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[xX N7 Xx]

 I'm Cerberus, if it weren't for them I'd never of met Miranda, I wouldn't be alive and I wouldn't have a kick ass Normandy SR2. Plus I have a soft spot for the Sheens (Especially Charlie 'cause he's a F***ing legend). I hate the Alliance because they're selfish a**holes that can't get the job done unless they have Shepard, plus they're too racist towards aliens. Even the good kind that don't want to turn into soup and make you into a robot!

[Mykel54]

daigakuinsei wrote...

Cerberus is incompetent. Aside from bringing Shepard back from the dead, they can't seem to get anything right.

Aside from constructing the Normandy SR2, creating an highly advanced AI called EDI with anti-reaper software, finding out leak information from shadow broker agents, manipulating the collectors into attacking the colonies they want, having technology much more advanced that the alliance has access to etc. I wouldn´t call that incompetent, even project overlord was a relative success because it proved that the geth can be commanded. If you don´t like Cerberus, fine, but arguing that they are useless is the same as saying that the STG are useless because they uplifted the krogan and then it backfired on the whole galaxy.

[Kreid]

My Shepard will always respect the alliance because as an earthborn, they gave him the opportunity to do something that matters and get on with his life but after all that's happened he doesn't trust them much anymore, he will cooperate for he knows that it's his duty to do everything he can against the Reapers and out of his personal friendship with Anderson but for what's worth, he's now much as wary of them as of Cerberus.

Everyone except Anderson that matters to my Shepard is in the Normandy so, if they let me fly my own way I'm surelly catering to no one.

[Errol Dnamyx]

GuiltySource wrote...
I think some of you are going to be disappointed when you realise the Normandy is Alliance. With an Alliance crew. Most likely been under the command of the VS, one of which out ranks you.

This problem can be solved in the Thunderdome. Two Spectres enter, one Spectre leaves.

[BeastMTL]

MY Shepard's loyalty to the Alliance is pretty frayed currently. Depending on how much mud they throw at him during the trial will determine if he stays loyal to the Alliance or not. I have a feeling though it's going to be a lot of mud

[Nerdage]

So long as they don't expect an apology for working with Cerberus then I'll represent them again, sure, otherwise I'll be pure spectre. I think Anderson understands Shep working with Cerberus though, and he's the human councillor for me, so I'm not expecting much fuss about it. The way I played it Shepard feels guilty for the Arrival incident, even volunteered to go to trial, so I'll take the consequences of that either way.

Although.. Did they really give the Normandy to the VS? Fudge that! If EDI or Joker haven't already told them where they can stick their command then I will.

[TheMarshal]

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

jtav wrote...

I'm hoping we can leave the Alliance a wreck of itself, no longer in a shape to be a galactic power. I will do everything in my power to subvert and undermine the Alliance and see that they have the highest possible number of casualties.

Species Traitor.

My Shepard isn't member of the Alliance anymore. After the stuff that happened in ME2 and the beginning of ME3 they have lost his loyalty.
But that doesn't mean he's unwilling to work together with the organisation.

Working together and accepting their authority are two different things.  I'm fine with assisting them during the fight, but they took my ship and gave it to someone else.  They're gonna have to rectify that if they want anything from me.

[Nerdage]

Out of curiosity, when people say one of the VS' out-rank Shepard, where's this come from? As far as I can find, Kaidan's still a staff lieutenant and Ashley's been promoted to second lieutenant, neither of which out-rank lieutenant commander, and we're all Spectres (or can be). Have I missed something?

[daigakuinsei]

Mykel54 wrote...

daigakuinsei wrote...

Cerberus is incompetent. Aside from bringing Shepard back from the dead, they can't seem to get anything right.

Aside from constructing the Normandy SR2, creating an highly advanced AI called EDI with anti-reaper software, finding out leak information from shadow broker agents, manipulating the collectors into attacking the colonies they want, having technology much more advanced that the alliance has access to etc. I wouldn´t call that incompetent, even project overlord was a relative success because it proved that the geth can be commanded. If you don´t like Cerberus, fine, but arguing that they are useless is the same as saying that the STG are useless because they uplifted the krogan and then it backfired on the whole galaxy.

Sorry, I don't buy it.  Wilson, Pragia, derelict reaper, ALL of their nonsense in ME1 (they came across as laughably stupid there).  

