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[Whatsupnewyork]

I don't see why it is so bad to you people, sorry....

Modifié par Whatsupnewyork, 19 juin 2011 - 09:37 .

[Xewaka]

The events in the end (which is exactly the same, gameplay wise, regardless of which side you choose) only make sense if you side with the Templars, yet western moral values make people side with the Mages by default (and the writing of DA 2 didn't manage to overcome the confirmation bias stablished by DA:O and make the issue a true grey vs grey political issue).
In addition, most people feel as if the buildup to the climax is mishandled, as it doesn't pace itself properly and comes off as abrupt.

[Dormiglione]

Whatsupnewyork wrote...

I don't see why it is so bad to you people, sorry...

What did you like of Act 3? I liked Act 2 much more than Act 3.

[Whatsupnewyork]

I didn't like any of DA2 as such, but I still don't see why some people despise ACT 3 saying it it is the worst.

I want to know why you all think it is the worst.

Modifié par Whatsupnewyork, 19 juin 2011 - 09:38 .

[Dormiglione]

Whatsupnewyork wrote...

I didn't like any of DA2 as such, but I still don't see why some people despise ACT 3 saying it it is the worst.

I want to know why you all think it is the worst.

If you tell me why you didnt like it, i will tell you also my opinion.

[wurrble182]

some of us haven't played act 3 yet, but are fast heading towards (What i assume) is the end of act 2. im just curious about what's coming up that's supposedly so bad? id like to feel excited about act 3 but all this negativity has me on my guard

[Dormiglione]

wurrble182 wrote...

some of us haven't played act 3 yet, but are fast heading towards (What i assume) is the end of act 2. im just curious about what's coming up that's supposedly so bad? id like to feel excited about act 3 but all this negativity has me on my guard

I would just play Act 3 without any prejudice. There is no technical problem with Act 3. And for the story its subjective if you like it or not.

[Alright-Television]

Act 3 is the second best act because it's the quickest act. It sucks but it's easily done away with after a few hours. The worst act is act 1 because it goes on to great lengths to show how awful the game is with its many quests that take place in the exact same places (only now we've sealed off parts of the dungeon!! lololol!!). Act 2 is the only good part of the game, for reasons I can't go into without spoiling the game. I wouldn't say it's worth playing, but there was serious potential.

Modifié par Alright-Television, 19 juin 2011 - 10:13 .

[por favor]

I really can't explain why it sucks without giving some spoilers. Let's just say it's anti-climatic and no matter what you do, the results are the f&cking same.

Not to mention, one part in particular didn't even make any sense. Ahem...Orsino.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

pfft ant 3 wasn't bad, the whole game was bad

[sphinxess]

Don't think about the details - just have fun blasting the enemies - then part 3 is ok. <It only gets bad for the people that like to replay Bioware games>

[Alright-Television]

Act 3 is part of the entire game therefore it is bad.

edit: "don't think about the details, just have fun blasting enemies"
I see.

Modifié par Alright-Television, 19 juin 2011 - 10:30 .

[MorrigansLove]

Act 3 is bad, because the game thinks you have sided with the templars, even if you sided with the mages all throughout the game.

[ItsTheTruth]

Act 3 is bad like the rest of the game, but in new ways.

[Jaldaric]

And the silly templars and mages too. "Blaargh! Ima amage, ima repressed hurr durr *attacks everyone*"

Its just the whole thing was messed up. Throw in some transformers and a sith lord and you got the reason act 3 sucked. Act2 with the qunari was the only tolerable aspect of the game.

[tulwar]

When I first played DA2 my eyes popped out; the graphics (Xbox360) were 100% improvement on Origins. the combat is fast furious and breathtaking. a fully voiced Hawke was great. that was the good points. unfortunately the constant use of same locations (disguised) felt cheap. the NPCs didn't seem as engaging. the pay area was too restricting. I felt let down by E.A.
I played origins 10 times. purchased all of the DLC. and still thirst for more origins DLC even though there will be no more.
However that said. I have clocked DA2 6 times. the game has grown on me, the NPcs became more endearing.
I would like to see an expansion pack for DA2. and perhaps backstory DLC for NPCs, particularly, Isabella, Merril, Sebastion and Fenris, by far the most interesting of the bunch.
Yes, E.A made errors with this game, wandering too much off the beaten track. but that said and done. D.A 2 is not a big mistake. the game still shines and stands on its own merits.
all we need now is for E.A to remake origins, fully voice the warden and give it D.A 2s combat system. then we would have the perfect dragon age game.

