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[Suron]

what is the deal with the weapons in this game being so friggin over-sized??  a longsword has a fat handle and looks like a greatsword...Daggers???? LOL never seen a dagger with a blade the length of a persons arm...

it's ridiculous...daggers look like short swords..how the hell did the size of these weapons make it past a beta stage???  I'd like a responce from BioWare on this and how they justify the ridiculousness of it....daggers have handles fatter then your wrist and are longer then your arm....yah ok

I love this game but the crazy size of weapons just ruins quite a bit of it..especially if you play a female or an elf char....christ the weapon is bigger then there body

[Beertastic]

Everyone knows, bigger weapons = more sales. Durr.

[BluesMan1956]

All the weapons are imported from Japan

[Hyunsai]

Phallic weapons make the sales, boy (and that's why they are NOT imported from Japan) ...


Deal with it, or like everybody say for everything, fix it with the toolset ?

Modifié par Hyunsai, 20 novembre 2009 - 02:34 .

[Matthew Young CT]

"I love this game but the crazy size of weapons just ruins quite a bit of it..especially if you play a female or an elf char....christ the weapon is bigger then there body"



How big do you think greatswords IRL are/were?



Daggers being short swords is..odd..but the larger swords are not unrealistic.

[BluesMan1956]

Hyunsai wrote...

Phallic weapons make the sales, boy (and that's why they are NOT imported from Japan) ...


Deal with it, or like everybody say for everything, fix it with the toolset ?

Oh, come on.  Haven't you noticed the average sword size in JRPGs?

[bjdbwea]

I completely agree, the weapons look ridiculous. The bows are too big as well, while curiously the crossbows seem okay. If you look at the weapon/player size ratio in the NWN games, it looks much better. But I had a quick look into Wikipedia, and it seems the DA sizes are in fact not that unrealistic. It's just that "in reality" small races like elves wouldn't wield greatswords in the first place. Women neither, I guess. So it's more related to BioWare (rightfully) allowing everyone to use all weapons. Though in my opinion the weapons also look just a small bit less ridiculous in the hands of human males.

[IndomitusRex]

Regarding the daggers at least, I prefer to actually see my weapons. Real daggers are 6 to 12 inches in length - that's not going to show up very well on screen (and would require the devs to come up with another finishing move to replace the decapitation one for dagger wielders).

[BluesMan1956]

I still think the Great Swords look awesome when you're swingin' 'em!

[morti84]

this is a game with dragons and magic and you pick up on oversized weapons? Wow.

[Titanmike357]

the daggers are over sized, everything else is close, I have a long bow my self and its almost as tall as I am.
Not that I mind the daggers as big as they are but short sword would have been a better name, and Great swords are commonly 6-7 feet long, and some zwiehanders ( spelling ) are 7-9 foot long.

A normal sword is 3 -1/2 to 5, and short sword is 1 1/2-3 feet long.

my long bow, Ignore the mess, I know it looks trashy, we just finished redoing the house, its much cleaner now.

Modifié par Titanmike357, 20 novembre 2009 - 02:57 .

[TheRealBrave]

The daggers are absurdly huge. The daggers look like friggin broad swords.

[Matthew Young CT]

Lots of people seem to have no idea how absolutely huge weapons used to be. Longbows as tall as a man, greatswords even longer etc.



It just looks sort of silly at times because the only people who would ever use these weapons were strong, large men. A little woman wielding one thus looks silly, because it is. Unless you want stat differences by gender and whatnot though...

[Wintermist]

They should have used them as short swords and added daggers too. Why hasn't this even occured to me until now...

[Titanmike357]

Matthew Young CT wrote...

Lots of people seem to have no idea how absolutely huge weapons used to be. Longbows as tall as a man, greatswords even longer etc.

It just looks sort of silly at times because the only people who would ever use these weapons were strong, large men. A little woman wielding one thus looks silly, because it is. Unless you want stat differences by gender and whatnot though...

yea, see my longbow for a size comparsion, I am 5'7 the long bow is 69" inches long un stung.

[Titanmike357]

may be represented as Zweihaender.

The De-zweihaender.ogg Zweihänder (help·info) (German for “two hander”, also called Bidenhänder or Bihänder), is a two-handed sword primarily of the Renaissance. The weapon is often called in the Western martial arts community as a Greatsword. It was created in Switzerland and was later used by German and Austrian troops too.

While implemented in Germany in the 14th century[citation needed], it gained renown during the 16th century as the hallmark weapon of the German Landsknechts from the time of Maximilian I. They were allegedly used by the front lines of the Landsknecht, where they would be used to hew through the opposing pikemen and spearmen whose spears presented a difficult barrier for normal weapons and cavalry.

Perhaps the best known user of a Zweihänder was Pier Gerlofs Donia who is reputed to have wielded it with such skill, strength, and efficiency that he managed to behead multiple people with it in a single blow. The Zweihänder ascribed to him is, as of 2008, on display in the Frisian museum. It has a length of 213 cm (84 in) and a weight of about 6.6 kg (14½ lb).[1]

The Zweihänder could be up to 180 cm (6 ft) long from the base of the pommel to the tip of the blade, with a 120–150 cm (4–5 ft) blade and 30–45 cm (1–1½ ft) hilt. The weight could range between 2 kg and 3.2 kg (4½–7 lb). However, a ceremonial Zweihänder, which was unsuitable for combat, could weigh up to 7 kg (16 lb).

Some were shorter, though. Earlier versions, in particular, often had an overall length of about 150 cm (5 ft), weighing as little as 1½ kg (3 lb 5 oz).

Modifié par Titanmike357, 20 novembre 2009 - 03:04 .

[Rolenka]

It's so you can see the weapons when you zoom out. And honestly, I never noticed.

[Damar Stiehl]

I agree on the daggers, they are more like short swords. Nothing wrong with that, they should've just been named "short swords".



A dagger is a flippin' KNIFE. The kind you stick in your boot, or wear on your belt, not on your back.

[Titanmike357]

http://www.thearma.o...ssays/2HGS.html



some swords that where used in history are as tall as a man, but yes, daggers on here should really be called short swords, regular swords are more like long swords or bastard swords, and the great weapons are about right.

[Darth_Shizz]

Matthew Young CT wrote... Unless you want stat differences by gender and whatnot though...

Or they could add gender specific weaponry. Instead of Ser Cauthrien having that greatsword, perhaps give her a broom...or a mop...or a feather duster!  

[Ekyri]

Small weapons are boring, would you honestly want to run around poking darkspawn with a butter knife? ech

[menasure]

the new trend in rpg's: ridiculously large weapons to look powerful. it's actually not that bad yet, especially when you consider how the size of characters in game can vary by itself. yes the daggers are too large but if they were not then some would probably post about "pocket knives on qunaris" or "where's my dagger in game?" for example.

anyway despite of a tendency to make things bigger than life some over-sized weapons are not completely fictional either indeed.
huge swords actually existed but they were mainly used for cavalry charges, more meant to cut opponents in half while riding than to really weild them like normal ones and as for axes: the really huge ones were only used for execution purposes so more like a man held guillotine.
but of course your average ogre in game could still use them nevertheless ... only it might actually be a dwarf you picked which even enlarges the big effect

Modifié par menasure, 20 novembre 2009 - 03:12 .

[Matthew Young CT]

Daggers are pretty much useless in an actual fight anyway, especially against someone in armor. So they should just rename them to short swords and daggers go *poof*.

[Iryth]

I actually like slight oversized weapons , some games i have played you barely see a mace or sword type weapon in your characters hand my only hope though is that of actual scabbards instead of weapons clueing to everyone backs lol.