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Normandys kinetic barriers in the suicide mission *SPOILERS*


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Rapamaha1

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so yeah, last night when I went to sleep my mind was wandering on all kinds of stuff when I suddenly realized a glich in ME2's last mission, when the drone shoots at Normandy (wich will kill jack without the armor upgrade) the beam hits straight into the hull of the ship and not the barriers, later on when joker decides to fly trough debris field EDI says "barriers are not...." point being that barriers were actually "ON" so.... discuss

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SandTrout

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The weapons used by the Occuli were directed energy weapons, and thereby bypassed kinetic barriers, which only operate against high-velocity matter.

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Then upgrading the shields is pointless since the Collector's main weapon is a particle beam.

Unless the shields prevent the ship's starboard wing from being sheared off when it impacts the base's greebling (Greebling is all the little "pointless" boxes and antenna that decorate a ship's hull).

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Katamariguy

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The shields stop a squaddie from dying from reactor overload. I have no idea why hitting slow moving debris damages the shields.

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Bogsnot1

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If you have no idea about that, then you would have no idea why a "slow moving brick wall" damages a car that ploughs into it at 50 mph.
Hint: It has a lot to do with mass, and inertia.

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Bogsnot1 wrote...

If you have no idea about that, then you would have no idea why a "slow moving brick wall" damages a car that ploughs into it at 50 mph.
Hint: It has a lot to do with mass, and inertia.

LOL for the physics win.

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Asheer_Khan

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As far as i remember from ME viki and other sources energy based weapons and shields are almost non egsistend in ME Universe.

Of course there is Collector particle beam and some Geth energy weapons but that's all so i would say that in ME world even Enterprise from ST ToS would become more dangerous for any ship there than entire Reapers fleet since her phasers would go through kinetic barriers like Lightsaber through butter.

And no Collector Cruiser didn't use energy weapon but another variation of tannix gun that's why if barriers are upgraded they whitstand direct hit from that beam.

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Smeelia

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GARDIAN lasers aren't blocked by kinetic barriers, it's possible that the Occulus uses a laser of some sort rather than the same type of weapon that the Collector Ship uses (which is probably similar to the Thanix Cannon).

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Katamariguy

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SandTrout wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...

If you have no idea about that, then you would have no idea why a "slow moving brick wall" damages a car that ploughs into it at 50 mph.
Hint: It has a lot to do with mass, and inertia.

LOL for the physics win.


The Codex:

Kinetic barriers are repulsive mass effect fields projected from tiny emitters. These shields safely deflect small objects traveling at rapid velocities. This affords protection from bullets and other dangerous projectiles, but still allows the user to sit down without knocking away their chair.


You fail.

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LuxDragon

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Objects at rapid velocities... so, is it the Normandy that's easily going faster than sound or the slow moving crap it had to plow through at that speed?

The objects might not have been moving, but Normandy was. I'm thinking the barriers can't tell the difference.

No fails here.

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Bogsnot1

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Katamariguy wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...
If you have no idea about that, then you would have no idea why a "slow moving brick wall" damages a car that ploughs into it at 50 mph.
Hint: It has a lot to do with mass, and inertia.

LOL for the physics win.

The Codex:
Kinetic barriers are repulsive mass effect fields projected from tiny emitters. These shields safely deflect small objects traveling at rapid velocities. This affords protection from bullets and other dangerous projectiles, but still allows the user to sit down without knocking away their chair.

You fail.


Either the debris was in geosynchronous orbit around the black hole, or was being held stationary by mass effec tfields. Either way, they had relativistic velocities.
The only failure here is your comprehension of physics.

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Also, that codex entry applies to personal shields, not ship shields. When dealing with space travel, it is not necessary to worry about interacting with your environment at the low velocities, so the shields would be calibrated to deflect all incoming mass, not just high velocity stuff. Normandy's improved shields are designed specifically to counter larger-mass objects than normal ship's shields

Modifié par SandTrout, 21 juin 2011 - 04:29 .


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SandTrout wrote...

Also, that codex entry applies to personal shields, not ship shields. When dealing with space travel, it is not necessary to worry about interacting with your environment at the low velocities, so the shields would be calibrated to deflect all incoming mass, not just high velocity stuff. Normandy's improved shields are designed specifically to counter larger-mass objects than normal ship's shields

It doesn't really matter either way since the codex entry for the shield upgrade (CBT) strongly suggests that it is made significantly more effective against any impact, including slow moving objects.