[Salaya]

Whatsupnewyork wrote...

I don't see why it is so bad to you people, sorry....

You should post this in a spoiler allowed forum for better answers

I think it's the worst act because not only feels extremely rushed, but also extremely forced and unbelivable. Some characters react in weird manners and take unnatural decisions. 

Not other part of the game shows the irrelevancy of your choices than Act 3. 

As for the climatic combats... well, the flashy and japanised style takes the most dramatic turn here. And, for anyone who loved some of DLC Origins had... seeing a mythical monster defies all sensible gameplay-art decisions.

Of course, that's only my opinion.

[Recycled Human]

Grace upset me to no end. But I can understand a little when compared to Lady Harriman, she became irrational. The turmoil wasn't brought enough into the light because even if you side with the mages the whole game they still attack you on sight. Orsino at the end of the game feels like he arbitrarily 'gives up'. But I would argue that the game makes more sense if you side with the mages as for the results of everything. They blame the champion for the current state of affairs instead of blaming anders.

Still Cullen so I won't be playing a mage lover ever again.

[Rauhallinen]

Act 3 is the best act.

Act 1 and 2 suck almost as badly and take lot more time to play. Act 3 is over quickly and once you finish it the game is finished. No more grueling dullness from forcing yourself to play it just because you liked previous Bioware games.

[ItsTheTruth]

Rauhallinen wrote...
Act 1 and 2 suck almost as badly and take lot more time to play. Act 3 is over quickly and once you finish it the game is finished. No more grueling dullness from forcing yourself to play it just because you liked previous Bioware games.

True; but until the credits start rolling you can't help thinking: maybe it will get better at one point, no way this game can be that bad?

[Slayer299]

tulwar wrote...

What does all that have to do with anything the OP asked? Answer: Nothing.

Shoo Troll Shoo!

OP - Act 3 is so bad because none of your decisions there make any discernible impact on the ending or any part leading up to the credits. The anime combat goes up a notch (that is not a compliment either) and the best thing to say about Act 3 is its short. I found the ending to be a "WTF" moment.

Your mileage may vary after you play it.

Modifié par Slayer299, 19 juin 2011 - 12:48 .

[LobselVith8]

Whatsupnewyork wrote...

I don't see why it is so bad to you people, sorry....

Hawke does nothing for three years while Meredith has become a dictator, Hawke continues to be reactive even if he thinks Meredith should be deposed since others are working to remove her from power (from the nobles to Ser Thrask), Ser Thrask is killed in an asinine quest that makes no sense as a pro-mage protagonist (since everyone is claiming Hawke is working for Meredith, even if Hawke publicly condemned her), and Thrask is killed by a character (Grace) who has a nonsensical motivation and is pretty much a cardboard cutout villain. Cullen can be warned about Anders' plot against the Chantry, and he does nothing even when Anders is standing right next to Hawke.

The antagonists Hawke faces at the end are devoid of any depth and lack the complexity of an antagonist like Loghain; where The Warden's foe had his reasons for acting against the protagonist, Hawke's foes feel more like they belong in the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show when we see Orsino become a Harvester for no logical reason (with a pro-mage Hawke), Cullen will stand with a templar-killing pro-mage Hawke over Meredith even though he's made it clear he doesn't think mages should be treated like people, and Meredith becomes insane because of a macguffin that is never explained. If Hawke was pro-templar, the victory of the templars and the defeat of the mages inspires the mages that "the templars can be defied," even though the templars won and weren't defied.

Modifié par LobselVith8, 19 juin 2011 - 12:58 .

[Herr Uhl]

Edit: Nevermind, confused

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 19 juin 2011 - 01:02 .

[Wulfram]

Herr Uhl wrote...

LobselVith8, notice that it is the non-spoiler forums?

It's not anymore

[Herr Uhl]

Wulfram wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

LobselVith8, notice that it is the non-spoiler forums?

It's not anymore

Yeah, edited. I walked away for a bit and came back to see it.