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So Jack's gonna be a s/s option finally...right?


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Modifié par fenix8081, 19 juin 2011 - 04:19 .


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Sorry, iPad freaked out.

So my first play through was my canon male shep and Jack intrigued me, but I chose Tali since she fit my canon female sheep better. Based on the comments Jack makes about being bi-sexual I was rather disappointed when that didn't pan out.

I'm just hoping Bioware remedies that, cuz otherwise Jack really shuts femshep. Plus, who makes more sense as a female s/s option? I mean seriously!

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fenix8081 wrote...

Sorry, iPad freaked out.

So my first play through was my canon male shep and Jack intrigued me, but I chose Tali since she fit my canon female sheep better. Based on the comments Jack makes about being bi-sexual I was rather disappointed when that didn't pan out.

I'm just hoping Bioware remedies that, cuz otherwise Jack really shuts femshep. Plus, who makes more sense as a female s/s option? I mean seriously!

Jack already established herself in ME2 as being straight. I don't think BW is going to change something that they established for a character.

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shadowreflexion wrote...
Jack already established herself in ME2 as being straight. I don't think BW is going to change something that they established for a character.


Actually, she pretty much established herself as being bi, or at the very least open. She talked about being in a triad relationship with a guy and a girl, and she also said, "If you're asking about a boyfriend or a girlfriend...no. It's a waste of time and it never works." implying that gender isn't really something she thinks of as an obstacle.

Modifié par Fidget6, 19 juin 2011 - 05:51 .


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 I'm hoping she is! She seems like the perfect candidate, IMO. She's absolutely PERFECT for my Renegade FemShep. ;)

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LOL. Someone not looking for a relationship is your perfect candidate?

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CQ_Bane wrote...

LOL. Someone not looking for a relationship is your perfect candidate?


Exactly. My renegade isn't looking for a relationship either. She's more of a "hit and quit it," kinda gal. :P

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Fidget6 wrote...

shadowreflexion wrote...
Jack already established herself in ME2 as being straight. I don't think BW is going to change something that they established for a character.


Actually, she pretty much established herself as being bi, or at the very least open. She talked about being in a triad relationship with a guy and a girl, and she also said, "If you're asking about a boyfriend or a girlfriend...no. It's a waste of time and it never works." implying that gender isn't really something she thinks of as an obstacle.


That establishes her as having "experimented."  Consider Murtock.  Then consider her "girl's club" comment, which is ambiguous.  Then, consider that she shows no interest in FemShep, and/or turns her away.  Everyone's Shepardsexual, though, if their sexual orientation coordinates, so what's the deal?

I don't care either way if Jack is a s/s LI option in ME3, as long as Bioware clarifies the "girl's club" comment.

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yorkj86 wrote...

Fidget6 wrote...

shadowreflexion wrote...
Jack already established herself in ME2 as being straight. I don't think BW is going to change something that they established for a character.


Actually, she pretty much established herself as being bi, or at the very least open. She talked about being in a triad relationship with a guy and a girl, and she also said, "If you're asking about a boyfriend or a girlfriend...no. It's a waste of time and it never works." implying that gender isn't really something she thinks of as an obstacle.


That establishes her as having "experimented."  Consider Murtock.  Then consider her "girl's club" comment, which is ambiguous.  Then, consider that she shows no interest in FemShep, and/or turns her away.  Everyone's Shepardsexual, though, if their sexual orientation coordinates, so what's the deal?

I don't care either way if Jack is a s/s LI option in ME3, as long as Bioware clarifies the "girl's club" comment.

I forgot about that. Thanks for the correction.

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She may not be looking for a relationship, but she'll go for one with a male Shepard, so that's kind of a moot point. If anything, prior bad experiences with men and her comments that hint toward bisexuality would almost make a femshep relationship more of a possibility.

Plus, as you can see in the paragon romance, her walls get broken down a bit. Her hard ass exterior is really just a defense mechanism. She may be a mess in a relationship, but isn't Shepard all about overcoming impossible situations?

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I'd love for her to be the f/f LI (if not Ashley). I was so disappointed when she shut down my renegade femShep. If they did make her the f/f LI though, they really would have to clear up that girl's club thing and why she was willing to have a relationship with maleShep but not femShep.

Personally, I guess it might have something to do with the guy she loved who died for her (who she mentions in the romance). I think because she was still hurt and grieving to an extent, she was looking to recreate that relationship with maleShep (but she's unsure of herself and doesn't understand her own actions fully). Which leads to her to her having sex with Shep in the renegade option (and realising it didn't recreate the old feelings of that relationship, which might also be why she's so angry afterwards. But the relationship pursued in the paragon option, leads to maleShep getting to know and understand her, and the more successful recreation of her old relationship leads to a real relationship with maleShep. With all that in mind, Jack probably wouldn't even consider trying to recreate the relationship she had with her old boyfriend with a woman, and therefore pushes femShep away.
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Modifié par ReallyRue, 19 juin 2011 - 07:40 .


