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"Now that's an enticing thought!" (Kelly Chambers support thread)


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I thought it had something to do with grunt... the line doesn't show up till after you go and recruit okeer.

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Errol Dnamyx

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GuiltySource wrote...

Was it actually said the Kelly spread the scale itch? Or is it just assumed because of the stripper thing?


Kelly can't spread scale itch.

Hint: Female Humans don't have scales.

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Errol Dnamyx wrote...

GuiltySource wrote...

Was it actually said the Kelly spread the scale itch? Or is it just assumed because of the stripper thing?


Kelly can't spread scale itch.

Hint: Female Humans don't have scales.


I have it on good authority that female humans are actually distantly related to iguanas.

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jamesp81 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

I hope to have Kelly back. Kelly and Jacob were the only two on the whole ship who were reasonably well adjusted. Everyone else was borderline crazy.


You mean "dark and edgy," right?


No, I mean borderline crazy.

Zaeed: heartless killer
Legion: AI war machine (guess he's not crazy though)
Samara: Epic dysfunctional family issues with daugher being an insane serial killer.  Bottles up her emotions too much.

Tali: Issues stem from being unjustly accused of treason, survivor's guilt, and having her father murdered
Mordin: Emotional crisis over the genophage
Garrus: Survivor's guilt, rage over Sidonis
Miranda: existential issues stemming from her origins and major league daddy issues.
Grunt: Existential issues stemming from his origins and feelings of being an outcast.
Thane: Dysfunctional family issues
Jack: Do I even need to go into detail here?
Kasumi: Actually fairly stable.  Still, she makes a living stealing other people's stuff, survivor's guilt over her lover.
Shepard: died and was 'resurrected'.  Has seen more death and horror than anyone else alive.

I meant exactly what I said.  Almost all of these people are broken in some way.  It's not really their fault, as they've all been through a lot.  I was just pointing out that Kelly and Jacob are about the only ones who have managed to hold everything completely together.  Jacob even isn't harmed by finding what his father had done.  He was so well grounded in what he believed and what he knew was right that he came through it just fine.

I'd throw in psuedo-religious zealotry for Samara, responsibility avoidance with Thane, kleptomania for Kasumi.


But yeah. The fact that Jacob just needs Shepard as a taxi driver, rather than to make Important Life Decisions for him, really was a welcome change. Who knew the boredome of an emotionally stable, ethically healthy person could be so stark a contrast?


Here's to hoping Kelly gets some character development in ME3. And preferably something other than cotten-candy flirting.

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Kelly is the best "romance" option out of all the human female LIs. It's too bad she's reduced to mere flirting and an extremely ambiguous date.

Ms. Chambers ftw.

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You know what an intelligent councilor really could have done for Shepard?

Provide de-facto counseling by allowing Shepard to justify themselves and their decisions in a private setting. It could have been an awesome context to develop Shepard's character and views: "So Shepard, what do you think of destroying the genocide cure?" "It was easy/it was hard because..."

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Dean_the_Young wrote...

You know what an intelligent councilor really could have done for Shepard?

Provide de-facto counseling by allowing Shepard to justify themselves and their decisions in a private setting. It could have been an awesome context to develop Shepard's character and views: "So Shepard, what do you think of destroying the genocide cure?" "It was easy/it was hard because..."


That would have been superb. That would have given her more of a role than just being a human VI.

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KELLY! GET IN MAH BELLY!

Ahaha, but she is vurry cool!

And now in welsh:

Dwi'n meddwl bod Kelly yn blasus iawn! Ac mae'n hi'n ddoniol hefyd!

I bet that was the first time you read welsh, eh? What do you think? Impressed?
Good Luck and Stay Safe

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It would have been some of the most extensive redundant dialogue in the series so far (pretty much three justifications Big Decision: Paragon, Neutral, Renegade), but I think it would have been well worth it. Heck, you could even scrap the neutral and give a Paragon/Renegade defense for ANY action, like for those 'I'm a Renegade but I did Paragon act because...'

And then you could have light-flirting spread thin over a number of cases, rather than heavy on a few.


