[quote]Arcian wrote...
First of all, her arrogance and snappy behavior: When in the trial, she has an outburst and calls Admiral Koris a bosh'tet for suggesting she is looking for an honorable death fighting the geth instead of being exiled, and she says what she really wants is to look for her father. Now, I'm not saying Koris wasn't being a douche at the time or that Tali was lying, but she's really goddamn arrogant to have the gall to insult not only one of her goddamn judges, but also one of her people's highest leaders. The fact that her father was an admiral doesn't justify this - a princess can't insult the king of another country without repercussions. And what's worse - she's not even reprimanded for this behavior. No one even calls her out on it. This, in my opinion, is bad writing.
You might think that bosh'tet was warranted, but I personally think she was being incredibly childish and immature for letting herself have an outburst like that, no matter the reasons. It's one thing to call him a bosh'tet in private or between her and Shepard, but not to his face and not during a bloody trial - HER trial, no less.[/quote]
That's not arrogant nor snappy at all.
Just not very smart.
OK I can at least where you're coming from here.
Not agreeing but OK.
[quote]Then we have the Jacob issue after she is recruited, when he is being completely amiable toward her during the entirety of the scene and she just throws veiled insults in his face as a response. People keep thinking the "Introduce yourself to the ship AI,"-line is Jacob being childishly vengeful for Tali's behavior, but it's just a matter-of-fact statement that she should introduce herself to EDI so she won't get scared sh!tless when she suddenly hears an AI talking to her down in engineering. And she gets massively upset over it.[/quote]
Well you do have to see from Tali's side that Cerberus killed a lot of her people in Ascension. So her being rude to Jacob is not something out of her character.
Also that scene makes Jacob a bit awesome for pretty much saying "f*ck you" to Tali for being very rude to him.
[quote]Of course, most fanboys (not just for the ME franchise) like belligerent tsunderes with an attitude, so this might not be such a big surprise.[/quote]
Point?
[quote]And really, the writers were NOT subtle with her Shepard worship. On Haestrom, almost every single of her journals has to cram in a line about how awesome Shepard is, or how she misses Shepard or wishes s/he was there. I mean, talk about not being focused on the task at hand! No wonder her people all got themselves killed, considering she was day-dreaming about Shepard instead of leading them![/quote]
That's a very petty argument.
Even if she did only did that, I don't think she would be responsible for Geth finding them and slaughter them.
Quarian Marines aren't really impressive( their failure to take over that ship in Tali LM).
So not really Tali to blame.
Then again Tali did had quite a ride with Shepard.
How many times you have opportunity to save galaxy?
[quote]And of all the squadmates besides Jack, she is the one to constantly second-guess Shepard for his involvement with Cerberus, despite being REPEATEDLY told that Cerberus are the only ones doing anything about the human disappearances and that going with them is strictly a temporary evil (if you're a paragon). Garrus at least has the decency to admit having Cerberus on board was kind of nice, if only for the equipment and resources, even if the relationship was bound to be shortlived.
Then it's the melodrama...[/quote]
Ascension.
Check Wiki if you can't get the book.
Also she's nothing more anti-Cerberus then Anderson on Citadel.
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Loyalty Mission:
Tali: Shepard, I'm scared because I have to go on trial and I don't know why, and I can get exiled, please hoooold me!
Shepard: You risk your life every day fighting Reapers, collectors and mercenaries, but you're scared of going to a trial? I'd rather go on trial than fight, all day every day of the week.
Tali: Also, pls don't involve Cerberus, I don't like them.
Shepard: I'm working for them, using their equipment, serving on their ship with their crew and I report in to their leader - they cannot
not be involved in any feasible way.
Tali: But still.
Shepard: Well I can't do anything about it, so deal with it.
Tali: CERBERUS IS BAAAAD :'([/quote]
That didn't happen.
Also she's being trial for TREASON! And doesn't know why.
I don't think I would much different if my country decided to trial me for treason without telling me why until I get to court.
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Tali: You stupid bosh'tet, admiral Koris, you!
Shepard: *whispering* Psst, insulting your judge might not be the best way to get exonerated.
Tali: *politically insensitive temper tantrum*[/quote]
Well it was her father in question.
Not smart but not really something out of her character.
[quote]
Tali: OH NO, Shepard! My dad is dead! Please give me some sympathy! :'(
Shepard: My entire family was murdered on Mindoir, and my team of 50 marines were killed on Akuze by thresher maws. Where is your sympathy for
me?
Tali: That blue thing is flashing! Please hug me!
Shepard: Why? I've already maxed my paragon points.
Tali: :'([/quote]
Where did she tell you "HUG ME" or asked for sympathy.
Wait, I can't avoid Liara's hugging no matter what.
Why you don't dislike her too?
THERE'S A CHOICE THERE!
Oh and same for Garrus in his romance.
Why ain't you b*tching about that too?
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=]5 minutes later...
Shepard: Well, what do you know... your dad is quarian hitler. You know, the little sympathy I had back there when we found him? It's gone now.
Tali: :'(
Tali: Shepard, because my dad dun goofed, we have to withhold the evidence so he won't get historically demonized for something he was legally and morally responsible for, even if it means I get exiled which I was mortally afraid of just a couple of hours ago.
Shepard: Wait, you want us to withhold the evidence JUST to prevent his name from being rightfully smeared? Not to, I don't know, keep your people together so they can help me fight the Reapers when that day comes?
Tali: :'(
Shepard: Are... are you grimacing under there? I can't see a thing. The visor is too opaque.
Tali: :'([/quote]
Well let's not forget that showing this evidence puts Quarians in political total mess.
Hell some ships started to leave.
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Romance:
Shepard: Hey, Tali, I just wanted to come down and hear how the engines are runni-
Tali: Shepard I have loved you from the first day I saw you and every day since.
Shepard: Wait, what? I just gave you some geth data, Jesus Christ.
Tali:
Tali: Shepard, having sex with you might kill me, but I want to do it because i LOOOOOOVE you. *swoon*
Shepard: Trust me, I'm not that good.
Tali: TAKE ME TO PLEASURETOWN, CAPTAIN.
Shepard: I should go.[/quote]
You're overexadurating.
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Confrontation with Legioni:
Tali: Shepard, I want to shoot Legion into scrap metal because he tried warning his people that my people are still butthurt over them getting defeated and driven off the homeworld in a fair war against the geth after trying to perpetrate unwarranted genocide against them for becoming too intelligent and self-aware to maintain as willing slaves, and that my people will attempt to attack the homeworld and destroy the geth despite the geth being perfectly willing to give the planet away if the quarians could just get their heads out of their own asses, calm down and stop being so belligerent.
Shepard: EDI just noticed an outgoing data package to the Migrant Fleet containing information from the Heretic Station, so I don't really know what you're getting so asshurt over. Leave Legion alone.
Tali: *racially insensitive temper tantrum before storming off*
Legion: Tali-Creator seems unaware that our exterior shell is 72% polymer.
Shepard: *shrug*
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