Saren was called the best of the other Spectres for a reason and Shepard killed him. That is in no way to measure an average for a Spectres effectiveness. I think that proves that not all Spectres are as equally skilled. Hell Vasir was easier to defeat then Saren and she wasn't at his level.Eurhetemec wrote...
That's true, but that's all we've seen. In my post I mentioned the possibility of "lesser" SPECTREs.
Ashley survived an invasion force of Geth that are smarter and more harder to kill then humans. Someone who has a survivability level similar to a survivalist Shepard. Not many people can make it out of that situation alive at all. Also you have to remember Ashley have been working in Alliance spec ops for 2 years even into the events of ME2. Its reasonable to say that she and Kaidan would obviously be grizzled veterans on the level of a N7 and we all know that N7s seem to be monitored for possible Spectre qualities.I think you're missing my point, because I confused the issue by using ME2 as an example. What I'm saying is, Ashley is likely to look pretty crummy compared to Shepard, and also only "as good" as say, James Vega, who is supposedly an "experienced soldier", not a SPECTRE-level killing machine. So I'm sad she's not a temporary companion who is actually a serious badass.
Shepard isn't like Saren when it comes to resourcefulness. Shepard is a very good negotiator and fighter but that isn't as effective as Saren being a major shareholder in a company to the point where you have a large influence over major corporations and enough wealth to hire an army of Krogan mercs. Spectres like Saren and Tela Vasir aren't like Shepard in the way they fight armies of mercs or Geth all the time. Saren is closer to Shepard's level but even he died. Using Shepard or even Saren isn't the best way to measure a Spectre's effectiveness. Tela Vasir or Nihlus maybe better but even then the only reason why they are where they are at is through years of Spectre work and Nihlus was mentored by Saren.Yes, that's Saren and Tela Vasir and Shepard (and presumably Nihlus). Their resourcefulness and backup and so on are part of why they're badass - though come on - Tela Vasir could clearly kill as well as Shepard does.
So will Ash and Kaidan have that? I'll be surprised. Ashley, god bless her, she's a tough girl, a wise girl, and a good person (despite inaccurate allegations of xenophobia), but she is not a manipulator, she is not very clever, she is not a born leader, she's an ass-kicker. So as a SPECTRE, she'd certainly be missing all that sort of stuff, I would think.
Also Ashley and Kaidan are ass kickers since they do assist Shepard in taking down hordes of Geth and Krogan thats good enough for me. You may say that they aren't at the level of Nihlus but remember he isn't a better combatant then Samara who technically had him on the run for weeks. I wouldn't recommend Samara for being a Spectre.
No one is as badass as shepard in a fight. Hell he fought a Yahg who are stronger then Krogan. Only strong biotics could likely beat shepard but thats iffy. Like I said before Ashley or Kaidan are badass but the only way they can truly shine is if they become a Spectre and actually get field experience.I mean, could she be as badass as Shepard in a fight? Nearly, though she's not a cyborg (unlike Shepard). But that's the only place I could see her equal Shepard or really any SPECTRE.
Kaidan is a relatively high ranking enough officer in the Navy that its obvious other people thinks he is a good leader. There is no evidence that really goes against that.Kaidan is similar. He's a straight-up guy, he's very very brave, and he's not stupid. However, he's also not really cunning, or manipulative, or particularly clever or insightful, nor is he again, a born leader. He's a second-string kind of guy. As a Sentinel, he could probably hold his own on the battlefield, but again, that's about the only place, and again, he's likely to seem somewhat "meh", as he'll be reduced to similar status to other NPCs.
Maybe I'm just mad because I think Garrus would have made a better SPECTRE than either of them
I think you are a little mad that Garrus isn't a Spectre since I am and everyone else is. The only thing is that Ashley and Kaidan being spectres can work since they are some of the few who have the training and potential to be a good spectre. Hell they even have pretty little emotional baggage that could hold them back. Garrus would make a good Spectre but he isn't far from being Saren.





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