So, to take an example of Jacob's Loyalty Mission:


Kelly: Commander, I heard you... you left Ronald Taylor to the mercies of the hunters. Do you mind telling me why you chose that?

Paragon: What he did to those people... it wasn't my place to stop them. I'd like to think I might have reacted differently, but I couldn't deny it to them.
Neutral: I'd rather not talk about it.
Renegade: What he did was a betrayal of their trust and his responsibility. He deserved to reap what he sowed.

Kelly: I understand. What he did... (shivers) it's frightening to think about. He wasn't even an especially bad man, when the accident happened. It's frightening to think about what could happen to any of us. I mean, I know you wouldn't, but-

(Flirting, Paragon) I'd never let anything happen to you, Kelly.
(Flirting, Renegade) You'd make it hard for me to resist, Ms. Chambers.

Kelly: (Slightly flustered, but happy) I, uh, thank you Commander. Anyways, about those messages-

(Non Flirting) I'd never let my crew come to that.

Kelly: (Professional) We all have faith in you, Commander. About those messages...

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Dean_the_Young wrote...

You know what an intelligent councilor really could have done for Shepard?

Provide de-facto counseling by allowing Shepard to justify themselves and their decisions in a private setting. It could have been an awesome context to develop Shepard's character and views: "So Shepard, what do you think of destroying the genocide cure?" "It was easy/it was hard because..."


It's posts like these that make me sigh and send my mind into What If land.

Modifié par Ultai, 21 juin 2011 - 09:53 .


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@Dean_the_Young

I concur. Your words are sage council, you wise man you!

Good Luck and Stay Safe

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Showing my support for Kelly as a ME3 LI.

She really is the most well-written and real romance yet (:

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It is nice that this exceptional Kelly Chambers fanfic has recently been updated:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6326155/6/

The story appears to be well thought out and not merely some stream of consciousness on the part of the author.

It is stories like this that helps pass the time until Mass Effect 3 is finally delivered.

Modifié par DrSpoonbender, 24 août 2011 - 06:01 .


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DrSpoonbender wrote...

It is nice that this exceptional Kelly Chambers fanfic has recently been updated:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6326155/6/

The story appears to be well thought out and not merely some stream of consciousness on the part of the author.

It is stories like this that helps pass the time until Mass Effect 3 is finally delivered.


Thanks for plugging my work again Doc. :) Was away for a while with wrist and hand issues, but I'm back and, quite honestly, surprised that people are still following my work.

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Has there been any updates about Kelly's inclusion into ME3? All I've seen is that she's going to be there, if the compilation thread is of any indication.

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Volus Warlord wrote...

Is it wrong to say I kinda enjoyed Kelly getting melted down in a pot?

thats kinda messed up bro.

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GuiltySource wrote...

Was it actually said the Kelly spread the scale itch? Or is it just assumed because of the stripper thing?


No. People got it from her saying: "Passion is nice wherever you find it and intimacy brings understanding.",  then they put two and two together and got Varren.

on-topic: I'm hoping Kelly returns in ME3 as a more official LI.

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Would the Alliance have need of Kelly's skills on the Normandy? Even Shepard can mention that a VI could accomplish most of her tasks and unless she's refined her psychology to a more professional level, there would be argument for a more experienced mental physician.
Still, I do want to see Kelly around more. And developed further. She was the only LI for my renegade Shepard.

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PrimalEden wrote...

Would the Alliance have need of Kelly's skills on the Normandy? Even Shepard can mention that a VI could accomplish most of her tasks and unless she's refined her psychology to a more professional level, there would be argument for a more experienced mental physician.
Still, I do want to see Kelly around more. And developed further. She was the only LI for my renegade Shepard.


I really wished they took advantage of that and had optional shrink sessions with Kelly for whatever origin and mentality you had.

I mean, Earthborn would have Shepard talk about the difficulties in working for the Tenth Street Reds.

Colonist Shepard would allow her to get over the ghosts of when Mindoir was raided.

Space Shepard... well, I don't know.  That seems to be the most well adjusted, unless it's an extreme military brat situation.

