Why is it that people hate the fact that KOTOR got turned into an MMO and that ME might get an MMO after ME3?
I think it would be pretty cool to have an ME3, creating your character from any race, then running around a fully designed Citadel or Omega with your friends, or having your own customizeable starship. You could be a miner, or a merchant, or be a freelance merc, or join one of the Terminus Merc bands, the list goes on.
Why all the hate for MMOs?
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thesilverlinedviking
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 11:50
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A company running two MMOs at the same time? Good luck with that if your hoping either will be a "WoW-slayer". I also have yet to find a MMORPG that doesn't get boring after awhile.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 11:51
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People are whiney and do nothing but **** about multiplayer in games.
Personally, I think the Mass Effect universe is great grounds for something along the lines of an MMO, but it's a longshot. The Old Republic isn't even out yet, two MMO's from Bioware?
Personally, I think the Mass Effect universe is great grounds for something along the lines of an MMO, but it's a longshot. The Old Republic isn't even out yet, two MMO's from Bioware?
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 11:53
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ReconTeam wrote...
I also have yet to find a MMORPG that doesn't get boring after awhile.
I've yet to find any game that doesn't get boring after a while.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 11:54
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I'd love a good MMO. What people fear is a bad MMO which ruins the IP.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 11:54
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Maderek wrote...
ReconTeam wrote...
I also have yet to find a MMORPG that doesn't get boring after awhile.
I've yet to find any game that doesn't get boring after a while.
I feel I get burnt out on some games after a while but after a hiatus I can revisit them and have fun again. I still play my Dreamcast religiously.
MMORPGs make you feel obligated to play because you have other online friends who are depending on you. I don't want that kind of responsibility when playing a game. It's a leisure activity, not a job.
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Posté 19 juin 2011 - 11:57
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thesilverlinedviking wrote...
Why is it that people hate the fact that KOTOR got turned into an MMO and that ME might get an MMO after ME3?
Short answer: http://static.fjcdn....d15c_198209.png
Long answer: In terms of storytelling, an MMO where you "farm for items and do quests as groups" where teens flirt or talk about sports can never reach the prestige of a single player RPG. Judging by what we've seen so far, TOR doesn't look promising at all, and KotOR 3 with much less amount of resources could be a much greater game.
Personally I'll play The Old Republic after it flops (which unfortunately, it will) and enjoy its content as a F2P MMO.
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:06
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i dont think SWTOR will do as well as EA and bioware hope it will, so i doubt they'd double down and make another MMO.
as for MMO's in general? well its that they're extremely EXTREMELY huge time sinks. you gotta play for a month to even start doing the good dungeons. it gets tedious really fast. the only time i ever had fun playing MMOs was when i was playing with a group of friends, and then it was more about me and my friends hanging otu and chatting than the actual game itself.
as for MMO's in general? well its that they're extremely EXTREMELY huge time sinks. you gotta play for a month to even start doing the good dungeons. it gets tedious really fast. the only time i ever had fun playing MMOs was when i was playing with a group of friends, and then it was more about me and my friends hanging otu and chatting than the actual game itself.
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:14
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Clonedzero wrote...
i dont think SWTOR will do as well as EA and bioware hope it will, so i doubt they'd double down and make another MMO.
as for MMO's in general? well its that they're extremely EXTREMELY huge time sinks. you gotta play for a month to even start doing the good dungeons. it gets tedious really fast. the only time i ever had fun playing MMOs was when i was playing with a group of friends, and then it was more about me and my friends hanging otu and chatting than the actual game itself.
The huge timesink thing makes sense. But the people who have the time are also the ones that start spitting acid as soon as TOR is mentioned. Looks like it's just a drastic change for the developer that always made epic single player RPGs and people are just reacting badly.
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:14
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The players can never be allowed to do anything that has any impact on the game at all.
Plus most of them are based almost entirely on grinding and slot machine mechanics.
Plus most of them are based almost entirely on grinding and slot machine mechanics.
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:16
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because I dislike sharing my deep rich indepth story with a bunch of other people
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:19
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we dont wanna interact with whiny 12yrolds
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:21
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I don't hate them just remember when there was more RPG elements in them no its just a kill a kill b type deal. well was always that. But now we get leet speech.
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:21
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It's not that I don't want an ME MMO because I hate MMO's, but because I want Bioware to keep focusing on SP RPG's.
