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[PauseforEffect]

Once upon a time,
People had severe issues with interracial couples.
And why?
Because they were too different.
Humans as a species have a very flexible ability to love nearly everything. Our capacity to relate to someone, to be drawn to what's exotic (perhaps instinct to increase genetic variability?) and overlook minor physical differences is what allows us to connect beyond a narrowminded viewpoint.
People who choose an alien character for their Shepard do it mainly for emotional reasons, not solely for physical. Besides, propagation's not an issue since there's plenty of other humans to keep the species going.
And I'm still not certain Shepard's able to have kids after being killed.

[Nashiktal]

Wasn't you main point already argued? Besides in universe it is already proven that long term alien relationships can, and do happen.

I'm sorry if you don't like that, but that is how it is in the ME and indeed many sci-fi universes. If you would like to see a universe with what you deem more realistic alien relationships, I reccomend you read Sassinak by Anne McCaffrey. Unlike her freedom's landing books, the generation warriors series actually touches upon alien and human relationships, mainly how it doesn't work out for the protagonist.

[King Zeel]

PrimalEden wrote...

Once upon a time,
People had severe issues with interracial couples.
And why?
Because they were too different.
Humans as a species have a very flexible ability to love nearly everything. Our capacity to relate to someone, to be drawn to what's exotic (perhaps instinct to increase genetic variability?) and overlook minor physical differences is what allows us to connect beyond a narrowminded viewpoint.
People who choose an alien character for their Shepard do it mainly for emotional reasons, not solely for physical. Besides, propagation's not an issue since there's plenty of other humans to keep the species going.
And I'm still not certain Shepard's able to have kids after being killed.

big stretch between skin tone and different ORGANS AND PHYSICAL MAKEUP.

try-A-GAIN

[DoNotIngest]

King Zeel wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

Tali and my shephard:

Common interest?
Quarian plight, quarian/geth conflict, engineering.

Common background?
Eartborn orphan meets newly orphaned quarian.

Same cultural norms?
Sure.... Quarians aren't all that different.


Able to reproduce?
Not important.

Saved the universe together?
Not important either...

The fact the the TrollP hasn't responded likely means that your post is the least easily trolled. Well done!



Shep Engineer FTW!

didn't you label this topic a Troll topic quite a few pages ago? go about your business, leave us trolls to the caves. Hmmm?

[Golden Owl]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

You do know that opinions are not actual facts, right? In your opinion they're not human enough for you personally to be attracted to them and you yourself are not able to find other aspects of them such as personality/confidence sexy enough to make up for it in your eyes. That doesn't make your experience universal, nor your argument based on factual evidence, nor you in the majority or otherwise 'correct'. Actual fact: lots of people are attracted to Tali, Garrus and Thane, thus lack of attraction is not an issue. That pretty much destroys your argument.

You do know it's only because his Shep can't knock them up...that's what the whole issue is about.

[the_one_54321]

King Zeel wrote...
When was sexing another species "cool"?

The alien-love thing is seriously disturbing. And I'm not trying to be funny. Different species is different species. Ick.

Modifié par the_one_54321, 21 juin 2011 - 02:05 .

[Bachi1230]

King Zeel wrote...

Bachi1230 wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

titaniumHOG wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

Arggggggggggh. Enough tali fans! she is not human-looking enough! Deal with it! freaking unbelievable the lengths ya'll go to defend your precious romancee.

Let me break this to you guys, she isn't human enough. i can't see her face, thats enough to disqualify herself from the Asarian category. When and if she is revealed then come back to me. Right now, the facts are clear, she looks like a Paris' Hilton's dog all dressed up.

It's called debating dumba** you give a point someone retaliates maybe if you could have a conversation like a adult and have legitimate reasons for supporting your theroy people would take your side but you don't your the guy that just screams his stupid reason louder thinking he is right when he just sounds retarded, useally when everyone disagress with you....your wrong
troll ownd

Don't you raise your fking virtual tone at me. I've been nothing but patient with you guys. And what do I get? 12 pages of redundant crap. If you haven't noticed, I have been single-handily thwarting all points being thrown at my topic. Its you members who have no idea how to debate. Instead of focusing on my point, you pick a side point and try to argue that to death.

