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So I worked with this one girl for about 4 years at a local grocery store. She was 4 years older than me (I was 17 when I first started) and she thought that me skateboarding and dying my hair and all that was so awesome she literally was one of my biggest fans. Well she used to buy me beer and all that when I wasn't 21 and she always invited me over to her place to hang out, play XBOX, drink etc.. She has a son who has to be around 8 or 9 now and stayed with her son's dad (they never married) and wow was that guy a jerk. She had it rough with him he wasn't the biggest guy around and would occassionally hit her. Now I did stand up a few times but after awhile I said to myself "well why does she keep going back?". Then here comes the WTF moment. One night when I was over (it was just her there) she told me about how she always liked me and was happy around me but there was something that I should know. I didn't know what to expect so she sets down here drink and says "well the reason why I am still with HIM is that well I got into some bad, bad things. I replied with the usual "huh?" and then she said "I used to do ALOT of pills and well I ended up shooting up and had to go to rehab a few times and the reason why he hits me is because he keeps finding my oxy's" I was like wow I am so glad I never even so much as kissed her (not that she wasn't bad looking, but needles = disease MOST, not all, of the time. I was freaked out but told her I was proud that she went to rehab and didn't shoot up (I knew she still did pills but I figured it was a few vicodin or something else relatively weaker than oxycontin.) and we went on to have more drinks then I left and went home. I continued to know her through work, though I stopped hanging out with her, until I got a full time big boy job and moved on with my life. It must have been at least 5 years since I have seen her. Last Monday I get a call from another girl that we had both worked with (I kept in better touch with her, but only as a friend). I answer the phone like "wow hey Mandy what's going on I haven't heard from you in awhile?" to which she replies "well Mark, I just read in the newspaper that Bonnie died two days ago. She got out of a rehab clinic about two weeks ago and was found by her parents on her bed dead. They are saying that the cause of death is a heart attack but I'm not soo sure, she only did downers not uppers but with how much she used to do and how much she smoked who knows what really happened. Yeah its making me sad for her son, for not beating the crap out of her boyfriend (drugs or not you don't hit a girl) and for losing contact with her (which was really weird because I got into a conversation with someone about her about two months ago). But I do not not feel that bad for her I mean we all choose our own paths right? I didn't want anything bad to ever happen to her but it did and well it was her
fault, her choice. Am I cold hearted or realistic? Well that is my rant everyone.


Lesson learned - Yes drugs can kill you and ruin your life. 

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ForumPortal wrote...

So I worked with this one girl for about 4 years at a local grocery store. She was 4 years older than me (I was 17 when I first started) and she thought that me skateboarding and dying my hair and all that was so awesome she literally was one of my biggest fans. Well she used to buy me beer and all that when I wasn't 21 and she always invited me over to her place to hang out, play XBOX, drink etc.. She has a son who has to be around 8 or 9 now and stayed with her son's dad (they never married) and wow was that guy a jerk. She had it rough with him he wasn't the biggest guy around and would occassionally hit her. Now I did stand up a few times but after awhile I said to myself "well why does she keep going back?". Then here comes the WTF moment. One night when I was over (it was just her there) she told me about how she always liked me and was happy around me but there was something that I should know. I didn't know what to expect so she sets down here drink and says "well the reason why I am still with HIM is that well I got into some bad, bad things. I replied with the usual "huh?" and then she said "I used to do ALOT of pills and well I ended up shooting up and had to go to rehab a few times and the reason why he hits me is because he keeps finding my oxy's" I was like wow I am so glad I never even so much as kissed her (not that she wasn't bad looking, but needles = disease MOST, not all, of the time. I was freaked out but told her I was proud that she went to rehab and didn't shoot up (I knew she still did pills but I figured it was a few vicodin or something else relatively weaker than oxycontin.) and we went on to have more drinks then I left and went home. I continued to know her through work, though I stopped hanging out with her, until I got a full time big boy job and moved on with my life. It must have been at least 5 years since I have seen her. Last Monday I get a call from another girl that we had both worked with (I kept in better touch with her, but only as a friend). I answer the phone like "wow hey Mandy what's going on I haven't heard from you in awhile?" to which she replies "well Mark, I just read in the newspaper that Bonnie died two days ago. She got out of a rehab clinic about two weeks ago and was found by her parents on her bed dead. They are saying that the cause of death is a heart attack but I'm not soo sure, she only did downers not uppers but with how much she used to do and how much she smoked who knows what really happened. Yeah its making me sad for her son, for not beating the crap out of her boyfriend (drugs or not you don't hit a girl) and for losing contact with her (which was really weird because I got into a conversation with someone about her about two months ago). But I do not not feel that bad for her I mean we all choose our own paths right? I didn't want anything bad to ever happen to her but it did and well it was her
fault, her choice. Am I cold hearted or realistic? Well that is my rant everyone.


Lesson learned - Yes drugs can kill you and ruin your life. 


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Then why did you post a response?

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ForumPortal wrote...

Then why did you post a response?


To state a factI don't care.

