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While Shepard is a spectre and as such any action he takes is outside of alliance control, the reason i say his status is irrelvant in Ash's mind is because of how she sees him.
He's her skipper, her commander, like her he's alliance through and through, he may be a spectre but to Ash he still and always will be first and foremost an alliance soldier.
Its partly down to the circumstances they first met under, partly because despite being a spectre he commanded the normandy an alliance ship and partly because he takes his cues from people like Anderson and Hackett.
Apart from perhaps saving the destiny ascension up til now he's put alliance/humanity first, yes he's done the council's bidding and gone against the alliance when neccessary. yes he may believe that alien/human relations are ultra important and that humanity needs the aliens as much as they need humanity.
But first and foremost he is human, alliance, and so far he's not shown any real direct conflict between his role as a spectre and an alliance soldier, so when that conflict comes up its this role not his spectre one which causes the problem.
Its not the fact he's a spectre or that he's possibly working on orders that Ash knows nothing about, more its the fact that as an alliance soldier he's doing something which seems to contradict his role in the alliance.
Cerberus are considered terrorists by the alliance, they're even believed to be behind the colony disappearances, Shepard working with them for whatever reason even if it was because of his role as a spectre would put him in direct opposition to the alliance, which would contradict his role as an alliance soldier.
Since Ash believes him to be like her alliance through and through and since working with cerberus would be going against the alliance then whether or not he's a spectre or not isn't the problem, its whether or not he's no longer alliance if you get me.
I don't consider that metagaming because it doesn't rely on any facts or info that isn't available during horizon.
In terms of how Ash reacts to Shepard and why emotion plays a part, well i've addressed it above in depth.
But the fact that she's a combat vet, an nco doesn't preclude her emotions being a problem, just because a specific situation or set of circumstances causes you to be under emotional duress doesn't mean that your always emotionally compromised.
Shepard in mass effect is the emotional protagonist for everyone not just Ash, without him Jack would never have been able to get closure, Miranda would never have spoken to her sister etc.
Shepard is the person who forces people to deal with their emotional baggage, he melts the ice queens heart if you want him to when dealing with miranda, he shows jack people can care about her if that's how you decide to play it, he allows garrus to put aside his desire for revenge if that's your wish.
He forces people to confront themselves and to deal with their issues thereby forcing a change in that person, the jack you meet in the beginning of me2 is a much different person than the one at the end and so on with the rest of the characters.
It's because of this role though that anything concerning Shepard will then also bring out the more emotional aspects of a characters personality, its why miranda goes from only caring about Shepard getting the job done to caring about Shepard's survival and shepard himself.
With Ash romanced or not pre shepard she kept most of her emotions in check, its only because she meets Shepard that emotionally she opens up and its Shepard who's the catalyst for that.
So when Shepard's involved emotionally Ash is much more open than when he's not, its why she's upset at Kaiden's death but almost devasted by Shepard's, simply because the emotional connection is that much stronger, so the reactions would also be that much more powerful.
If you had an aquaintance who did you wrong it would upset you, if it was your best friend or someone you loved it would be so much worse, it increases the more you care about the person.
So when you say she abandon's her investigation and never asks the questions she should, the reason she does so is because at this time in this situation the mistaken belief i mention in the previous post coupled with Shepard's involvement lead to her being emotionally compromised.
You may consider yourself logically based, someone who can put aside their emotions and handle a situation unemotionally and for the vast majority of your life do exactly that, but in certain situations you'd find that you'd be unable to do so.
If your faced with a situation where you've lost someone under your command then you could rely on all the training and experience you have, if your faced with a situation where you've lost someone you deeply care about or love then you'd be emotionally compromised, Would it matter if you were a Vet or what rank you'd acheived, absolutely not.
Two years and what it means.
Its not so much that i believe in 2 years Shepard has changed so what he was previously isn't that important.
More its that we have a specific set of circumstances that when added together with certain things can lead someone to believe he's changed or force them to question their own knowledge of who that person is and what they stand for.
1. the perception his death and resurrection bring.
In my view this calls into question Shepard's character and what he stands for.
which leads to.
2. working with cerberus
Which seemingly goes against everything he believes in and fought for and leads to
3. knowledge that outside interests can change people (indoctrination,thorian,cerberus).
Which reinforces the idea that he may not be the same person he used to be or has changed somehow and leads to
4. rumours of his activities during the seperation from Ash.
Seemingly proof that this was true and leads to
5.knowledge of cerberus and what they stand for/lengths they'll go to.
A realisation that nothing shepard can say can be taken on faith.
Arrival.
I've said previously that once the factor of Shepard's death and resurrection are taken from the equation then events on horizon may have played out differently, once you've removed the mistaken belief everything else becomes easier to accept.
For example, if Shepard had not died and not been missing for 2 years and had simply been away on a spectre mission while Ash was sent on her own to horizon, if he had then turned up working with cerberus and said what he said, then imo Ash would more than likely have accepted his explanations because she would still have complete faith in Shepard.
Just like with the stealing of the normandy or with the council refusing to believe in reapers, Shepard would have been able to put his case forward to her and i believe she'd have accepted it on its merits on on Shepards word.
Since the original mistaken belief cannot occur again, shepard won't die or be gone for 2 years and even if he did, it would not be a unique situation, then when faced with questions regarding Shepard's actions the outcome would be completely different.
So while you think the actions on Horizon make Ash less trustworthy and therby call her future trustfulness into question, i disagree because the situation cannot be faced again.
Modifié par alperez, 26 octobre 2011 - 04:02 .
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