I blew up the Collector base everytime (paragon and renegade) because Cerberus is really good at creating dastardly plans that just backfire.  Next thing you know, they'll be working with the Reapers.  Oh wait...

[ladyvader]

nerdage wrote...

Out of curiosity, when people say one of the VS' out-rank Shepard, where's this come from? As far as I can find, Kaidan's still a staff lieutenant and Ashley's been promoted to second lieutenant, neither of which out-rank lieutenant commander, and we're all Spectres (or can be). Have I missed something?

You must have  missed talking with Anderson in ME2.  When you ask about Kaidan, he will mentioned that he is now Staff Commander Alenko and that rank is just above Lt. Commander which is Shepard's rank.  Unless Shepard gets promoted.  Which I believe Shepard deseves to be Captain.  If they can bump up Kaidan two ranks, why not Shepard.  Heck, even Ash got two promotions between ME and ME3.  Now, she is a 2nd Lt.

[Nerdage]

ladyvader wrote...

nerdage wrote...

Out of curiosity, when people say one of the VS' out-rank Shepard, where's this come from? As far as I can find, Kaidan's still a staff lieutenant and Ashley's been promoted to second lieutenant, neither of which out-rank lieutenant commander, and we're all Spectres (or can be). Have I missed something?

You must have  missed talking with Anderson in ME2.  When you ask about Kaidan, he will mentioned that he is now Staff Commander Alenko and that rank is just above Lt. Commander which is Shepard's rank.  Unless Shepard gets promoted.  Which I believe Shepard deseves to be Captain.  If they can bump up Kaidan two ranks, why not Shepard.  Heck, even Ash got two promotions between ME and ME3.  Now, she is a 2nd Lt.

I missed it like a pro.. I think Kaidan only survived for one of my characters though, usually I save Ashley. Thanks for the info, I was going off the ME3 enteries for them in the Wiki, I didn't think to look in the ME2 section but there it is.

Modifié par nerdage, 22 juin 2011 - 05:36 .

[Felflamer]

My paragon shepard gose to the council/alliance, while my renagade is freeleance while destorying the collecter base.

[Palidane]

I'm still very loyal to the Alliance, but I don't think I take orders from them anymore. I'm a council spectre, and I have a duty to protect and defend all species. If Hackett wants to ask me for help, that's fine, but I'm not dropping everything to go wipe out some rogue VI. The stakes are too high.

[VampireCommando]

My Shep is an Alliance soldier through and through, well, Spectre first Alliance commander second.

[GuiltySource]

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

GuiltySource wrote...
I think some of you are going to be disappointed when you realise the Normandy is Alliance. With an Alliance crew. Most likely been under the command of the VS, one of which out ranks you.

This problem can be solved in the Thunderdome. Two Spectres enter, one Spectre leaves.

Well Spectre's do seem to have a habbit of just dieng when Shep is around.

[ladyvader]

nerdage wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

nerdage wrote...

Out of curiosity, when people say one of the VS' out-rank Shepard, where's this come from? As far as I can find, Kaidan's still a staff lieutenant and Ashley's been promoted to second lieutenant, neither of which out-rank lieutenant commander, and we're all Spectres (or can be). Have I missed something?

You must have  missed talking with Anderson in ME2.  When you ask about Kaidan, he will mentioned that he is now Staff Commander Alenko and that rank is just above Lt. Commander which is Shepard's rank.  Unless Shepard gets promoted.  Which I believe Shepard deseves to be Captain.  If they can bump up Kaidan two ranks, why not Shepard.  Heck, even Ash got two promotions between ME and ME3.  Now, she is a 2nd Lt.

I missed it like a pro.. I think Kaidan only survived for one of my characters though, usually I save Ashley. Thanks for the info, I was going off the ME3 enteries for them in the Wiki, I didn't think to look in the ME2 section but there it is.

For some odd reason, I still think Kaidan would follow Shepard's command even if he outranks Shepard.  He knows Shepard was right along.  We will have to wait and see on that. 

[alperez]

The alliance haven't done or the council haven't actually done anything wrong in regards to shepard anyway through me1 or me2. Yes the council act like jerks and don't believe Shepard but throughout history politicians have had a hard time listening to soldiers so why should the future be any different.

