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Sooo...how are kids gonna work with alien LIs?


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I thought miranda was made only using her fathers DNA? Didn't they make the mother part of it out his altered DNA or something equally silly?

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It would be physically impossible for Shepard to have children by any natural means with aliens, other than the Asari. As unrelated species that evolved on completely different words, they'd be biologically incompatible.

Technically even with the Asari, the child wouldn't be Shepard's biological child. 100% of it's genetic code would come from it's Asari mother.

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I don't know, do they have inter-planetary daycare in 2185? Mommy has to go assassinate some Cerberus operatives.

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Thomas9321 wrote...

If BioWare suddenly decide that cross species children are possible to appease the Talimancers I swear to God I will punch someone in the throat.


I really want to see you get away with that.  Bioware make inter-species procreation possible. =D

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Just FYI: any child you produce with Liara is not your child. It is 100% biologically an asari and composed completely of Liara's DNA (or the asari equivalent or whatever). Nothing of you is in there, nothing.

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Nashiktal wrote...

I thought miranda was made only using her fathers DNA? Didn't they make the mother part of it out his altered DNA or something equally silly?



She was, but the reasoning for it was basically, he was a maniac (probably thought the perfect woman could only come from him). I'm sure you could do enough tweaking between aliens that weren't too different in order to make a sort of Miranda, except without the "perfection" motive and with two sides of DNA; Change them until they're compatible. However, this would probably be nearly as complicated as the Lazarus Project, at least, and would be a bit of a stretch. Probably best to keep it fair and have a happily-ever-after ending that's so warm and fuzzy, it's easy to believe that they'd have children/adopt/whatever, or that they wouldn't.


Hope that's legible.

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For all we know, Shepard has a wife and kids that we don't know about.

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Mr.House wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

unless your alien LI is Liara, no kids for you.

Pretty much this, if you want to have a kid with Tali/Thane/Garrus, adopt. ME does not need disgusting baby hybirds that look like mutants.



Ah, yes, disagreeing with have children without calling them monsters. We have dismissed that claim.

Have you ever seen hybrid children in sci fi? They are... *shutters*


Hey guys, what's going on in here?

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Just FYI: any child you produce with Liara is not your child. It is 100% biologically an asari and composed completely of Liara's DNA (or the asari equivalent or whatever). Nothing of you is in there, nothing.


well... there's that theory that Asari take some of the best traits of their 'father'. Somebody had a post about it once, where they said that lthough the father species has no physical biological impact, because the melding is a mental process, the child will be psycologically similar to the 'father'.

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well... there's that theory that Asari take some of the best traits of their 'father'.


No, that is a cultural belief of the asari that has no scientific basis to it. Even a few asari you talk to in the games admit that the children don't actually inherit anything from the father.

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As fun as it would be, to sire a alien hybrid child, I just don't think Shepard is parent-material, least not a renegade Shepard. Could you imagine having this bloke as your Dad?:

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Good Luck and Stay Safe B)

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AngelicMachinery wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

unless your alien LI is Liara, no kids for you.

Pretty much this, if you want to have a kid with Tali/Thane/Garrus, adopt. ME does not need disgusting baby hybirds that look like mutants.



Ah, yes, disagreeing with have children without calling them monsters. We have dismissed that claim.

Have you ever seen hybrid children in sci fi? They are... *shutters*


Hey guys, what's going on in here?

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And that's why we use condoms.....

Seriously, though....no kids. That's just weird.

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Slurms McKenzie wrote...

As fun as it would be, to sire a alien hybrid child, I just don't think Shepard is parent-material, least not a renegade Shepard. Could you imagine having this bloke as your Dad?:

*snip*

Good Luck and Stay Safe B)

Sincerely,
Slurms McKenzie, King of the Jack Appreciation Society


At least littleShep wouldn't need to worry about being bullied at school!

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Adoption, tis gotta be. Asari get off lucky, the buggers. But any children possibilities with our other favourite aliens has got to be through adoption.

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Slurms McKenzie

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@ReallyRue

Hehehe, yeah you're not wrong, ReallyRue! It'd be scary to date one of his daughters too, you'll bring her home back before ten!

Good Luck and Stay Safe

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What about conveniently-available Prothean DnA-splicing technology? Only sapient species of their time? Bah! Lies! They brainwashed and absorbed other aliens races into their own!

