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[King Zeel]

As soon as Bioware introduce the whole romance concept, gaming itself was revolutionized. I remember my first experiences with virtual romances in Baldur's Gate 2, it was fun, cheesy at times, confusing (i romanced Viconia) and added a layer of depth to the game.


Then Bioware made Mass Effect 2, and all sh!t went to hell. Suddenly, it was less about character development and more about SHAGGING DAT SEXI ALIEN!!! Instead of romances adding to the game, it became a detraction. (A BIG ONE) No more do romances explore character personalities, introduce new plot points or dig deeper into the core of the game. It's all about fan-fetish-alien sex action with your favourite bucket wearing tramp.


I'm a fan of Bioware and a big fan of Mass Effect trilogy, so it saddens me to see my game reduced to some sort of Japanese fetish stew; tentacles, rape, triangles, rockets-to-theface, assassins galore. Like the bloody soap opera crap that my mother watches. This problem, I believe, lies in the fact that they're aliens. Bioware has sensualized aliens and made it less about their personalities and more about making fanservice 'interactive'.  I understand this game tries to appeal to sci-fi nerds but come on.

When was sexing another species "cool"?

Don't get me started on the lame sex scenes. bleh. Never again do I want to see  Female shepard's forehead rest against Garrus'. distrubing.

[GodWood]

You were disturbed by the head bump?

I thought it was too tame.
Where's my freaky hardcore raptor porn Bioware!?!?!?

[ladyvader]

Let me ask you this. Did you have a problem with DA:O? Elves are having sex with dwarfs or humans. I don't see the difference between that and being with Thane, Garrus, Tali, or Liara in ME.

[Eshaye]

You know you don't have to pursue those romances if they disturb you? I admit I think the whole alien romance thing is odd, that's why I don't go there...

[Raiil]

 Alien sex? In my vidja games?





Besides, it's not a real soap opera until someone loses an eye.

[ladyvader]

Valentia X wrote...

 Alien sex? In my vidja games?





Besides, it's not a real soap opera until someone loses an eye.

LMFAO!!!!

[King Zeel]

Eshaye wrote...

You know you don't have to pursue those romances if they disturb you? I admit I think the whole alien romance thing is odd, that's why I don't go there...

I'm so tired of seeing this response on the board. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this... but the whole alien cross species thing can't be ignored.. It's balantly there, they hit on you, they jump through hoops to suck your face, I mean it's not something my shepard could avoid.  Honestly, I didn't even speak to Tali in me1 or me2 and guess what? She still wanted to "link our body suits".



Well maybe if I close my eyes, plug my ears and yell really loudly I might be able to ignore alien romance. Unfortunately, that doesn't stop Bioware from wasting a large portion of development time and money on fufilling these sci-fi's ridiculous fetish-y quirks.

[ladyvader]

King Zeel wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

You know you don't have to pursue those romances if they disturb you? I admit I think the whole alien romance thing is odd, that's why I don't go there...

I'm so tired of seeing this response on the board. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this... but the whole alien cross species thing can't be ignored.. It's balantly there, they hit on you, they jump through hoops to suck your face, I mean it's not something my shepard could avoid.  Honestly, I didn't even speak to Tali in me1 or me2 and guess what? She still wanted to "link our body suits".



Well maybe if I close my eyes, plug my ears and yell really loudly I might be able to ignore alien romance. Unfortunately, that doesn't stop Bioware from wasting a large portion of development time and money on fufilling these sci-fi's ridiculous fetish-y quirks.

Actually, you can ignore it.  It's called using the middle repsonse instead of the top right one.  If you always pick that one, you won't be in a romance with anyone.  

You are all over the place.  Your complaining on this thread, but cool with human only relations in another.  And I like how you ignored my question.  So, I'm going to think you have a problem with human/elf/dwarf relations in DA:O as well.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

ladyvader wrote...

Let me ask you this. Did you have a problem with DA:O? Elves are having sex with dwarfs or humans. I don't see the difference between that and being with Thane, Garrus, Tali, or Liara in ME.

It actually is different. Elves, humans, and dwarves are all able to have viable children when they have sex. That means that these three groups aren't different specie but rather very different races of the same specie. However quarians, turiand ect are clearly entirely differen't specie so there could be disturbing to some people.

[ladyvader]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

Let me ask you this. Did you have a problem with DA:O? Elves are having sex with dwarfs or humans. I don't see the difference between that and being with Thane, Garrus, Tali, or Liara in ME.

It actually is different. Elves, humans, and dwarves are all able to have viable children when they have sex. That means that these three groups aren't different specie but rather very different races of the same specie. However quarians, turiand ect are clearly entirely differen't specie so there could be disturbing to some people.

