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[Kenzie1100]

XX55XX wrote...

Kenzie1100 wrote...

I think Shepard doing some last stand/ cirten death mission would be okay. But the idea of Shepard shooting himself or whatever seems a bit dumb to me.

Not really. I'm sure Shepard would rather commit suicide rather than be turned into a husk. 

It just seems out of character for him. I would have thought he would have done some sort of last stand, as I said before.

[Quinnzel]

Never. Not. Fighting.
BeardShep doesn't care if the entire galaxy is lost, his LI dead, Anderson turned into a Husk or Conrad Verner becomes the new Harbinger. No matter what you throw at him, he's going to keep fighting. He'd stand on top of a planet, give the oncoming Reaper force the middle finger, shouting at the top of his lungs: "COME AT ME BRO!" before vanguard charging them.

[Chewin]

@Calinstel Why are you pointing fingers at me? I don't want a that kind of ending. Too cliche.

Modifié par Chewin3, 18 juin 2011 - 10:32 .

[XX55XX]

Calinstel wrote...

Chewin3 wrote...

Calinstel wrote...

Just what is this fascination with death? First, it's killing off squad members just because the player can and now trying to kill of Shepard?
I grant you the fact that ME2 allows, through your own morbid decisions, to let parts of your crew and squad die but why? Just because you can you do?

That's why

Lazy answer is lazy. 
You want an ending where Shepard dies?  Just start the game and let the first vorcha kill you.  There.  Such a downer that game was.  Then, actually play the game to win.

Now that's lazy. Why can't we have sad endings? Why must we continually worship success? There is some value to be found even in failure. A deep reflective moment is what ME3 needs. And one of these alternate endings, even if somewhat morbid, can serve that role quite well. 

You don't need to lose - just turn off the bombs or do whatever you need to do before the clock ticks down to zero. 

[arne1234]

Well he could try destroing the citadel. It would be quit the task for the reapers to replace that

[Thepeak12]

That's grim.

[DurkBakala]

No. Shepard isn't a coward.

One of the major themes of ME is survival and how emotion is powerful enough to drive someone into a futile fight against an unstoppable force. Shepard would fight until his/her last breath, even if he/she was the only person left alive.

[Sailears]

The thing is it would only be an optional ending, so if your Shepard has a different personality then you can still choose to go out fighting.
They ought to be all under the banner of "Failure ending" where you are unsuccessful in overcoming the reapers, but you have a further freedom of choice in the way in which this occurs.

[XX55XX]

Curunen wrote...

The thing is it would only be an optional ending, so if your Shepard has a different personality then you can still choose to go out fighting.
They ought to be all under the banner of "Failure ending" where you are unsuccessful in overcoming the reapers, but you have a further freedom of choice in the way in which this occurs.

Exactly. I want a failure option. 

[mineralica]

Two of my chars are already highly doubt the Reapers may be stopped, but this ending may work only for Alyson - John would just drop this hands. So, if the Reapers will methodically wipe down the fleets and planets and there'll be no some kind of base keeping warning to future civilizations for Shepard to protect, it will be talk with crew, leaving everyone who'll prefer to live until the end on the closest suitable planet and final flight of the Normandy.
But if there'll be any chance for saving the galaxy, Alyson will fight. I'm not going to lose my _canon_ char easily

[Senior Cinco]

I don't want a "Kill Myself" ending. Even though my evil Femshep kills everything and everybody she can, she rules the universe and will not go down without a big F you. She kills off her entire crew, all but 2 obviously. But will never take her own life. If she's caught in a fire, well smoke'em if you got'em.

[Hathur]

Calinstel wrote...

If you aspire to play a game to fail, I salute you.  I, on the other hand, play to not fail.
I'm outta here.

On a somewhat related note... replaying ME2 an additional time to see the full failure ending was an amazing experience that I'm glad I did... it's utterly hearbreaking and had me sobbing by the end... can't imagine not having seen / experienced it, one of the most emotional moments in I've felt in games, television or film.

