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[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Who says they don't hit the Citadel first in ME 3? Repairs are still ongoing, maybe communications were shut down properly this time. Shepard just happens to be on Earth in a trial this time around.

[ladyvader]

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

Who says they don't hit the Citadel first in ME 3? Repairs are still ongoing, maybe communications were shut down properly this time. Shepard just happens to be on Earth in a trial this time around.

Because the Reapers came into the galaxy where we blew up the relay in Arrival.  They are moving north if you look at the galaxy map.  This was mentioned during one of the demos at E3.  Shepard just made it where they couldn't use the Alpha relay to jump to other systems.  

[cmmder shepard]

Earth is one of the first planet to get hit because humanity stopped them

[KevShep]

cmmder shepard wrote...

Earth is one of the first planet to get hit because humanity stopped them

Humanity did not stop them. Only one human is responsible for delaying the reapers and the big reason why was not us at all. It was due to the protheans for even giving us a chance and even then we almost failed.

The reapers are after humans for another reason(reason is yet "unknown"). Going right to the Citedal is the best option as long as you have some indoctrinated people so they can take control away from the keepers. This way the reapers can shut down the relays. However the reapers may not know yet how to undo the protheans keeper code alterations. If thats the case then that might explane why they are not targeting the citedal first. 

[packardbell]

Considering the Citadel is a fortress and can lock itself down to be impregnable, attacking that firstly would be a waste of time. Better they go after populated systems completley unprepared for a reaper inasion, build up their ground forces then attack it after they've gone through asari, salarian and ect space.

[Praetor Knight]

Necro? Well, Medhia Nox has this awesome dialogue where I figured Ben Browder and Anthony Simcoe could voice nicely.

Praetor Shepard wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

How the Reapers lost the Citadel, by Bioware.

Sovereign: I will take control of the Citadel and call forth my Reaper brothers from the Void to destroy all sentient life! (considers twirling evil handlebar mustache - then realizes he's a robot cuttlefish... or a robot in a cuttlefish... or an alien smoothie, inside a robot, inside a cuttlefish)

Shepard: How about... no?

Sovereign: What did you say dust speck? I am Sovereign - vanguard of your destruction!

Shepard: Yeah, well - while you were monologue-ing I killed your pet Turian and reprogrammed the Citadel.

Sovereign: But I am Sovereign... the vanguard....

Shepard: It's still no...

Sovereign: You're an ass... you know that Shepard? I'm gonna be in so much trouble because of this.

Shepard: Time to die robot cuttlefish... thing.

Sovereign: I'm actually an alien smoothie, inside a rob.... *BOOM*

FIN

Only if Ben Browder voices Shepard, and Anthony Simcoe voices Sovereign

[Han Shot First]

Jazharah wrote...

You prevented the citadel from being taken in ME1. Would you like a repeat of ME1?

I would like the Citadel to fall in ME3.

Shepard doesn't even have to be there.

[KevShep]

packardbell wrote...

Considering the Citadel is a fortress and can lock itself down to be impregnable, attacking that firstly would be a waste of time. Better they go after populated systems completley unprepared for a reaper inasion, build up their ground forces then attack it after they've gone through asari, salarian and ect space.

I dont think that the citadel fleet would stand a chance against a full out assault by the reapers. The reapers can get into the citadel arms befroe they close like soeverign did.

[Inutaisho7996]

Dreadwing 67 wrote...

The collectors were suppose to take back the citadel with the Human Reaper. Now that all the Reapers are coming, they will use the Citadel to retreat back into Darkspace after they "Reap".

For now, wipe out the homeworlds, then the Citadel will be the final battle.

That's Reaper tactics, they just forgot to include Shepard in the equation.

No. Is was outright stated that they couldn't have been able to succesfully harvest enough humans without getting the attention of the Council.  Attacking a few settlements out in the Terminous Systems is nothing; attacking Council Space is another. The Reapers were already on their way, and the Collectors were just getting a head start.

[LilyasAvalon]

They tried that in ME1 and were gonna try agian in ME2, but now I'm beginning to think the Reapers aren't as God like as we would like to believe. They're letting their emotions, respect, anger, rage, fear, get the best of them (Assuming they can even FEEL such things).

Shepard's actions caused them to start the abductions of human colonies, tens of thousands of humans, for the creation of a human reaper. They obviously now think humans are important and want to start the destruction of the galaxy with us.

[KevShep]

Inutaisho7996 wrote...