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ReallyRue wrote...

I'd love for her to be the f/f LI (if not Ashley). I was so disappointed when she shut down my renegade femShep. If they did make her the f/f LI though, they really would have to clear up that girl's club thing and why she was willing to have a relationship with maleShep but not femShep.

Personally, I guess it might have something to do with the guy she loved who died for her (who she mentions in the romance). I think because she was still hurt and grieving to an extent, she was looking to recreate that relationship with maleShep (but she's unsure of herself and doesn't understand her own actions fully). Which leads to her to her having sex with Shep in the renegade option (and realising it didn't recreate the old feelings of that relationship, which might also be why she's so angry afterwards. But the relationship pursued in the paragon option, leads to maleShep getting to know and understand her, and the more successful recreation of her old relationship leads to a real relationship with maleShep. With all that in mind, Jack probably wouldn't even consider trying to recreate the relationship she had with her old boyfriend with a woman, and therefore pushes femShep away.
But that's my ramble-y guess anyway. Image IPB


She doesn't even offer the "Renegade sex" option to FemShep.  That may just be a game mechanic, but consider that along with the "girl's club" comment.  I'm thinking that unless there's an underlying issue regarding Jack and females, Jack's just heterosexual.

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I took the "girls club" comment about gossip and talking and what not. That type of "girls club" and not being with a woman in a sexual sense. Her comment about boyfriend/girlfriend set my gaydar off. Which is why I think she could be the s/s in ME3. But we will have to wait and see.

I was going to create another femShep for the s/s, but now I think I'm going to wait and see who it is first. I actually started one via genesis but deleted that file before finishing up Freedom's Progress mission. I think I will just wait. I'm sure I will end up making one or two more Shepards after ME3 comes out.

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Jack has had sex with both genders in the past. It would be less of a stretch for her to swing both ways than any other non-monogendered companion. Because, you know, she has.

I always took her 'girl club' comment to mean she just doesn't like doing 'girl' type activity. Like shoe shopping with Leliana. Or 'Girl-talk.'
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Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 19 juin 2011 - 11:07 .


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I wish, it'd be nice to have a s/s option for the ladies that wasn't overly girly. A Space Isabela would be ideal but Jack is close and I would fully support this.

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I never took Jack's "girls' club" comment to mean the same thing as Isabela's "girly fun" comment (although its always fun to pretend Hawke doesn't know what Isabela means). I always figured Jack was bisexual but she didn't fancy femshep. I wouldn't think it unrealistic if she was a s/s option in ME3.

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Jack would make a lot more sense as a bi option than Ash all of a sudden unleashing her inner lesbo in ME3.

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It's really getting annoying the pro s/s people first wanted the option now they still want to rewrite characters to be s/s options I guess thet person was right who said give them a finger and they'll take the arm.

Jack already said she hated it. All this want for character s/s options is like Mordin suddenly wanting shep the guy already said he isn't into anyone but it won't stop people from demanding he should be.

No to all past LI being s/s or bi options
fine to brandnew like vegas being s/s or bi options.

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 20 juin 2011 - 12:00 .


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Jack has swung both ways in the past, but as I said, it could have been experimentation, leading her to the realization that she's hetero. That's speculation, though. What I think is the most peculiar thing about Jack and FemShep, though, is that, as I said before, all of the LIs respond to Shepard if their sexual orientation lines up. They're all "Shepardsexual." Even UglyShepard can get some. Why does Jack turn down FemShep? I don't think it's particularly compelling when people respond by saying that she just doesn't like FemShep, because, as I just said, Shepard is irresistible. The LIs all respond.

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Honestly...I want the LI's to stay how they are. I don't want them changed when there are new characters that can be s/s LI's.

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I thought Jack didn't roll that way, not on regular basis or anything. Told my Femshep to stuff it.

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slimgrin wrote...

I thought Jack didn't roll that way, not on regular basis or anything. Told my Femshep to stuff it.


Yeah, i thought that too. I hope they don't retcon her in ME3. I don't want any of the established characters in ME to be bi. New characters, fine, but the ones we've already seen is unrealistic. I hope they don't go DA2 about it.

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jbblue05 wrote...

Jack would make a lot more sense as a bi option than Ash all of a sudden unleashing her inner lesbo in ME3.


I laughed so hard at this:O

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jbblue05 wrote...

Jack would make a lot more sense as a bi option than Ash all of a sudden unleashing her inner lesbo in ME3.


Just because a girl shaves her head and is covered in tattoos it's not neccesarily true that she swings both ways. 

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AngelicMachinery wrote...

Just because a girl shaves her head and is covered in tattoos it's not neccesarily true that she swings both ways. 


Just because a girl has had sex with both men and women doesn't mean she swings both ways.Image IPB

Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 20 juin 2011 - 06:00 .