Example: alien relationships are NOT PLAUSIBLE!!!!!
You guys: OMGOMGOMGOMG SHE LOOKS HUMAN SORTA!!! IM ON MEDICATION!!!!

So sorry, I'm done with it. you guys can take it and shove it up your arses.

Why aren't alien relationships plausable?
A relationship isn't just a physical one.  Also you seem ok with shepard hooking up with Liara who is guess what? an alien.  Also you are the one who started the "Human Looking enough" arguement.

They aren't, because humans can't be in a relationship without a PHYSICAL attraction. I know relationships consist of much more than just sex, but its still a large component of a healthy relationship! I know you guys dont want to admit it, but its true. The relationship is not logical, its' fanservice. Plain and simple.



Shepard can hook up with Liara because, hassshaaah he can copulate with her, make babies, and she looks like a blue human! Again, difference is right there.

All romances are Fan service, they do not effect the story and are there for character development.

[titaniumHOG]

King Zeel wrote...

Bachi1230 wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

titaniumHOG wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

Arggggggggggh. Enough tali fans! she is not human-looking enough! Deal with it! freaking unbelievable the lengths ya'll go to defend your precious romancee.

Let me break this to you guys, she isn't human enough. i can't see her face, thats enough to disqualify herself from the Asarian category. When and if she is revealed then come back to me. Right now, the facts are clear, she looks like a Paris' Hilton's dog all dressed up.

It's called debating dumba** you give a point someone retaliates maybe if you could have a conversation like a adult and have legitimate reasons for supporting your theroy people would take your side but you don't your the guy that just screams his stupid reason louder thinking he is right when he just sounds retarded, useally when everyone disagress with you....your wrong
troll ownd

Don't you raise your fking virtual tone at me. I've been nothing but patient with you guys. And what do I get? 12 pages of redundant crap. If you haven't noticed, I have been single-handily thwarting all points being thrown at my topic. Its you members who have no idea how to debate. Instead of focusing on my point, you pick a side point and try to argue that to death.

Example: alien relationships are NOT PLAUSIBLE!!!!!
You guys: OMGOMGOMGOMG SHE LOOKS HUMAN SORTA!!! IM ON MEDICATION!!!!

So sorry, I'm done with it. you guys can take it and shove it up your arses.

Why aren't alien relationships plausable?
A relationship isn't just a physical one.  Also you seem ok with shepard hooking up with Liara who is guess what? an alien.  Also you are the one who started the "Human Looking enough" arguement.

They aren't, because humans can't be in a relationship without a PHYSICAL attraction. I know relationships consist of much more than just sex, but its still a large component of a healthy relationship! I know you guys dont want to admit it, but its true. The relationship is not logical, its' fanservice. Plain and simple.



Shepard can hook up with Liara because, hassshaaah he can copulate with her, make babies, and she looks like a blue human! Again, difference is right there.

your saying there is no realationship on this planet that can not NO MATTER WHAT succed without physical attraction? there is no logic behind that statement, how can you say that there isnt one realationship ever that has exsisted without physical attraction?

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

the_one_54321 wrote...

King Zeel wrote...
When was sexing another species "cool"?

The alien-love thing is seriously disturbing. And I'm not trying to be funny. Different species is different species. Ick.

I'm still waiting for my Wrexmance.
Make it happen Bioware!

[King Zeel]

Bachi1230 wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

Bachi1230 wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

titaniumHOG wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

Arggggggggggh. Enough tali fans! she is not human-looking enough! Deal with it! freaking unbelievable the lengths ya'll go to defend your precious romancee.

Let me break this to you guys, she isn't human enough. i can't see her face, thats enough to disqualify herself from the Asarian category. When and if she is revealed then come back to me. Right now, the facts are clear, she looks like a Paris' Hilton's dog all dressed up.

