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Is Ashley Still your girl?
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#52
Geschrieben 08 Juli 2011 - 07:49
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She never was nor will she be. Horizon made me mad, but that's got nothing to do it. I do not hate her though.
#53
Geschrieben 08 Juli 2011 - 07:53
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Well...for the one Shep that romances her he's running to someone else in ME2...so...nope. She's completely free to be her own woman.
Times changed things fell apart, Shep died and was brought back to life by an awesome and brilliant woman who he fell in love with and yeah.
Times changed things fell apart, Shep died and was brought back to life by an awesome and brilliant woman who he fell in love with and yeah.
#54
Geschrieben 08 Juli 2011 - 07:55
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Sex-sex-talk-sex-ENDGAME-sexSiansonea II wrote...
Good points! I'm looking forward to seeing what happens. Honestly, I would love it if Shepard has to 'win her back'—especially if it's not as easy as talk-talk-talk-sex, like it has been in previous games.
#55
Geschrieben 08 Juli 2011 - 07:58
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Ashley is the most practical LI and companion for Shepard in my opinion. In ME 1 alot of people claim that Ash is racist, but she's just looking at the situation from a practical point of view. I understand being cautious around non-Alliance crew members on the Normandy. Although, in the time since we all came to trust and respect our alien crew members; Ash's viewpoints were valid in my opinion. Next she's not a whiner, she handles her business and freely offers Shepard her opinions and support. I like Ash! She's got the right stuff. My Shep is waiting on her in ME 3!!
#58
Geschrieben 08 Juli 2011 - 11:29
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LOL!Bachi1230 wrote...
Ash you still my girl?
Yeah she still my girl...
#59
Geschrieben 08 Juli 2011 - 11:50
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knightnblu wrote...
I have been pondering that for a while now. Consider if you will, the following:
1. Ashley has been foot loose and fancy free for two years
2. She honestly believed that Shepard had gone to the great beyond
3. She mourned Shepard like she mourned her father
If all three assertions are true, then how likely is it that Ash would pine for you until the day that she died herself? Most people would move on after they had grieved, and Ash has even admitted that she has not thought about your romance for a year. Those who romanced Ashley will likely not enjoy hearing this, but if she honestly believed you were dead, why wouldn't she move on and date somebody else?
As an NCO Ashley is around fit, young, military men who view the world like she does. It is essentially a target rich environment for a healthy female and it has been my experience that military personnel of both genders like to blow off steam with physical diversions from time to time. Garrus being a case in point with his "I had reach, but she had flexibility." So who's to say that Ash hasn't found a certain special someone to heal that hole in her heart?
If so, would it really be so strange that she gave you the cold shoulder on Horizon? Perhaps she did not so much see the return of an old flame, but the emergence of a new problem. Even her apology leads to doubt.
When she said that she had changed and so had Shepard, what did that mean? Almost everyone who read that took it to mean that she had changed emotionally, but what if it meant something more? Even when she addressed you as skipper, she did it hesitantly. Like she was holding something back. When she spoke of her love for you, it was in the past tense. What does she feel now?
She has even achieved a measure of success on her own. She has become a Spectre, been promoted to Lieutenant, and she certainly now has much more confidence in her abilities. Will she be a friend or rival Spectre? More importantly, is she still your girl or is she someone else's?
i think you have it all wrong she pauses try to imagine you have a close friend and you them i dunno buggie and you have a massive falling out then you make up you would say hi...buggie do you understand what im trying to say? i think your reading too much into it, not everything has to be connected or make sense some things just happen
#60
Geschrieben 08 Juli 2011 - 09:42
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Do things occur for absolutely no reason other than "just because?" I think that is a true statement, but such occurrences are rare and among human beings, rarer still. Essentially, Williams is trying to say that she is sorry that she melted down on Horizon, but she is conspicuously silent as to her feelings about/for you. She does mention that she has begun thinking about the past, but nothing more.