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Antivenger wrote...

What about conveniently-available Prothean DnA-splicing technology? Only sapient species of their time? Bah! Lies! They brainwashed and absorbed other aliens races into their own!




Ah, yes, it all makes sense now! The Protheans are a conglomeration of species, all mixed together 51,000 years ago. And, like all colours mixed together make brown, all species mixed together make... Bugs! Image IPB




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Unfortunately he has to worry about killing her every time. Can't win them all.


Eh, her first exposure just ended up in a cold. She'll be inoculated to the Shep-athogens in no time.

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 They brainwashed and absorbed other aliens races into their own!


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You will be assimilated!

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FenrisDeSolar wrote...

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Nashiktal wrote...

There are only three ways you can have kids with an LI.

1. Adoption. It doesn't even have to be the same species as you or your LI.

2. Artificial insemination. It won't have the DNA of the parent not having the child, but it is a way to have a child with the actual birth process.

3. Test tube baby. Same way Miranda was born, in this way it will only have the DNA of the parent.

In reality though I doubt children will be mentioned at all, and if it is it will be a hint at the end of the game. Bioware writers have already explained their distaste of children in the romantic sense.


The Grey Warden in DA:O can have a child with Morrigan.


Not because they love each other, though. The child is not made so that they can play house in a few years. Morrigan wants to save the Warden's life, and the Warden, most likely wants to a) get laid, and B) survive. So a baby is made to suck up and contain the Archdemon's soul.


You can concieve a child with Morrigan even if you deny the ritual. The only thing required is sleeping with her once.

For example, my Human Male Warden romanced Morrigan (and obviously slept with her) but declined the ritual. She still got pregnant. The climax and ultimatum of the romance was obviously the birthing of a child. So stating that Bioware dislikes kids in RPG settings is remotely wrong.. since.. well, it's happened before.

However, I don't think crossbreeding should be possible. I really do have a sneaky feeling that Bioware will probably implant it though, just to please the adoring Tali fans.. but I think it'll personally cheapen the story. But oh well, what ever happens will happen.

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how are kids gonna work with alien LIs? They shouldn't shep should be sterile. Now if they want to adopt thats something else but its also something that belongs in fanfictions some people want it other don't.

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M-Taylor wrote...

You can concieve a child with Morrigan even if you deny the ritual. The only thing required is sleeping with her once.

For example, my Human Male Warden romanced Morrigan (and obviously slept with her) but declined the ritual. She still got pregnant. The climax and ultimatum of the romance was obviously the birthing of a child. So stating that Bioware dislikes kids in RPG settings is remotely wrong.. since.. well, it's happened before.

However, I don't think crossbreeding should be possible. I really do have a sneaky feeling that Bioware will probably implant it though, just to please the adoring Tali fans.. but I think it'll personally cheapen the story. But oh well, what ever happens will happen.


How would the ability to cross-breed cheapen the story when we already have Shepard being brought back from apparently nothing?:huh:

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Xeranx wrote...

M-Taylor wrote...

You can concieve a child with Morrigan even if you deny the ritual. The only thing required is sleeping with her once.

For example, my Human Male Warden romanced Morrigan (and obviously slept with her) but declined the ritual. She still got pregnant. The climax and ultimatum of the romance was obviously the birthing of a child. So stating that Bioware dislikes kids in RPG settings is remotely wrong.. since.. well, it's happened before.

However, I don't think crossbreeding should be possible. I really do have a sneaky feeling that Bioware will probably implant it though, just to please the adoring Tali fans.. but I think it'll personally cheapen the story. But oh well, what ever happens will happen.


How would the ability to cross-breed cheapen the story when we already have Shepard being brought back from apparently nothing?:huh:


I'd rather my "Magic science" stick to ressurection and the like,  not terrorifying babies.

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SilentNukee wrote...
My Shep can "father" her children. :wizard:


Its not really her kid per se, Liara's just randomizing her own DNA using Shep's nervous system.

Don't fall for Asari propaganda! ;)

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AngelicMachinery wrote...

I'd rather my "Magic science" stick to ressurection and the like,  not terrorifying babies.


The like is bio-engineered hybrids.  That's been prevalent in scifi for I don't know how long.