest American designer of modern small arms.  Some of his designs are over a century old now, and remain in use to this day)

4. Samson (soldier.  Killed an entire army by beating them to death with the jawbone of a donkey.  That's hardcore)

3. Adam Smith (economics)
2. Albert Einstein (science, theory of relativity especially)
1. Jesus Christ (God)

Modifié par jamesp81, 19 juin 2011 - 04:06 .

[Lord Phoebus]

1. Gaius Julius Caesar (Politician, General)
2. Max Plank (Physicist)
3. Friedrich Nietzsche (Philosopher)
4. Ernesto Guevara (Doctor, Revolutionary)
5. Galileo Galilei (Scientist, Mathematician)
6. Thomas Young (Scientist)
7. James Clerk Maxwell (Physicist)
8. Wiliam Wilberforce (Politician)
9. Khalil Gibran (Philosopher)
10. Salah ah-Din Yusuf ibn Ayyub (Politician, General)

Modifié par Lord Phoebus, 22 juin 2011 - 04:16 .

[Clover Rider]

 In no real order.

Friedrich Nietzsche

Zhou Enlai

Theodore Roosevelt

Albert Einstein

Leonardo da Vinci

Isaac Newton

Charles Darwin

Martin Luther King, Jr

George Washington

William Shakespeare

And a ton of others it really is hard just to cut it down to just 10 but this list is of people I have been reading up on again, so may as well put them on the list.

Modifié par Some Geth, 19 juin 2011 - 04:43 .

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Cunfucius

Great teacher and a source of goodness

Socrates

Wise and honourable man.

Ronald W. Reagan (great leader)

Most important in the History of the world in the last 30 years.

[Fortlowe]

Martin Luther King, Jr.

Frederick Douglas

Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

Harriet Tubman

Assata Shakur

Franklin Roosevelt

Abraham Lincoln

Ernest Hemingway (yeah I know he's a writer)

Albert EInstien

Susan B. Anthony

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Fortlowe wrote...
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

These two guys were so peaceful and great leaders. Alas .. in some countries, peaceful changes is not possible.
I think the decline of Britain in and after WW2, had a significance role in Independence of India. Gandhi alone couldn't do that without that help.

[SOLID_EVEREST]

Julius Caesar because he was resurrected in the Fallout world, and he had the best voice actor in the entire game.

[Swordfishtrombone]

Just realized that I completely forgot Norman Borlaug from the list - embarrasing. Boralug is the nobel-winning scientist who, through his scientific work, has saved the lives of more people than anyone else in the history of humankind. He is generally credited for saving a billion people from starvation.

[Gterror]

Joan of Arc

Eisenhower

Marthin Luther King Jr

William the Conqueror

Erwin Rommel

[GodWood]

Garbage Master wrote...

Cunfucius

Great teacher and a source of goodness

Never been a fan of confucianism.

What if my parents are crazy baby-eating n@zis? Then what do I do Mr. Confucious?

From what I've read none of the writings attributed to him seem to address this issue.

[lobi]

GodWood wrote...

Garbage Master wrote...

Cunfucius

Great teacher and a source of goodness

Never been a fan of confucianism.

What if my parents are crazy baby-eating n@zis? Then what do I do Mr. Confucious?

From what I've read none of the writings attributed to him seem to address this issue.

I know of at least one baby they didn't eat.

Forget injuries, never forget kindnesses.

Confucius

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

I don't understand why people don't like someone for just a little error in their teaching. The rest of his teaching is precious. whatever.. We should not ignore someone for a little disagreement. If that becomes a method, you must fight even with your neighbors.
Others can complete some thinkers teachings and fix their errors. That is why the newer thinkers have more enhanced and more acceptable ideas.

[Aslanasadi]

No real order

Albert Einstein
Albert Schweitzer
Mahatma Ghandi
Golda Meir
Elisabeth I of England
Abraham Lincoln
Otto von Bismarck
Martin Luther King Jr.
Mother Teresa
Cleopatra

Actually I could go on and add more, those are the once who just got into my mind. But there are plenty others as well ^^

[J4N3_M3]

okay, I'm gonna stay pretty simple here

Sir Peter Ustinov
Charles M. Schulz
Bill Watterson (not dead yet YAY)
Charles Goodyear and Julius Fromm
Leonardo Da Vinci
the person who invented chocolate
the person who invented coffee!
the people who intvented the internet.
oh and Johannes Gutenberg

yup, that's pretty much it. Make of that what you will.

[lobi]

Aslanasadi wrote...
Mother Teresa

You need to watch Christopher Hitchins on mother teresa.www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par lobi, 20 juin 2011 - 07:24 .

[lobi]

Paul Erdős, Mathematician
Victor Chang, Medicine
Antisthenes, philosophy
Marian Smoluchowski, Physics
Simone de Beauvoir, Philosophy
Marie Antoinette, Politics
Carl Sagan, Astronomy and cosmology
Steve Wozniak, the woz
Roy Trubshaw, programmer
René Descartes, Philosophy (more because of who he influenced)

Venerate? yes though not blindly.

Modifié par lobi, 20 juin 2011 - 09:59 .

[GodWood]

Garbage Master wrote...
I don't understand why people don't like someone for just a little error in their teaching. The rest of his teaching is precious. whatever.. We should not ignore someone for a little disagreement. If that becomes a method, you must fight even with your neighbors.
Others can complete some thinkers teachings and fix their errors. That is why the newer thinkers have more enhanced and more acceptable ideas.

Well technically I said I didn't like Confucianism not Confucius.
And his blind devotion to the idea of filial piety isn't just a 'little error' it's a fundamental flaw that shapes the basis of his entire philosophy.

Plus there's the whole creating a doctine that has been oppressing women for a good 2,000 years...

But like I said my beef is with the philosophy, not the man.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

@GodWood, good point.
@J4N3_M3, It's Alright

Cleopatra

Somehow overrated! Ok as woman she was a good ruler.

Antisthenes, philosophy

Very interesting, but I prefer Zeno of Citium who was once in the school of Antisthenes.

Modifié par Garbage Master, 20 juin 2011 - 01:10 .