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I've searched and found conflicting reports, so I was hoping you guys could set the record straight.

My question:  is there an actual reaper inside the reaper "ship?"  For instance, when Saren and Benezia were inside Sovereign, did they/could they talk to a Sovereign himself, or was there no physical body?  Say the collectors had succeeded in creating the human reaper... would the human reaper drive/control a squid-like ship?

Thanks in advance ^_^

Furthermore, do you think we will infilitrate the reaper ships to destroy the "bodies" (if they exist) or do you think we will just blow up the ships?

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Reaper thing inside of Reaper "ship" came from concept art. It was never made canon IIRC.
I don't think there is enough information to really say yes or no atm. Only speculation.

Modifié par ZLurps, 19 juin 2011 - 12:26 .


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Well as far as I know, it has never been said whether or not there is an organic life form "Piloting" the Reapers, but I highly doubt it given that in the game they are referred to as Sentient Machines. I think if they did talk, it would be in much the same way that Shepard talks to Sovereign on Virmire in ME1.

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Why do most of the Reapers we’ve seen so far have similar insect-like appearances? The human Reaper looked different, but otherwise it seems like the Reapers mainly build themselves out of bugs. Is that correct?

Mac Walters: "The exterior of the Reapers does follow a similar pattern, an efficient design for the purpose they were created for. However each Reaper is created from a unique species, and as we saw at the end of Mass Effect 2, the core of each Reaper is designed in the likeness of that species."

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Reaper ships are actully filled with delicious, gooey caramel under an outer milk choclate hull.

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Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

Reaper ships are actully filled with delicious, gooey caramel under an outer milk choclate hull.


*** Warning, may contain traces of nuts, eggs, and milk products ***

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Bogsnot1 wrote...

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

Reaper ships are actully filled with delicious, gooey caramel under an outer milk choclate hull.


*** Warning, may contain traces of nuts, eggs, and milk products ***


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Insects? I always thought they looked crustacean...

There would appear to be Giant Reaper Core modeled after a species a the center of the Colossal Reaper Body. It's a giant machine made from organics piloting an even bigger machine... Like a megazord...

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Silly me but think about this.
ME3 has shown and stated that Reapers come in various sizes. Is this a function by design or, quite possibly, a function of species. What I mean is, what if there is a specific number of beings that must be used to create a Reaper. Say, 10 million. Less and it's not complete, more would be just waste.
Now, take that creation limit and think about the sizes of each individual race. Some races may be very small, others quiet large, the size of the Reaper indicating this. The human Reaper baby was not really that big and might require an outer shell of say 1 kilometer, half the size of Sovereign. Sovereigns original species might have been 4 meters tall, or rather massive like the elcor. The newer Reapers, shown in the trailers, would therefore not be small because they were designed to handle smaller duties but small because their race was.
BW, when are you going to give me a book about Reaper creation!?! :)
Sorry, just rambling.

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Raiders Fan 223 wrote...

I've searched and found conflicting reports, so I was hoping you guys could set the record straight.

My question:  is there an actual reaper inside the reaper "ship?"  For instance, when Saren and Benezia were inside Sovereign, did they/could they talk to a Sovereign himself, or was there no physical body?  Say the collectors had succeeded in creating the human reaper... would the human reaper drive/control a squid-like ship?

Thanks in advance ^_^

Furthermore, do you think we will infilitrate the reaper ships to destroy the "bodies" (if they exist) or do you think we will just blow up the ships?


There is a giant scale representation of whatever race the reaper comes from within the dreadnought. I suspect that the ship is the reaper too. In comparison to out own anatomy the squid shell is the legs and armor. So in the instance of the human reaper fetus the lower vertebrae would have connected directly to the squid shell. 

I don't believe Saren or the heretics knew precisely what Soveriegn was either. At least not the "made from organic species" part.

The reaper base itself was a shipyard. The squid ship shell would have been built around the reaper, probably from the base's very own structure so that once done the base would be gone and only the squid ship remained.

I predict that you will fight the adult reaper Harbinger (Darth Sidious/Vader)  from the inside the squid shell (the Death Star) while a huge space battle (Rebellion vs Empire) and ground battle on Earth (Endor) lead by Anderson (Han Solo) are going on.

Modifié par The Twilight God, 19 juin 2011 - 02:00 .


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The Twilight God wrote...

Raiders Fan 223 wrote...

I've searched and found conflicting reports, so I was hoping you guys could set the record straight.

My question:  is there an actual reaper inside the reaper "ship?"  For instance, when Saren and Benezia were inside Sovereign, did they/could they talk to a Sovereign himself, or was there no physical body?  Say the collectors had succeeded in creating the human reaper... would the human reaper drive/control a squid-like ship?

Thanks in advance ^_^

Furthermore, do you think we will infilitrate the reaper ships to destroy the "bodies" (if they exist) or do you think we will just blow up the ships?