Making an MMO would sink a lot of time/resources from the ME team in something I don't really care about, I mean, I don't want to be selfish or anything if there's an audience that wants BioWare to do it I understand, personally I just don't like the idea.
Making an MMO would sink a lot of time/resources from the ME team in something I don't really care about, I mean, I don't want to be selfish or anything if there's an audience that wants BioWare to do it I understand, personally I just don't like the idea.
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:22
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When is the old republic sppouse to be out anyhow
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:24
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Talosred wrote...
When is the old republic sppouse to be out anyhow
Bioware's very evasive about that. All they said is that it will be out sometime this year.
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:24
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I don't have the time for an MMO, and I don't have the interest in playing with other people. When I want to hang out with people, I want to actually do things: go out and party, play sports, or just hang out and chill. An SP game is my 'time alone' release. An MMO is the opposite of that.
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:28
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In Exile wrote...
I don't have the time for an MMO, and I don't have the interest in playing with other people. When I want to hang out with people, I want to actually do things: go out and party, play sports, or just hang out and chill. An SP game is my 'time alone' release. An MMO is the opposite of that.
giggity..... that sounded wrong.........
sorry couldn't help it
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:28
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BW's already gone down the MMO road. They have still made sp experiences. Will that continue in the future? Who knows, but the cat's already out of the bag. TOR is exciting to me in that it is many single-player experiences all in one (100+ hours of material per class? With multiple branching story points? With the ability to forge relationships, romantic and otherwise, with NPCs? YES PLEASE.), but with all the multiplayer experiences individuals desiring such mechanics could desire.
MMO's are not always designed to require you to interact with other players in any meaningfully deep capacity. In all the MMO's I have played, I have largely played as a solo gamer (and ventured into group experiences just to see what it was like...or because I pitied another player who needed help.).
That isn't to say I am ignorant of many of the worries expressed. I do share them and have seen many bad MMO's drag companies under, and have seen otherwise good MMO's get dragged under by bad companies. But there is also the potential for something really wonderful.
MMO's are not always designed to require you to interact with other players in any meaningfully deep capacity. In all the MMO's I have played, I have largely played as a solo gamer (and ventured into group experiences just to see what it was like...or because I pitied another player who needed help.).
That isn't to say I am ignorant of many of the worries expressed. I do share them and have seen many bad MMO's drag companies under, and have seen otherwise good MMO's get dragged under by bad companies. But there is also the potential for something really wonderful.
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:41
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The hate for MMOs............oh boy were do I start. Why do I have to pay for the game and then pay to play it with other people that I don't even wanna play with. MMOs suck.
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:43
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crimzontearz wrote...
giggity..... that sounded wrong.........
sorry couldn't help it
Given Fox News and ME1, and then TW2... who says you are wrong?
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:44
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People here hate MMOs because they are primarily single player gamers. Go to the SWTOR forums and you will find people who love MMOs and hate single player games.
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:44
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PinkDiamondstl wrote...
The hate for MMOs............oh boy were do I start. Why do I have to pay for the game and then pay to play it with other people that I don't even wanna play with. MMOs suck.
So you don't hate MMO's per say, you just rather play singpleplayer?!
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:45
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PinkDiamondstl wrote...
The hate for MMOs............oh boy were do I start. Why do I have to pay for the game and then pay to play it with other people that I don't even wanna even play with.
Because you aren't necessarily paying to play with other people. You would be, of course, if those are the mechanics you want to take advantage of. No, initial box sales are normally meant to recoup costs of development and
initial set-up of infrastructure, advertising, and so forth. The subscription is because you are directly paying for the continued upkeep of the game (servers, electricity and other utilities, developer salaries, staff, etc.) and continued content creation.
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Posté 20 juin 2011 - 12:48
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ArcanistLibram wrote...
The players can never be allowed to do anything that has any impact on the game at all.
Plus most of them are based almost entirely on grinding and slot machine mechanics.
This. You are one of a million 'nobodies' in an mmo. In Baldur's Gate II, you were the Bhaalspawn. In Jade Empire, you were the last of the spirit monks. In Origins, you were the hero of Fereldan. MMOs can't really offer that, not when every player must be treated equally.
I've also found that MMOs tend to be very 'grind-heavy' which is something I'm against. I like killing things, but moreso when there is a motivation involved. Bioware claims to be fixing this with TOR, but I'm not impressed based on what I've seen. I'd take KotOR 3 over the MMO in a heartbeat.