There is nothing in her lukewarm apology that indicates that she either has or has not found someone new. I just mention it as a distinct possibility. She does say that she is not the same person that she was, but what does that mean? She reads more? She has learned how to play chess? Or does it mean that she is no longer foot loose and fancy free? All that is known is that some change has taken place and everything else is pure speculation.
I contend that it was something of significance given her overreaction on Horizon. Add that to the fact that of Wrex, Liara, Tali, and Garrus, she is the only one who called you a traitor. There is only one reason to think that Ashley would think this: she no longer trusts you.
Therefore, I see her as a wild card and a potential problem for ME3. Truth is, there is something not right with her judgment and until we know why, I can no longer trust her.
There is nothing in her lukewarm apology that indicates that she either has or has not found someone new. I just mention it as a distinct possibility. She does say that she is not the same person that she was, but what does that mean? She reads more? She has learned how to play chess? Or does it mean that she is no longer foot loose and fancy free? All that is known is that some change has taken place and everything else is pure speculation.
I contend that it was something of significance given her overreaction on Horizon. Add that to the fact that of Wrex, Liara, Tali, and Garrus, she is the only one who called you a traitor. There is only one reason to think that Ashley would think this: she no longer trusts you.
Therefore, I see her as a wild card and a potential problem for ME3. Truth is, there is something not right with her judgment and until we know why, I can no longer trust her.
#61
Geschrieben 08 Juli 2011 - 09:44
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Ashley is still welcome to my (Shepard's) fist in her face. *renegade interrupt*
#62
Geschrieben 08 Juli 2011 - 09:50
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Addai67 wrote...
Ashley is still welcome to my (Shepard's) fist in her face. *renegade interrupt*
*wants that interrupt*
#63
Geschrieben 08 Juli 2011 - 10:13
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Still my girl, flaws and all. Nice to have a human that's neither perfect nor a total a**hole. I got tired of perfect blue aliens about 2 hours into James Cameron's avatar...
#64
Geschrieben 08 Juli 2011 - 11:11
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Well, there's some competition from Tali on that front (absence makes the heart wander and so forth), but yeah, I still love her despite it all. Her and Garrus will be resuming their rightful roles as Shepard's A-Team, and the Cerberus supermodels and blue space elves can go **** themselves.
#65
Geschrieben 08 Juli 2011 - 11:30
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I have no doubt she probably got jiggy with someone else sometime in the span of two years. That being said as long as she currently is not in a long term relationship there is nothing that would stop her from getting back with Shepard again. They were together for a good month so one would assume they weren't terrible together.
#66
Geschrieben 08 Juli 2011 - 11:38
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Always was always will be.
#67
Geschrieben 09 Juli 2011 - 12:18
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Addai67 wrote...
Ashley is still welcome to my (Shepard's) fist in her face. *renegade interrupt*
No, that should be a Paragon interrupt.
VS: You broke my heart!
Shepard: (Paragon) And I'm going to break your face
VS: You broke my heart
Shepard: You're lucky that's all that's broken because I have a serious case of "Foot-to-Ass" diease! Shall I demonstrate?"
#69
Geschrieben 09 Juli 2011 - 12:33
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Quole wrote...
Ashley is dead.
Heads up, Quole the Troll has returned.
#70
Geschrieben 09 Juli 2011 - 12:41
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the real troll is clearly you. I suggest you leave now and save yourself the embarassment.Made Nightwing wrote...
Quole wrote...
Ashley is dead.
Heads up, Quole the Troll has returned.
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Geschrieben 09 Juli 2011 - 04:50
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She's changed. Improved. Sovereign has...upgraded her.
On a more serious note, Ashley was never "someone's girl." She tells you flat out that she "doesn't need a man to make her happy." The character isn't defined by who that character sleeps with. It's definitely not the most important aspect of personality.