It's called debating dumba** you give a point someone retaliates maybe if you could have a conversation like a adult and have legitimate reasons for supporting your theroy people would take your side but you don't your the guy that just screams his stupid reason louder thinking he is right when he just sounds retarded, useally when everyone disagress with you....your wrong
troll ownd

Don't you raise your fking virtual tone at me. I've been nothing but patient with you guys. And what do I get? 12 pages of redundant crap. If you haven't noticed, I have been single-handily thwarting all points being thrown at my topic. Its you members who have no idea how to debate. Instead of focusing on my point, you pick a side point and try to argue that to death.

Example: alien relationships are NOT PLAUSIBLE!!!!!
You guys: OMGOMGOMGOMG SHE LOOKS HUMAN SORTA!!! IM ON MEDICATION!!!!

So sorry, I'm done with it. you guys can take it and shove it up your arses.

Why aren't alien relationships plausable?
A relationship isn't just a physical one.  Also you seem ok with shepard hooking up with Liara who is guess what? an alien.  Also you are the one who started the "Human Looking enough" arguement.

They aren't, because humans can't be in a relationship without a PHYSICAL attraction. I know relationships consist of much more than just sex, but its still a large component of a healthy relationship! I know you guys dont want to admit it, but its true. The relationship is not logical, its' fanservice. Plain and simple.



Shepard can hook up with Liara because, hassshaaah he can copulate with her, make babies, and she looks like a blue human! Again, difference is right there.

All romances are Fan service, they do not effect the story and are there for character development.

Ashley/Kaidan/liara romance effected the story. Like in Virime. and the Shadow's Broker. the initial romances were used to build attachment to the characters. the second romances were used to get people off.

[mauro2222]

King Zeel wrote...

Bachi1230 wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

titaniumHOG wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

Arggggggggggh. Enough tali fans! she is not human-looking enough! Deal with it! freaking unbelievable the lengths ya'll go to defend your precious romancee.

Let me break this to you guys, she isn't human enough. i can't see her face, thats enough to disqualify herself from the Asarian category. When and if she is revealed then come back to me. Right now, the facts are clear, she looks like a Paris' Hilton's dog all dressed up.

It's called debating dumba** you give a point someone retaliates maybe if you could have a conversation like a adult and have legitimate reasons for supporting your theroy people would take your side but you don't your the guy that just screams his stupid reason louder thinking he is right when he just sounds retarded, useally when everyone disagress with you....your wrong
troll ownd

Don't you raise your fking virtual tone at me. I've been nothing but patient with you guys. And what do I get? 12 pages of redundant crap. If you haven't noticed, I have been single-handily thwarting all points being thrown at my topic. Its you members who have no idea how to debate. Instead of focusing on my point, you pick a side point and try to argue that to death.

Example: alien relationships are NOT PLAUSIBLE!!!!!
You guys: OMGOMGOMGOMG SHE LOOKS HUMAN SORTA!!! IM ON MEDICATION!!!!

So sorry, I'm done with it. you guys can take it and shove it up your arses.

Why aren't alien relationships plausable?
A relationship isn't just a physical one.  Also you seem ok with shepard hooking up with Liara who is guess what? an alien.  Also you are the one who started the "Human Looking enough" arguement.

They aren't, because humans can't be in a relationship without a PHYSICAL attraction. I know relationships consist of much more than just sex, but its still a large component of a healthy relationship! I know you guys dont want to admit it, but its true. The relationship is not logical, its' fanservice. Plain and simple.



Shepard can hook up with Liara because, hassshaaah he can copulate with her, make babies, and she looks like a blue human! Again, difference is right there.

Nobody tell otherwise. The last time I checked humans can engage on sexual acts with the aliens in the Mass Effect universe.

[titaniumHOG]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

King Zeel wrote...
When was sexing another species "cool"?

The alien-love thing is seriously disturbing. And I'm not trying to be funny. Different species is different species. Ick.

I'm still waiting for my Wrexmance.
Make it happen Bioware!

nothing like a big hard krogan, ugh that pushed me to far lol

[the_one_54321]

mauro2222 wrote...
The last time I checked humans can engage on sexual acts with the aliens in the Mass Effect universe.