If you haven't seen it, it's worth watching, here's a link if you're interested (obviously, ME2 ending spoilers included) 


That said, I love the fully heroic paragon ending where everyone lives too just as much (not a fan of renegade ending.. I feel dirty)... but that disastrous ending made me really cry and holds a particular ... fondness.. for me (for lack of a better word).

I still get misty eyed watching it. 

Modifié par Hathur, 18 juin 2011 - 10:56 .

[XX55XX]

Senior Cinco wrote...

I don't want a "Kill Myself" ending. Even though my evil Femshep kills everything and everybody she can, she rules the universe and will not go down without a big F you. She kills off her entire crew, all but 2 obviously. But will never take her own life. If she's caught in a fire, well smoke'em if you got'em.

You have your choice then.

My Shepard is a coward, and is fighting the Reapers only to save himself. That isn't bravery at work - it's really fear provoking a heroic response. 

[Recon Member]

I agree that there should be a option for it. It's your Shepard, so it's your choice how you want it to end.

[Son of Illusive Man]

"Commander Shepard, you are indeed very dishnorable. You must now commit seppuku."

But seriously, no...

[Senior Cinco]

XX55XX wrote...

Senior Cinco wrote...

I don't want a "Kill Myself" ending. Even though my evil Femshep kills everything and everybody she can, she rules the universe and will not go down without a big F you. She kills off her entire crew, all but 2 obviously. But will never take her own life. If she's caught in a fire, well smoke'em if you got'em.

You have your choice then.

My Shepard is a coward, and is fighting the Reapers only to save himself. That isn't bravery at work - it's really fear provoking a heroic response. 

HA...You're right. Give me the opt. We're doomed anyway. It will be great to loose everything. I can't wait to see how bad I can actually do.

Why? You ask...Because I'm already playing the worst case scenario, just to see how things play out. It's like playing Fall Out with a low intel character. You play it that way, because you can. Plus the fact it gives great dialog opts.

[No1Codename47]

Something like this would require a hell of a lot of guts from Bioware to give us the option of killing ourselves. It would certainly be something to have Shepard and his squad appear utterly helpless and on the brink of the defeat for the first time ever. I'm not sure how Shepard would react. As he says in the trailer "We fight or we die...." i see Shepard continuing to fight even when all is lost

[Someone With Mass]

You don't make Shepard commit suicide. You make Shepard convince other people to commit suicide for him.

[KainrycKarr]

Optional, only. As long as I have an ending where my Shep and his LI survive, you people can have as much doom and gloom as you please.

[Zaxares]

It's an interesting idea, but if failure to stop the Reapers is an actual ending of the game, I'd prefer for Shepard to go out in a blaze of glory (aka a "Last Stand" or a kamikaze run on Harbinger with the Normandy) rather than by committing suicide.

[TexasToast712]

XX55XX wrote...

The clock ticks to zero.

The last chance for the galaxy is gone. There is still fighting, but the organics of the galaxy have ultimately lost. It is only a matter of time before extinction occurs.

Instead of spawning a gameover prompt, wouldn't it be better to let the player retain control of Shepard for a little longer, get an opportunity to speak to squadmates about the failure to stop the Reapers, and what they might do to survive (or die quietly and peacefully while there is still the chance).

Anyone ever read the Cold War novel "On the Beach?" Yeah, Shepard & Co's final moments should mirror that of the last several chapters of the book. 

Ultimately, the player should be given a choice: Allow Shepard to commit suicide and let the credits roll, or reload from an earlier save. 

Shepard should be given the following options:

1. Digest some cyanide. 
2. Shoot him/herself in the head.
3. Hang him/herself. 
4. Drive the Normandy into Harbinger and give one last "**** you" to the Reapers, with Shepard pointing his/her middle finger at Harbinger just before impact.

No, just stop, I have seen your threads and all of them are filled with stupid ideas. This one is the worst by far.

[Haseeo]

DurkBakala wrote...

No. Shepard isn't a coward.

This that is all.

[Homey C-Dawg]

Self sacrifice? Yes. Shepard is noble.

Suicide? Absolutely not! Shepard is no coward.