Dreadwing 67 wrote...

The collectors were suppose to take back the citadel with the Human Reaper. Now that all the Reapers are coming, they will use the Citadel to retreat back into Darkspace after they "Reap".

For now, wipe out the homeworlds, then the Citadel will be the final battle.

That's Reaper tactics, they just forgot to include Shepard in the equation.

No. Is was outright stated that they couldn't have been able to succesfully harvest enough humans without getting the attention of the Council.  Attacking a few settlements out in the Terminous Systems is nothing; attacking Council Space is another. The Reapers were already on their way, and the Collectors were just getting a head start.

This is part of the story that does not make sense(when looking at the story from face value). There is NO reason, and I will say it again that there is not one single reason for the collectors to start harvesting before the reaper invasion.

Just look at what happend....(supposing cerberus is not indoctrinated) Cerberus gets there hands on the collector base or shepard destroys it. Cerberus could then use it against the reapers...or the reapers would not be able to use it at all if shep destroyed it. 

[Dark_Caduceus]

Why didn't the Allies go for Berlin first? Making a beeline for a belligerent in a war isn't a good idea, because you take massive casualties on the way if you don't wear them down first.

[KainrycKarr]

Jazharah wrote...

You prevented the citadel from being taken in ME1. Would you like a repeat of ME1?

[Lotion Soronarr]

huntrrz wrote...

They changed their strategy. They would normally use the Citadel to disable the relay network and cripple the opposing fleets' mobility, but now that a Reaper IFF has been captured they cannot prevent it from being copied and used to negate their advantage of sole use of the relays.

Also, the Citadel is likely to be the most heavily defended installation in the galaxy. Lacking surprise, they are working their way in from the edges instead of making their initial strike through it.

Tehy should be able to re-program the relays from the Citadel..they are super AI's after all....

[Sashimi_taco]

Did the OP even play ME1?

[Lotion Soronarr]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Why didn't the Allies go for Berlin first? Making a beeline for a belligerent in a war isn't a good idea, because you take massive casualties on the way if you don't wear them down first.

That really doesn't apply to the reapers.

They are faster, more mible and cna do hit-and-run a LOT better than you can.

[Elvis_Mazur]

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense when you consider that the Citadel controls the Relays. I want a proper explanation, Bioware!!

[legion999]

Maybe the council closed all relays to the citadel.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Because they know the definition of insanity and decided to try a new maneuver and a fresh horse to keep the galaxy on their toes and on the defensive.

[utdan]

Inutaisho7996 wrote...

Dreadwing 67 wrote...

The collectors were suppose to take back the citadel with the Human Reaper. Now that all the Reapers are coming, they will use the Citadel to retreat back into Darkspace after they "Reap".

For now, wipe out the homeworlds, then the Citadel will be the final battle.

That's Reaper tactics, they just forgot to include Shepard in the equation.

No. Is was outright stated that they couldn't have been able to succesfully harvest enough humans without getting the attention of the Council.  Attacking a few settlements out in the Terminous Systems is nothing; attacking Council Space is another. The Reapers were already on their way, and the Collectors were just getting a head start.

When was that stated? The only thing i can remember is the comment on the collector ship about there being more pods then terminus colonists. Considering the lack of support from the council when eden prime was attacked in me1 i doubt they'd do too much if the collectors attacked similar colonies on the border of the terminus systems.  

[Leafs43]

Humanity is their greatest threat.

I have a feeling ME3 is gonna go something like:

Reapers attack Earth, cut communication

Shepard goes to the Citadel to ask for help from the council.

The council being the council doesn't believe Shepard.

[KevShep]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Why didn't the Allies go for Berlin first? Making a beeline for a belligerent in a war isn't a good idea, because you take massive casualties on the way if you don't wear them down first.

Berlin did not have relays. On top of that we(allies)  were not highly advanced reapers. If they attack altogether then there may not be any casualties.

[eternalnightmare13]

Malarkey101 wrote...

 I mean the whole reason for the citadel is to have the heads of the major galactic civilisations in the one place, to control the realay network and have records on each species, so surely the reapers would first want to launch an assault there again.

Shepard and the human Alliance defeated Saren, the geth, and most importantly Soverign.  Shepard also defeated the Collectors and destroyed the human reaper and laid waste to their human slushy business.

Shepard, and humanity, is the greatest threat to the Reapers.  Why wouldn't they go after them first?  The rest of the galaxy is small potatoes.