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[Chewin]

mulder1199 wrote...

i'm guessing he was such an non essential character (even just the name mention) that he probably won't be included in ME3 anyways...

BioWare really isn't known for letting strings like this simply go unanswered. In any of their games.

[xSTONEYx187x]

Sole Survivor Shep could be given the answer in ME 3. BioWare did say they are focusing on Sheps background in ME 3 quite extensively.

It could be possible, especially after reading some the posts in this thread. Very interesting.

[KevShep]

Bad King wrote...

Cerberus killed him, stole his credentials, blackmailed the doctor for medical supplies using Banes's credentials (for their super soldier experiments) and tried to cover it up by luring the Alliance marines (that Kahoku sent to investigate) to the thresher maw nest.

Either that or he faked his own death and voluntarily joined Cerberus/was forced to join Cerberus.

I like this one^. it answers the question and this mite be the reason that it is not talked about form then on.

[AtreiyaN7]

Jeth Prime wrote...

Golden-Rose wrote...

Yes, Bioware. I hope you are listening. Please provide us with closure on Armistan Banes! (And also Balak, for those of us who let him go) If you leave us hanging in the dark then I might just go mad!

YES!!!! BALAK, AS WELL.... That bastard....

I'll third that. I would like to see what happens with Balak after letting the slimy bastard go.

[AntiChri5]

I always think it is funny, how much people go mad speculating about this.

It's simple. Banes was a part of a small quest thread that they dropped, but never bothered to remove the hook. It isn't part of some vast mystery, there is no grand conspiracy, just an unfinished quest.

[Bad King]

AntiChri5 wrote...

I always think it is funny, how much people go mad speculating about this.

It's simple. Banes was a part of a small quest thread that they dropped, but never bothered to remove the hook. It isn't part of some vast mystery, there is no grand conspiracy, just an unfinished quest.

You lie!

[AntiChri5]

The simplest explanation is usually correct.

Now, either this is part of a vast conspiracy that was planned throughout the entire trilogy (and looking at the treatment of Cerberus from ME to ME2, it doesn't seem that much was planned) or just a quest they never finished.

[Chewin]

Unfinished yes....probably because it was determined the Banes link is deeper into the story than can be revealed at what is towards the end of the first part of the Mass Effect Trilogy.

I mean its obvious the content itself was somewhat rushed together, empty rooms in the bases, misplaced static items in weird places, but the Banes link is a thread of this story I rather doubt was just left "unfinished". Thats just not BioWare's style.

[AntiChri5]

They didn't even know there would be other games in the series when they made ME1. Hell, they still don't know what female turians look like. They are making it up as they go along.

[Smeelia]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Now, either this is part of a vast conspiracy that was planned throughout the entire trilogy (and looking at the treatment of Cerberus from ME to ME2, it doesn't seem that much was planned) or just a quest they never finished.

Even if it's just an unfinished quest though, that doesn't mean they couldn't do something with it.  They could even make a joke out of it with some seemingly elaborate conspiracy that turns out to be a hoax (maybe done by an Elcor or Volus, those guys have limitless potential).

[Chewin]

AntiChri5 wrote...

They didn't even know there would be other games in the series when they made ME1. Hell, they still don't know what female turians look like. They are making it up as they go along.

Want me to give you a few links that proves otherwise?

[AntiChri5]

Want me to give you a few links that proves otherwise?

I know that they have said it was always planned as a trilogy, but they did not know whether or not ME1's success was going to justify a sequel, let alone a trilogy. They wanted it to be a trilogy, they hoped that it would be a trilogy. But they neve planned for it to be a trilogy until ME1 was finished.

There are so many inconsistencies in the presentation of Cerberus between ME1 and ME2, It is abundantly clear that there was no real plan for that.

There may have been a very broad outline for the Reaper plotline, but that is it.

Even if it's just an unfinished quest though, that doesn't mean they couldn't do something with it.  They could even make a joke out of it with some seemingly elaborate conspiracy that turns out to be a hoax (maybe done by an Elcor or Volus, those guys have limitless potential).

I hope that they do do something with it.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Banes is TIM to me anyway. I think Banes faked his death and became TIM most likely not long after he came into contact with that beacon that turned his eyes all cyborg. Yeah the Banes mystery I wanted to really fallow up on then it dropped off the radar after 2 Q & A session if you could even call them that. Talk about avoiding a topic like a plague.

[dreman9999]

Bad King wrote...

Cerberus killed him, stole his credentials, blackmailed the doctor for medical supplies using Banes's credentials (for their super soldier experiments) and tried to cover it up by luring the Alliance marines (that Kahoku sent to investigate) to the thresher maw nest.