As for the alliance what exactly have they done wrong, they don't support a Shepard that died and then returned working for/with an organisation they claim to be terrorists. They allowed Shepard's crew to disband but seriously weren't they likely to anyway? Wrex or garrus, tali or Liara none of these have a reason to stay post Shepard's death. As for the human members it makes sense that not all would stick together, promotions, new assignments etc.

So apart from those people who for their own reasons believe that we should embrace cerberus and anything else is wrong, there really is no reason yet why my Shepard or anyones shouldn't still be alliance/council through and through.

Not saying this won't change though but as of now, i don't see any reason so feel free to suggest a proper one and i'll respond.

[Bad King]

lolno. My Shepard is freelance.

[Badpie]

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

GuiltySource wrote...
I think some of you are going to be disappointed when you realise the Normandy is Alliance. With an Alliance crew. Most likely been under the command of the VS, one of which out ranks you.

This problem can be solved in the Thunderdome. Two Spectres enter, one Spectre leaves.

OOOH A Quickening!  

My Shepard still feels like Alliance.  He's committed to Alliance.  He didn't just join up to get money for college - his parents both served and he felt it was his calling.  Not having those ties after he died was tough for him.  He may not agree with them all the time, but my Shepard is definitely Alliance.

[RolandX9]

TheMarshal wrote...

In ME3, will your Shepard still rep the Alliance?  Or are you going rogue?  Flying solo.  Becoming the ronin Spectre...  This is really more of a question of how you RP your Shepard, or what you'd like to see happen in ME3, rather than what you think Bioware will do with Shepard.

Frankly, I'd like to tell the Alliance "people, you wanted me to be a Spectre, well guess what -- that means I answer to the Council now, not you." Getting zero support from the Council thus far makes that hard, but maybe things will turn around in 3.

Then again, probably not. The Alliance ties are obviously a big deal in 3, since the whole point is to go back and save the Earth, so I don't expect to be able to do this. Still, it'd be nice.

[Palidane]

RolandX9 wrote...

TheMarshal wrote...

In ME3, will your Shepard still rep the Alliance?  Or are you going rogue?  Flying solo.  Becoming the ronin Spectre...  This is really more of a question of how you RP your Shepard, or what you'd like to see happen in ME3, rather than what you think Bioware will do with Shepard.

Frankly, I'd like to tell the Alliance "people, you wanted me to be a Spectre, well guess what -- that means I answer to the Council now, not you." Getting zero support from the Council thus far makes that hard, but maybe things will turn around in 3.

Then again, probably not. The Alliance ties are obviously a big deal in 3, since the whole point is to go back and save the Earth, so I don't expect to be able to do this. Still, it'd be nice.

Honestly, I think the council is going to do a total 180. How can they "dismiss my preposterous claims" when every news feed on earth is showing giant reapers destroying the place? I'm pretty sure the Council will be agreeable, it's the Geth, Krogan, and Quarians that will take convincing.

[alex_34]

My shepard will be very wary of alliance and will probably wipe hes hands of them altogether he still has respect for Anderson though somewhat. If the alliance goals match my shepards then he will agree to co-operate with them. He also blew the collector base and gave TIM the finger he doen't want anything to do with them anymore.

As for the council. who knows my shepard wasn't going to throw the lives of thousands for a few councelors who had very little/no faith in him anyway and constantly being blind about the reapers. So he let them die in ME1

[LTiberious]

Cerberus.

[Raizo]

No. My cannon Shepard is a Spectre, he no longer works for the Alliance, he now works for the Council, he has more important things to do then serve in the Human military and look out for human interests, he is trying to protect everyone in the Universe from the greteast threat they will ever face.

Having said that he still maintains a lot of strong ties to the Alliance after all they did train him, he met, it's where he earned his rep ( War Hero ). He probably made a lot of friends there as well as some current and cormer squad mates ( Ashley and Kaiden ), his mentor Anderson embodied everything that was good about the Alliance and even though he knows that there are probably a lot of less noble people in the Alliance ( sleeper Cerebus agents for example ) he knows that the good elements out weigh the bad. My Shepard will never forget where he came from but at the end of the day he is no longer is an Alliance soldier.

[BubbleDncr]

My cannon Shep has gone rogue. She never trusted Cerebus and gave them the finger whenever possible, but she also gave the finger to the Alliance when Anderson wouldn't tell her where Kaiden was.

She just wants to do what's best for the galaxy - if the coincides with what the Alliance wants, then they'll be on the same side. But she's sick of dealing with their crap.