There is a giant representation of whatever race the reaper comes from within the dreadnought.

I don't believe Saren or the heretics knew precisely what Soveriegn was either.

The reaper base itself was a shipyard. The swuid ship shell would have been built around the reaper, probably from the base's very own structure so that once done the base would be gone and only the squid ship remained.

I predict that you will fight the adult reaper Harbinger (Darth Sidious/Vader)  from the inside the squid shell (the Death Star) while a huge space battle (Rebellion vs Empire) and ground battle on Earth (Endor) lead by Anderson (Han Solo) are going on.


I think I just facepalm'd so bad my head is now on backwards.
Thank you for that.

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-Harbinger- wrote...

I think I just facepalm'd so bad my head is now on backwards.
Thank you for that.


Umm... you're welcome?

Modifié par The Twilight God, 19 juin 2011 - 02:00 .


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If I can find it I will post it. But I read that the reaper ships are all the same on the outside. They have different classes with different functions but on the outside every ship in a class is the same. The inside however is slightly different based on the species that created it. If left alone for long enough the proto-reaper in ME2 would have been a full skeleton, and then more and more crap would be added on to it until it looked like any other reaper ship, with some slight variation deep in the core.

Also there are no reaper pilots, reapers are those ships.

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Ok, first off, the entire cruiser known as 'Soveriegn', was a sentient machine.

If anybody can't wrap their heads around that, I guess I'll just explain it a little better, ok?

Sentient....A mechanical device with the ability to be 'self-aware', mimicking organic life-forms, to the extent of knowing why it exists and further understanding why it does it's daily functions.

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There is no organic pilot for a Reaper. The whole thing is a biomechanical creature. However, they do have different parts, like organs. The part that's shaped like their originator species (such as the Human Reaper foetus) is, for all intents and purposes, their "brain". It sits inside and is the hub of their intelligence.

That does not mean that it stands inside the rest of the Reaper and controls it like a pilot. The fact that it's in the shape of the species used to create it is merely a by-product of the process.

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I wonder what a Reaper made of Volus would look like... "that's no moon", anyone? ^^

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Gill Kaiser wrote...

There is no organic pilot for a Reaper. The whole thing is a biomechanical creature. However, they do have different parts, like organs. The part that's shaped like their originator species (such as the Human Reaper foetus) is, for all intents and purposes, their "brain". It sits inside and is the hub of their intelligence.

That does not mean that it stands inside the rest of the Reaper and controls it like a pilot. The fact that it's in the shape of the species used to create it is merely a by-product of the process.


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One of the devs (I think it may've been Mac) confirmed a while back that the core of the Reaper is the actual Reaper and is based on the species it is derived from, much like the human larvae. The outer shell, i.e. the ship part with the weapons and shields and engines and tentacles is just that, an outer shell. This is why they all look pretty similar at the end of ME2. I imagine the core is incredibly heavily integrated into the ship, so the two are essentially the same thing, but I don't know about that for sure.

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Gill Kaiser wrote...

That does not mean that it stands inside the rest of the Reaper and controls it like a pilot. The fact that it's in the shape of the species used to create it is merely a by-product of the process.


This raises another question: if the overall shape of the reaper adopts the beings that were used in it's construction, why haven't we seen any prothean-looking reapers? They all have the same overall appearance, suggesting that they were all made from the same race. Also, as stated in ME 2, it would take over a million humans to make one human reaper. In that final scene, we see a couple hundred reapers, which would require billions upon billions of organics to construct.

If the reapers make new ones during each cycle, that would explain the numbers but not the similar appearance. If the human reaper was the first one to be made since the cycles started, that would explain the similarity in appearance but not the large numbers.

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Blze001 wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

That does not mean that it stands inside the rest of the Reaper and controls it like a pilot. The fact that it's in the shape of the species used to create it is merely a by-product of the process.


This raises another question: if the overall shape of the reaper adopts the beings that were used in it's construction, why haven't we seen any prothean-looking reapers? They all have the same overall appearance, suggesting that they were all made from the same race.


There is no question to be raised. The leader writters have already stated that inside the squid shell is a reaper terminator that looks like the race they are made from. They all have an outer shell that looks they way it does because that is the most practical form for their needs. Does this mean the terminator is completely seperate from the squid frame? No. Does this mean the squid frame is a ship and the reaper is a pilot? No. The dreadnaught you see is an extention of the reapers body that they all have in common, just like arms and legs.

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I think the Reapers are a good reason for us to kill off all cephalopods - just in case.

Your cthulu wanna-be machine-god overlords are coming... you just wait.

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-Harbinger- wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

Reaper ships are actully filled with delicious, gooey caramel under an outer milk choclate hull.


*** Warning, may contain traces of nuts, eggs, and milk products ***


*** PS: May also contain genocidal instincts and an indoctrination aura***


*** P.P.S. May also contain metal ***