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However, I will say that your experience is not uncommon these days, people make choices that affect their lives, and all you can do about this situation is move on, and look to the future

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I agree with your conclusion ForumPortal. Drugs, cigarettes to me are like population control. They help clean up the less desirable segments of humanity.  I would not have felt even a sliver of remorse under such circumstances.

Even though I would never ever even consider smoking, people who actually are foolish to make the decision to smoke or do drugs have my full support to continue doing so.

No really, keep doing it.  Stick it to the man, show those hippies who is boss!  Smoke, and smoke some more.  Don't stop, keep doing it!  You have my blessings.

Modifié par Turnip Root, 19 juin 2011 - 03:45 .


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Sorry about your friend.

Ain't none of us perfect. Some people have addictive personalities. Your friend sounds like she may have been one of those.

Yes, drug abuse can destroy a person. I've seen it more than once. I don't feel the need to say that they deserved what they got, though. Most all of us deserve a damn sight more than we actually get anyway.

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Can you break that up please so that it's a lot more readable for our literary challenged....?

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@ForumPortal

I'm sorry to hear that you have that going on in your life, and I will say that I've had a similar experiences before, and a very similar experience recently, which your story reminded me a lot of.

The sad fact is that taking yourself out of the situation was probably the best thing for you.

In my recent situation, I was involved with a girl who ended up announcing that she was gonna give up on fighting for her life (she was battling leukemia for a second time, and chemo wasn't working; also, she gave up on a court case she won against former friends who were beating her up and harassing her, because she was afraid their appeal would work despite surmountable evidence for the latter), and though she ended her's and my romantic involvement amicably, ended up telling me she was going to break contact because her new boyfriend felt threatened by her's and my past involvement. I was hurt, but I cut ties with her first, since she made it clear it was her intent.

Sometimes people will just bring crap into your life and continue to do so, and the only thing you can do to help yourself is to leave the situation. You feel guilty now, I'm sure. Over time, though, you'll see that your life is much better.

So yes, to some it would be considered cold-hearted, but it would not be realistic at all to assume that one could stay involved in a situation like that unless they had a viable permanent solution. In essence, you were being realistic.

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Ive learned one thing which has helped me in my life to take stands against people who treat others like crap and make things possible,which ive deemed impossible.Its Willpower.
If you dont use it you will be forever that guy,who gets treated like crap,no one will take you seriously and you dont achieve your goals in life which you have always dreamed of.For me willpower is the key to success.Anything can be done if you have faith for yourself.

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Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

However, I will say that your experience is not uncommon these days, people make choices that affect their lives, and all you can do about this situation is move on, and look to the future


So you obviously did read it, and you obviously do care if you bothered to respond.

I hope you're trolling, because if not, your idiocy amazes me.

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Thanatos is a monster, ignore him. Sorry for the loss. Yes, drugs don't do any good at all. And I'm cold like you. :mellow:

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Turnip Root wrote...

I agree with your conclusion ForumPortal. Drugs, cigarettes to me are like population control. They help clean up the less desirable segments of humanity.  I would not have felt even a sliver of remorse under such circumstances.

Even though I would never ever even consider smoking, people who actually are foolish to make the decision to smoke or do drugs have my full support to continue doing so.

No really, keep doing it.  Stick it to the man, show those hippies who is boss!  Smoke, and smoke some more.  Don't stop, keep doing it!  You have my blessings.


really? reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally?

wanting to use drugs are a symptom of a problem, you're basically saying "people with personal issues should **** off"

also, i was friends with a guy in high school back in the day who had a lot of issues, started using a lot of drugs constantly getting worse and worse before hanging himself the week after graduation, it's not something i wish on anybody

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por favor wrote...

Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

However, I will say that your experience is not uncommon these days, people make choices that affect their lives, and all you can do about this situation is move on, and look to the future


So you obviously did read it, and you obviously do care if you bothered to respond.

I hope you're trolling, because if not, your idiocy amazes me.

There's a fair chance you have your trolls back-to-front. I'm not saying he's definitely trolling but I certainly wouldn't rule it out..

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nerdage wrote...

por favor wrote...

Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

However, I will say that your experience is not uncommon these days, people make choices that affect their lives, and all you can do about this situation is move on, and look to the future


So you obviously did read it, and you obviously do care if you bothered to respond.

I hope you're trolling, because if not, your idiocy amazes me.

There's a fair chance you have your trolls back-to-front. I'm not saying he's definitely trolling but I certainly wouldn't rule it out..

I'd say the OP is the troll and I'm surprised people still take him serious.

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Taking the situation with a grain of salt but needed to point out...

If she was sober for a while then after leaving rehab, and attempted to go back to using, she could have unintentionally overdosed. Meaning, she went back to the same level that she was using before rehab, which was too high as her tolerance changed from time sober.

Downers, upppers, any illicit drug is dangerous as they all affect the body in different ways. Downs can suppress the ability to breath and she could have stopped breathing which lead to her death.

IF this is the truth, I am sorry for your loss.

IF you are lying and just attention seeking, use a different method and get some help.