Either that or he faked his own death and voluntarily joined Cerberus/was forced to join Cerberus.

Wait a second....Super solder experiment...isn't Sheperd a super soldier experiment?

[Chewin]

@dreman9999

This is something I also have been pondering about. I have to check timelines though, it's possible that the Cerberus "super soldier" project may predate Shepard's birth, and Shepard may be a by product of some of its work, thus Harbinger's deep interest in Shepard and attempting to obtain Shepard's body after the Normandy attack through the Shadow Broker and the Collectors, and Harbingers continued warnings in combat that if he "has to tear you apart, he will" indicating a reluctance, on Harbinger's part, to actually kill or destroy Shepard for some reason.

EDIT: After checking the timeline fully, the date of Shepard's birth predates the First Contact War by a few years, unless Cerberus was well established in the Systems Alliance previous to the First Contact War, Shepard is not the product of any project or genetic manipulation, biotic abilities in Shepard class versions can be understood under the timeline due to eezo exposures that happened in 2154.

So that either drives Cerberus further back into the Systems Alliance history, or, removes Shepard as a product of Cerberus classified projects. Thoughif Shepard was a product of such classfied projects it would explain a lot in regards to why Cerberus is willing to pour so much of their resources into procuring the body and reanimating it after death due to decompression and atmospheric re-entry.

Modifié par Chewin3, 22 juin 2011 - 09:56 .

[Saber Wolf]

You are quite scary sometimes, Chewin. Your speculations makes me believe there really is more to Banes than I thought.

[Anihilus]

Banes is dead.

[AlexRmF]

what if Banes was blackmailing the doctor for medical supplies in order to fund the Lazarus project? he was involved in some biological experiments afterall and people said he was dead.. that would be interesting twist

[nitrog100]

Banes better show up. I did those side missions in order just to find out nothing, It just isn't right.

[xSTONEYx187x]

Chewin3 wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

They didn't even know there would be other games in the series when they made ME1. Hell, they still don't know what female turians look like. They are making it up as they go along.

Want me to give you a few links that proves otherwise?

He's one of them, it won't matter. 

[Zulu_DFA]

Armistan Banes started out as a medical scientist with the Alliance - a colleague (maybe a superior) of Dr. Michelle. Around the time (or maybe even some time prior) of the Akuze experiment, in which he was involved in some capacity, he had been recruited by Cerberus. He was distinguished by TIM and offered a position in the Cerberus Command, which he, of course, accepted and from then on worked as a cover-up expert for the group, staging his own death as the first of his cover-up initiatives. The files on Cerberus that may be found at one of the Cerberus bases in ME1 and passed on to the Shadow Broker were probably a misinformation left there on purpose by Banes (as a part of TIM's spy gambit vs. the Shadow Broker). By the time of ME2 he became the head of the counter-intelligence and internal security department of Cerberus. Maybe, if TIM is to die in ME3, Banes will be the new leader of Cerberus (in ME4 or whatever). TIM the Second, so to speak.


I think it's him on the right (and his beard looks cool and sinister):

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Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 04 août 2011 - 06:48 .

[ThePwener]

Banes leader of Cerberus after TIM? ha, looks like Shepard is going to have to kill him to if he wants control.

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!

[SkittlesKat96]

 I think it may have to do with the scrapped DLC for ME 1 which apparently The Illusive Man and Cerberus was possibly meant to be in. I asked Casey Hudson if he was allowed to tell us what that scrapped DLC was but he hasn't responded yet (and he might not respond, he might be saving it for some sort of 'The Making of the Mass Effect series' thing or interview.)

EDIT: Sam Hulick made it painfully obvious that the DLC would have involved Cerberus and The Illusive Man, and there are mission logs in ME 1 that point towards some sort of Cerberus 'general/leader'.

Modifié par SkittlesKat96, 04 août 2011 - 07:03 .

[CaptREDKangaroo]

Miranda's father possibly? Never given his identity... kind of fits. Genetic manipulations to create a specimen of human perfection. Major supporter of Cerebus, could easily have seen working for Alliance earlier as a biologist of some sort trying to create the same or a super soldier. Shady, paranoid, shifty person. I get the sense we'll see Miranda's father who is deemed someone of stature - perhaps he used to be Banes!

Eh or as was said just an unfinished quest... and left at that, just dead and not significant person.

Modifié par CaptREDKangaroo, 04 août 2011 - 07:02 .

[ThePwener]

Miranda's father is the CEO of Eldfell-Ashland energy. He was a Cerberus affiliate prior to Miranda joining them. Banes was an Alliance scientist that faked his own death and joined Cerberus.

Modifié par ThePwener, 04 août 2011 - 07:05 .