And the whole Lone Survivor, Hero, Butcher scenarios have huge conversation potential all their own!

Coincidentally, how would a renegade Shepard romance Kelly?  Most renegade options have you turning her down.

Modifié par IliyaMoroumetz, 18 octobre 2011 - 04:10 .


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Double post, sorry.

Modifié par IliyaMoroumetz, 18 octobre 2011 - 04:11 .


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I would like to see Kelly back; if not as a major LI, at least as a bigger NPC. It was nice to have someone on the ship to talk to besides Joker that you weren't also taking on missions. Kind of a Troi vibe if you watched The Next Generation. I could easily see her leaving Cerebus to stay with Shepherd (if you saved her)and being his adjutant or advisor, or what have you. Give her some easter egg interactions; if you romanced her in ME2 or if you have a new LI in ME3 and you're trying to rekindle with her; there could be a lot of fun to be had there.

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dreadpiratesnugglecakes wrote...

I would like to see Kelly back; if not as a major LI, at least as a bigger NPC. It was nice to have someone on the ship to talk to besides Joker that you weren't also taking on missions. Kind of a Troi vibe if you watched The Next Generation. I could easily see her leaving Cerebus to stay with Shepherd (if you saved her)and being his adjutant or advisor, or what have you. Give her some easter egg interactions; if you romanced her in ME2 or if you have a new LI in ME3 and you're trying to rekindle with her; there could be a lot of fun to be had there.


Heh, speaking of Troi, I can't hear Benezia without hearing Troi. Same actress and all, and... oh gosh, they sound identical.

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JeffZero wrote...


Heh, speaking of Troi, I can't hear Benezia without hearing Troi. Same actress and all, and... oh gosh, they sound identical.


I had only just recently started watching TNG before I made that connection. Now I cant seperate the two.

I've never had Kelly "feed my fish," but I really do like having her on the Normandy. It's nice having a cheerful person that can see the brightside in something or someone. Beyond that I think the flirty atmosphere is a bit like the relationship between James Bond and Moneypenny. 
 
Can't say anything negative about her really...she's aces

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JeffZero wrote..

Heh, speaking of Troi, I can't hear Benezia without hearing Troi. Same actress and all, and... oh gosh, they sound identical.

When I first played through ME1, I couldn't help but get this nagging feeling that I heard Benezia's voice somewhere before, but then, when I finally beat it, I realized that it was Marina Certis(?) and it made me happy.  Glad to see she's still getting work nowadays.

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Once again, I'd love to see Kelly back as a LI. Extremely friendly/loyal, compassionate about your well being, and is willing to get you off on a moment's notice because you know...your character saw tons of death, had to deal with an incompetent council/ rouge Spectre/tons of killing machines (Geth)/saving the Citadel and the universe from Sovereign, got killed after being spaced by Collectors, revived and later totally disrepected/branded a traitor by the very same incompetent council (should you choose to save them yet they still deny the existence of the Reapers...the council may as well have spat on Shepard), kept on a need to know basis from the mastermind of a human elitist organization who later stabs you in the back, having to constantly put yourself into life or death situations, having to occasionally talk to racist asari/krogan/human/turian/etc. to get something done, having one of your teammates who helped you take out Saren/Sovereign just say "Screw you" and not even recognizing the problem at hand...despite being temporarily held victim to it and miraculously not abducted, having to put up with drama from most of your squad (and people wanna bash Jacob for being a level headed hardened soldier who saved the Citadel? He should be hailed as a hero just like Shepard.), having random people in the Terminus systems (namely batarians) disrespect you despite your Spectre status plus you saving the universe from extinction by the Reapers, and so on/so forth I'd say the flirtatuousness of Kelly is VERY welcome.

Like Chakwas said, all of the stuff Shepard went through would normally break a person and I feel like Shepard being playful with Kelly (even if it isn't professional) is the best thing he can do to alleviate some of that stress. So when ME3 drops in stores, Kelly better get ready for another rollercoaster ride in the Shepard theme park. (Where's Quagmire when I need him?)

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Sorry for the lengthy post, just had to get that off of my chest.