Humans can not reproduce with anyone outside of humans in ME.  Even if a human or any other species is with an asari their children are asari, not some cross breed like a human/elf. 

[King Zeel]

ladyvader wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

You know you don't have to pursue those romances if they disturb you? I admit I think the whole alien romance thing is odd, that's why I don't go there...

I'm so tired of seeing this response on the board. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this... but the whole alien cross species thing can't be ignored.. It's balantly there, they hit on you, they jump through hoops to suck your face, I mean it's not something my shepard could avoid.  Honestly, I didn't even speak to Tali in me1 or me2 and guess what? She still wanted to "link our body suits".



Well maybe if I close my eyes, plug my ears and yell really loudly I might be able to ignore alien romance. Unfortunately, that doesn't stop Bioware from wasting a large portion of development time and money on fufilling these sci-fi's ridiculous fetish-y quirks.

Actually, you can ignore it.  It's called using the middle repsonse instead of the top right one.  If you always pick that one, you won't be in a romance with anyone.  

You are all over the place.  Your complaining on this thread, but cool with human only relations in another.  And I like how you ignored my question.  So, I'm going to think you have a problem with human/elf/dwarf relations in DA:O as well.

So, let me get this straight. My playing experience should be compromised to accomdate the creepy sci-fi nerds? You must be mad. I pick the options that I want, not the middle option just so I can activatly avoid something I didn't want in the first place. How about Bioware just stop making all the aliens romanceable? Someone please explain to me why a Turian would even think of romancing a human? Madness.

Quarians don't even have faces and they want to romance my Shepard? Is logic and canon completely foreign to this triology or what?


I thought I did you a favour by ignoring your question. for one it's stupid and another thing some other dude wasted his time to answer it. DWARVES/ELVES are not the same thing as aliens. So, done.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Which was the entire point of my post. Its different because humans, elves and Dwarves are just different races while in ME you can roll around with a bird/insect or a walking frog there could easily be an ew factor with some people.

[Raiil]

And if humans and elves mate in Dragon Age, the child comes out fully human.


THIS JUST IN, HUMANS ARE ASARI. More at eleven.

The game gives you human love interests in both games; it's not like there's a assignment wherein Shepard has to hump Mordin for science in order to propel the mission forward. You have options. The scenes are not that explicit, and I promise you, there are no surprise tests afterwards asking you to describe, in detail, the hotness of human/alien sexings.

[Raiil]

King Zeel wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

You know you don't have to pursue those romances if they disturb you? I admit I think the whole alien romance thing is odd, that's why I don't go there...

I'm so tired of seeing this response on the board. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this... but the whole alien cross species thing can't be ignored.. It's balantly there, they hit on you, they jump through hoops to suck your face, I mean it's not something my shepard could avoid.  Honestly, I didn't even speak to Tali in me1 or me2 and guess what? She still wanted to "link our body suits".



Well maybe if I close my eyes, plug my ears and yell really loudly I might be able to ignore alien romance. Unfortunately, that doesn't stop Bioware from wasting a large portion of development time and money on fufilling these sci-fi's ridiculous fetish-y quirks.

Actually, you can ignore it.  It's called using the middle repsonse instead of the top right one.  If you always pick that one, you won't be in a romance with anyone.  

You are all over the place.  Your complaining on this thread, but cool with human only relations in another.  And I like how you ignored my question.  So, I'm going to think you have a problem with human/elf/dwarf relations in DA:O as well.

So, let me get this straight. My playing experience should be compromised to accomdate the creepy sci-fi nerds? You must be mad. I pick the options that I want, not the middle option just so I can activatly avoid something I didn't want in the first place. How about Bioware just stop making all the aliens romanceable? Someone please explain to me why a Turian would even think of romancing a human? Madness.

Quarians don't even have faces and they want to romance my Shepard? Is logic and canon completely foreign to this triology or what?


I thought I did you a favour by ignoring your question. for one it's stupid and another thing some other dude wasted his time to answer it. DWARVES/ELVES are not the same thing as aliens. So, done.

So, let me get this straight. My playing experience should be compromised to accomdate the puritans who think  anything that isn't human/human pixelated forms on a screen is bad? You must be mad. I pick the options that I think are appropiate for my character. Why should I have to renegade a response just to shoot Jacob down? I didn't want it in the first place! Someone please explain to me why two people who saw Shepard come in as meat and tubes would think about romancing them at all? Madness.

tl;dr play the character, and avoid the awkward interspecial romances at your choosing. 

[King Zeel]

Valentia X wrote...

And if humans and elves mate in Dragon Age, the child comes out fully human.


THIS JUST IN, HUMANS ARE ASARI. More at eleven.

