It's been confirmed that Shepard's improved mobility includes things like vaulting over obstacles without needing to actually hide behind them for a second.
So, since storm is no doubt still on the A button, and it only makes sense to have to be holding A in order to vault over something, that must mean that "take cover" is no longer on the A button.
One would hope that means that crouch is back in ME3, and pressing it near cover allows you to crouch behind cover.
Please say "yes crouching is back in ME3" devs. Do it. You know you want to.
One little thing I'd like to know right now is if crouch is back.
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Shotokanguy
, juin 19 2011 07:08
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 07:09
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Sorry, crouching was found to be confusing to players new to the series and has been removed.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 07:09
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I hope so too. I like to feel all sneaky sneaky.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 07:12
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What is so confusing about the word "Search"? Ive lost count of the amount of times this same topic has cropped up.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 07:16
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I would hope that crouching is back, what with a slight focus on stealthy movement now and all.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 07:32
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I'll be honest - it didn't even occur to me that crouching was taken out from ME1 to ME2 until just this topic.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 07:40
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Shotokanguy wrote...
So, since storm is no doubt still on the A button, and it only makes sense to have to be holding A in order to vault over something, that must mean that "take cover" is no longer on the A button.
Huh?
That's how it already is in ME2 and you just tap A next to a wall to take cover, there's no need to change that.
Modifié par InvaderErl, 19 juin 2011 - 07:41 .
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 07:51
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I doubt it will be put back in unless they revamp the combat as with creative use of the crouch key in ME1 you could become immune to enemy fire since they would only aim at your gut instead of your head and rifle sticking over the crates. It can still be seen in ME2 when maneuvering the hammerhead into a hull-down position renders it immune to fire.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 08:16
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InvaderErl wrote...
Shotokanguy wrote...
So, since storm is no doubt still on the A button, and it only makes sense to have to be holding A in order to vault over something, that must mean that "take cover" is no longer on the A button.
Huh?
That's how it already is in ME2 and you just tap A next to a wall to take cover, there's no need to change that.
Come on, I explained it. If you can vault over cover in ME3 WITHOUT having to get behind the piece of cover first, then it can't be on the A button. You need that to storm over it, don't you?
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 08:19
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So then
Hold A = Storm
Tap A = get into cover
Holding A while standing by a cover = Vault
Holding A while in cover = Vault
Hold A = Storm
Tap A = get into cover
Holding A while standing by a cover = Vault
Holding A while in cover = Vault
Modifié par InvaderErl, 19 juin 2011 - 08:21 .
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 08:22
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...I suppose that might work...
crap
Seriously, we need crouching back.
crap
Seriously, we need crouching back.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 08:52
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Shotokanguy wrote...
...I suppose that might work...
crap
Seriously, we need crouching back.
If for no other reason than to teabag our comrades who spontaneously leave cover for no reason and get KO'd.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 09:13
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Watch this there's still crouching behind cover if that's what you mean. Watch from 3:36 - 3:55. There's a demonstration on sneaky mobility and assassination. Shepard can sneakily maneuver around the battlefield to gain a silent advantage. 
Edit: Here's my guess on the mobility button usages.
Storm: Hold A + Forward Direction
Dodge/Tumble: Double Tap A + Any Direction
Take Cover: Tap A (when near cover)
Vault Over Cover: Tap A + Direction of cover in relation to Shepard or Storm toward cover (cover must be able to be seen over)
Switch from Cover-to-Cover: Tap A + Direction (arrow shows that your move will switch you from cover-to-cover
Navigate Areas of Cover: Tap A + Direction (arrow indicates that your move will move you around corners of cover)
Assassinate: Hold B (When in cover behind an unsuspecting enemy)
Edit: Here's my guess on the mobility button usages.
Storm: Hold A + Forward Direction
Dodge/Tumble: Double Tap A + Any Direction
Take Cover: Tap A (when near cover)
Vault Over Cover: Tap A + Direction of cover in relation to Shepard or Storm toward cover (cover must be able to be seen over)
Switch from Cover-to-Cover: Tap A + Direction (arrow shows that your move will switch you from cover-to-cover
Navigate Areas of Cover: Tap A + Direction (arrow indicates that your move will move you around corners of cover)
Assassinate: Hold B (When in cover behind an unsuspecting enemy)
Modifié par ME-ParaShep, 19 juin 2011 - 09:21 .
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 09:16
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I believe they removed crouching to prevent players from crouching behind cover and shooting over it, which confuses the AI.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 09:17
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That's not what OP's asking. You could auto-crouch in ME2 just fine; OP wants to know if manual crouch will return (from ME1).
Modifié par marshalleck, 19 juin 2011 - 09:19 .
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 09:26
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I know, that's what I'm saying. In ME1, you could crouch behind cover without actually using the cover mechanic, and shoot enemies over said cover. The AI was not built to react to this, and so it made them act more idiotic than usual.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 09:31
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The AI is "suppose" to be "better" in ME3. I say bring crouch back. If Shepard can roll,climb,vault,& run. Why can't Shepard crouch?
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Maybe Shepard could not crouch in ME2 due to the Bum Knee Shepard was left with, after Cerberus rebuilt Shepard.
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Maybe Shepard could not crouch in ME2 due to the Bum Knee Shepard was left with, after Cerberus rebuilt Shepard.
Modifié par Rip504, 19 juin 2011 - 09:34 .
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 09:31
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Oh Schneidend, you ninja. You slipped that post in just before me. I was responding to ME-ParaShep.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 09:35
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Ah. Well, just goes to show you should have completed your Forum Assassin training.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 09:39
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I was a bit annoyed with the lack of crouching in ME 2. A cover system might look good and everything but I enjoy finding my own cover in a shooter style game. There were a few times in ME 2 where the cover system led to some pretty funky situations. It was nice how crouching would stabalize the crosshairs in ME 1 as well.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 09:51
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Of course, I do think ME2 got by just fine without the ability to crouch on your own.
But it won't fly for a second straight game. If BioWare truly wants to compete with the pure TPSes, they can't afford to remove simple actions like crouching. It adds several more dynamics to combat that ME3 would only benefit from. Being able to move from cover to cover without popping up all the way, being a smaller target, increasing accuracy...we just need it.
But it won't fly for a second straight game. If BioWare truly wants to compete with the pure TPSes, they can't afford to remove simple actions like crouching. It adds several more dynamics to combat that ME3 would only benefit from. Being able to move from cover to cover without popping up all the way, being a smaller target, increasing accuracy...we just need it.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 09:53
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You can move from cover to cover by rolling.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 09:56
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That isn't foolproof. You cannot move continuously, you cannot stay completely low.
Rolling out of cover would be used to lauch into a run or open fire on surprised enemies. I'm not going to roll 5 times to move to another part of the battlefield.
Rolling out of cover would be used to lauch into a run or open fire on surprised enemies. I'm not going to roll 5 times to move to another part of the battlefield.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 09:57
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Bogsnot1 wrote...
What is so confusing about the word "Search"? Ive lost count of the amount of times this same topic has cropped up.
What is so confusing about the word "Crappy function?" I've lost count of the amount of times this dismissal has cropped up.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 10:06
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Ahh I see. Hmm.The only benefit to crouching like that would be if you're far from cover and enemies are shooting at you. Crouch walking to reach that cover would prevent you from being hit. Which is a pretty useful maneuver. I say that crouching is acceptable. It may not have many uses, but it's good enough to keep the mobility uses more diverse.