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Inb4 this OP has got most of his other threads, locked, so i am sure we are again responding to a troll

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Apparently, you learnt how to use paragraphs right at the end  I know this is a sensitive matter and all but placing a wall of text in one chunk does not help people to sympathise.

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Can't read wall of text no matter how serious.

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Turnip Root wrote...

I agree with your conclusion ForumPortal. Drugs, cigarettes to me are like population control. They help clean up the less desirable segments of humanity.  I would not have felt even a sliver of remorse under such circumstances.

Even though I would never ever even consider smoking, people who actually are foolish to make the decision to smoke or do drugs have my full support to continue doing so.

No really, keep doing it.  Stick it to the man, show those hippies who is boss!  Smoke, and smoke some more.  Don't stop, keep doing it!  You have my blessings.


I'd call for a reality check but I think your so far removed that you wouldn't find your way back no matter how much light speed towards it.

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So you're the famous, or rather infamous, Forum Portal that someone mentioned as a serious candidate to steal the Trollest Forumite Award from Busomjack?

Oh, by the way, either learn how to punctuate and make paragraphs to your texts or they are really hard to read. 'Tis not my language. It's just hurt my eyes!

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88mphSlayer wrote...

Turnip Root wrote...

I agree with your conclusion ForumPortal. Drugs, cigarettes to me are like population control. They help clean up the less desirable segments of humanity.  I would not have felt even a sliver of remorse under such circumstances.

Even though I would never ever even consider smoking, people who actually are foolish to make the decision to smoke or do drugs have my full support to continue doing so.

No really, keep doing it.  Stick it to the man, show those hippies who is boss!  Smoke, and smoke some more.  Don't stop, keep doing it!  You have my blessings.


really? reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally?

wanting to use drugs are a symptom of a problem, you're basically saying "people with personal issues should **** off"

also, i was friends with a guy in high school back in the day who had a lot of issues, started using a lot of drugs constantly getting worse and worse before hanging himself the week after graduation, it's not something i wish on anybody


If a smoker can actually admit that he/she has a problem and show a willingness to correct that problem then they deserve a chance to redeem themselves.  People make mistakes afterall, even people like me believe it or not.  The more smug, self-righteous smokers who like to brag about how anti-politically correct they are by flaunting their filth in public places and whining about how people are infringing upon their right to pollute the air for others?  

Absolute vermin.  I don't object to such refuse hastening their removal from this planet.
Of course they hypocritically take advantage of public health care when they get COPD or heart disease yet claim at the same time they don't care about the health concerns of smoking.

The fact that the hearts of such people are allowed to continue to beat, the very idea that they are even allowed to breathe clean air offends me.

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Turnip Root wrote...

If a smoker can actually admit that he/she has a problem and show a willingness to correct that problem then they deserve a chance to redeem themselves.  People make mistakes afterall, even people like me believe it or not.  The more smug, self-righteous smokers who like to brag about how anti-politically correct they are by flaunting their filth in public places and whining about how people are infringing upon their right to pollute the air for others?  

Absolute vermin.  I don't object to such refuse hastening their removal from this planet.
Of course they hypocritically take advantage of public health care when they get COPD or heart disease yet claim at the same time they don't care about the health concerns of smoking.

The fact that the hearts of such people are allowed to continue to beat, the very idea that they are even allowed to breathe clean air offends me.


Reactionary tyrants and delusional megalomaniacs should all have their balls to the wall and shot behind the neck with the bullet cost being charged to their families. The very idea that they are even allowed to breathe at all offends me.

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RageGT wrote...

Turnip Root wrote...

If a smoker can actually admit that he/she has a problem and show a willingness to correct that problem then they deserve a chance to redeem themselves.  People make mistakes afterall, even people like me believe it or not.  The more smug, self-righteous smokers who like to brag about how anti-politically correct they are by flaunting their filth in public places and whining about how people are infringing upon their right to pollute the air for others?  

Absolute vermin.  I don't object to such refuse hastening their removal from this planet.
Of course they hypocritically take advantage of public health care when they get COPD or heart disease yet claim at the same time they don't care about the health concerns of smoking.

The fact that the hearts of such people are allowed to continue to beat, the very idea that they are even allowed to breathe clean air offends me.


Reactionary tyrants and delusional megalomaniacs should all have their balls to the wall and shot behind the neck with the bullet cost being charged to their families. The very idea that they are even allowed to breathe at all offends me.


Well rest easy knowing that while I endure and prosper in good health smokers continue to sanitize themselves in the millions annually.
You can have your violent fantasies though if it helps you placate your rage.  They'll never be more than that though, just fantasies.  I rest easy knowing that smoking actually has a positive effect on the planet.  I am 100 percent pro smoking.

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Garbage Master wrote...

Thanatos is a monster, ignore him. Sorry for the loss. Yes, drugs don't do any good at all. And I'm cold like you. :mellow:


You can't make people save themselves.  Sometimes getting out of the situation is the only option.  That's not cold, per se, just an unfortunate fact of life.