The game gives you human love interests in both games; it's not like there's a assignment wherein Shepard has to hump Mordin for science in order to propel the mission forward. You have options. The scenes are not that explicit, and I promise you, there are no surprise tests afterwards asking you to describe, in detail, the hotness of human/alien sexings.

The option is ridiculous to begin with. Most of these aliens look nothing like humans, probably don't even have similar organs and yet my Shepard would want to shank them? Did I miss something? The time wasted on their romance paths could of been used elsewhere, like the HUMAN romances. Can't the aliens just be like good friends and stuff? Why did Bioware cross the line? hell, they ran over it repeatedly.

[Raiil]

Because you, King Zeel, represent one tiny drop in the sea of fans. A lot of us want/enjoy the alien romances, and others who exclusively romance humans somehow don't begrudge us, call us creepy sci-fi nerds, and are generally down with the fanbase enjoying the game as we see fit.

Crazy, innit?

[DaveExclamationMarkYognaut]

Shep sleeping with aliens is less of a problem than Shep sleeping with subordinates. (Although it is, at least in the case of Tali, monumentally silly haha.)

[ISpeakTheTruth]

I don't totally agree with King but I can see where he's coming from. Think of a mermaid, oh she looks hot being half human and half fish but what with her lower half being fish sex for her is dropping her eggs on the bed and having you do the nasty on them... not too sexy.

The idea that there are so many differen't species that would have sex that was anywhere even remotely compatable with humans is a bit silly.

Garrus: Shepard what are you doing? Why are you taking off your cloths?
Shepard: I'm getting ready to have sex.
Garrus: But we just had sex.
Shepard: What do you mean we just touched foreheads?
Garrus: Yes, that's how Turians have sex... why what do you do?
*Shepard explains human sex*
Garrus: THAT'S DISGUSTING!!!

[GodWood]

King Zeel wrote...
The option is ridiculous to begin with. Most of these aliens look nothing like humans,

I think they look too human myself. 

yet my Shepard would want to shank them?

No but others would.

It's not that hard a concept to grasp.

[King Zeel]

Valentia X wrote...

Because you, King Zeel, represent one tiny drop in the sea of fans. A lot of us want/enjoy the alien romances, and others who exclusively romance humans somehow don't begrudge us, call us creepy sci-fi nerds, and are generally down with the fanbase enjoying the game as we see fit.

Crazy, innit?

And, you, the "sea of fans" have reduce Mass Effect series to what we have now. A big mess of fanservice, unnecessary romances, silly addons, less rpg elements, shorter gamplay. So yes, i'm going to be "upset" that your fetish has wriggled its way into the game and detracted greatly from it while doing it.


Keep in mind, I didn't complain about same-sex romance paths until you guys wanted to pervert some of the straight characters. The fanbase asks for too much and takes away twice as much.

Modifié par King Zeel, 20 juin 2011 - 04:35 .

[KainrycKarr]

Look at his join date. Look at his outlandish posts.

Troll.

On-topic, though, I suppose you think Star Trek and Star Wars are creepy and crossing the line too because they were doing this long before ME.

And, for the record, you complain about what the ME has come to, yet, you do realize Liara was one of the ORIGINAL LI's, right?

Op is an idiot and clearly looking to rile people up.

[Raiil]

Seeing as I'm very late to the ME series- I only picked it up in the last few months- I doubt I can personally be held accountable for the romance 'issues', such as they are.

Perhaps that's the way you see it. I find Mass Effect to be engaging on many levels; in the Thane thread, we had an interesting discussion on whether Keprals was a biological or genetic disease. Debates on the philosophies in-game, the morality and ethical dilemmas Shepard faces, the scientific fallacies we stumble across, real life analogies of battles, cultural clashes and and even weapons modification- these are all debates that have been spawned in these forums, some quite popular, where fans of all stripes have come to compare and contrast.

People like you come into the forum set aside specifically for character appreciation and romances and bawl because you think it's weird that some people prefer the alien LI, as if it's the only thing people enjoy and choose to discuss. Completely ignoring the other forums set aside for gameplay mechanics, historical comparison, worries and hopes for the RPGness of the next saga. Acting as if taking enjoyment for a fictional character is somehow perverse, when it's in fact an activity millions of people in dozens of fandoms enjoy.

You're the one coming in with accusations about people you don't know and making assumptions about their general character, all while bleating about how your particular LI isn't getting enough 'love'- that is to say, you want more dialogue and think it should be taken away from a just as legit part of the fanbase because somehow, your views are the only correct one and therefore the rest of us should just nod our heads and deal with it.


No thanks.

[leggywillow]

King Zeel wrote...
When was sexing another species "cool"?

The defense rests.