"Can" and "it's also not freaking disturbing" are two very different things.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Golden Owl wrote...

You do know it's only because his Shep can't knock them up...that's what the whole issue is about.

Seems that way. I mean, the only reason anyone gets together is to make babies. All those people not interested in having babies are lying. All barren women are automatically filtered out of the dating pool and shunned as pariahs. And of course the fuller, heavier-set women best suited for birthing are prized in our society instead of waifish, willowy types like actresses and models.

[PauseforEffect]

You're asking that we humans stick with our own kind when there are more fetishes than you can throw a whip at.
"Taboo" gives several examples from a woman in love with the Berlin Wall to a guy married to a life-size rubber doll. From couples who met in prison to a parapalegic (excuse me if that's misspelled) with an active love life with a normal woman.
All of them odd, but that never halted society. Siamese twins, veterans disfigured from war, people with birth defects, all of them have differences beyond mere skin tone to the point they don't even resemble human. Yet they can still find love.
My point being is that alien romances are nothing special compared to actual relationships carried by unorthodox couples that don't bother other people

[King Zeel]

PrimalEden wrote...

You're asking that we humans stick with our own kind when there are more fetishes than you can throw a whip at.
"Taboo" gives several examples from a woman in love with the Berlin Wall to a guy married to a life-size rubber doll. From couples who met in prison to a parapalegic (excuse me if that's misspelled) with an active love life with a normal woman.
All of them odd, but that never halted society. Siamese twins, veterans disfigured from war, people with birth defects, all of them have differences beyond mere skin tone to the point they don't even resemble human. Yet they can still find love.
My point being is that alien romances are nothing special compared to actual relationships carried by unorthodox couples that don't bother other people

A guy married to a life-size rubber doll does bother me. That can't be healthy? are you saying it is??

Modifié par King Zeel, 21 juin 2011 - 02:13 .

[Urazz]

titaniumHOG wrote...
your saying there is no realationship on this planet that can not NO MATTER WHAT succed without physical attraction? there is no logic behind that statement, how can you say that there isnt one realationship ever that has exsisted without physical attraction?

Well, it's true.  But that doesn't mean our Shepard can't be sexually attracted to that Vorcha stripper we ran into on Omega when we were completely trashed on that Batarian Bartender's poison drink (why do you think we woke up in a gutter with our squadmates and that random human there watching?). 

[the_one_54321]

PrimalEden wrote...
"Taboo" gives several examples from a woman in love with the Berlin Wall to a guy married to a life-size rubber doll.

This may be odd, however we usually refer to this type of stuff is pschological studies, and often there is evidence of an unhealthy mental state involved.

On the other hand...

PrimalEden wrote...
From couples who met in prison to a parapalegic (excuse me if that's misspelled) with an active love life with a normal woman.

There is nothing "odd" about those. Just people in extraordinary circumstances making their life from what's available to them.

[mauro2222]

the_one_54321 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...
The last time I checked humans can engage on sexual acts with the aliens in the Mass Effect universe.

"Can" and "it's also not freaking disturbing" are two very different things.

Sorry, english it's not my native language, so I missed your point xD

[titaniumHOG]

hes like a hardcore cerburs, *humans with ONLY HUMANS! if they don't like it then blow them up*

[King Zeel]

mauro2222 wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...
The last time I checked humans can engage on sexual acts with the aliens in the Mass Effect universe.

"Can" and "it's also not freaking disturbing" are two very different things.

Sorry, english it's not my native language, so I missed your point xD

Just because they can, doesn't mean they should.

[titaniumHOG]

mauro2222 wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...
The last time I checked humans can engage on sexual acts with the aliens in the Mass Effect universe.

"Can" and "it's also not freaking disturbing" are two very different things.

Sorry, english it's not my native language, so I missed your point xD

 so did the people who speak english

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

titaniumHOG wrote...

hes like a hardcore cerburs, *humans with ONLY HUMANS! if they don't like it then blow them up*

Except for the Asari who can work in the brothels.

Add that to the above post and you've got King's stance on it.

[mauro2222]

But, Taboo doesn't mean that's correct.