Did Ashley date someone else? Possibly, but that's not the most important thing. She tells you she moved on. She tells you she "loved" you, past tense. She calls you a traitor in your face - after everything you've done for humanity and the galaxy, after everything you continue to do. We can't know her exact feelings, but they don't matter, for actions speak louder than words, and she makes her choice on Horizon. This is exactly the case where the relationship becomes more pain than it's worth - unless you're into suffering.
It happens with relationships. Words are exchanged, and then one of the parties says or does something that can never be erased or undone. It becomes a point of no return. A breaking point. After that, it becomes easier to grow a new one than to fix the old one, so to speak. It's the matter of costs and benefits.
Shepard and Ashley probably could, if they really wanted to, get past Horizon, but that would take too much emotional reserves that would be better off spent on something else, like a war effort, or a more rewarding relationship that's not burdened with dark past and not poisoned with heavy accusations. And even after that, Horizon could never be erased completely. It would be much easier, faster, and more rewarding to build a completely new relationship with a different person from stratch.
The question is not whether or not Ashley still wants Shepard. The question is whether or not your Shepard still wants her. Shepard deserves much better than this. He deserves someone who trusts him and appreciates him, and who will stand by him in his darkest hour. He deserves someone he can trust.
There are millions humans in the galaxy, there are hundreds of elite soldiers among them, and among those, there would be dozens who respect Shepard and defend his name when it's being smeared by the Alliance. Shepard even met one such person on his ship - two, if you count Jacob. I see no reason whatsoever to stick with someone who doubts you, insults you, and inflicts pain upon you.
"Never let your enemies see your weakness. You know that, Admiral." (Shepard to Septimus.)
On a more serious note, Ashley was never "someone's girl." She tells you flat out that she "doesn't need a man to make her happy." The character isn't defined by who that character sleeps with. It's definitely not the most important aspect of personality.
Did Ashley date someone else? Possibly, but that's not the most important thing. She tells you she moved on. She tells you she "loved" you, past tense. She calls you a traitor in your face - after everything you've done for humanity and the galaxy, after everything you continue to do. We can't know her exact feelings, but they don't matter, for actions speak louder than words, and she makes her choice on Horizon. This is exactly the case where the relationship becomes more pain than it's worth - unless you're into suffering.
It happens with relationships. Words are exchanged, and then one of the parties says or does something that can never be erased or undone. It becomes a point of no return. A breaking point. After that, it becomes easier to grow a new one than to fix the old one, so to speak. It's the matter of costs and benefits.
Shepard and Ashley probably could, if they really wanted to, get past Horizon, but that would take too much emotional reserves that would be better off spent on something else, like a war effort, or a more rewarding relationship that's not burdened with dark past and not poisoned with heavy accusations. And even after that, Horizon could never be erased completely. It would be much easier, faster, and more rewarding to build a completely new relationship with a different person from stratch.
The question is not whether or not Ashley still wants Shepard. The question is whether or not your Shepard still wants her. Shepard deserves much better than this. He deserves someone who trusts him and appreciates him, and who will stand by him in his darkest hour. He deserves someone he can trust.
There are millions humans in the galaxy, there are hundreds of elite soldiers among them, and among those, there would be dozens who respect Shepard and defend his name when it's being smeared by the Alliance. Shepard even met one such person on his ship - two, if you count Jacob. I see no reason whatsoever to stick with someone who doubts you, insults you, and inflicts pain upon you.
"Never let your enemies see your weakness. You know that, Admiral." (Shepard to Septimus.)
Bearbeitet von laecraft, 09 Juli 2011 - 04:56 .
#72
Geschrieben 09 Juli 2011 - 05:27
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PrinceLionheart wrote...
Always was always will be.
Well said.
Answer to a question - Yes, she is still my girl:lol:
Bearbeitet von Paul_Grayson, 09 Juli 2011 - 05:30 .
#74
Geschrieben 09 Juli 2011 - 05:34
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No she's not my girl.
She's my woman.
She's my woman.
#75
Geschrieben 09 Juli 2011 - 05:46
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Yes, at least for one of my main Sheps. All the others are True Blue:devil:
