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[Undertone]

I know right? Who were those?

The whole premise and foundation (at least to me) of Mass Effect 1 were the Spectres - special ops, right hand of the Council, able to be anywhere, take care of huge galactic problems yada yada you know all that stuff. Well in ME2 Spectres had absolutely no significance, outside of LotSB we meet no other Spectre in the entire game. (Same can be said for ME1 actually except Nihlus brief appereance)

Well what about Saren and Vasir? Turns out both are rogue Spectres and our dear Shepard has to take them out. Well what about VS who is rumoured to be now a Spectre too? To this I answer with another question - Are humans the only "good" not corrupted, capable Spectres? 

Where are the other Spectres? Will we see them? Will they have some role in Mass Effect 3? 

I'm just thinking there's a huge potential content-wise that's not exploited - I know we have a crew and all that, but I'm really hoping we get a hand-picked Spectre crew for just a mission or two at least. I mean it only make sense that Shepard should work together with his "co-workers" at least once in his entire Spectre career for at least one mission during this Reaper invasion.

[mulder1199]

conversation between saren and nihlus kind of rules out them working together, unless their missions seem to intersect like shep and vasir....

that being said, if i'm bioware, if they dont' put it in there (i agree it would be cool) they can say, they are spread out across the galaxy doing x,y or z, they were killed with the reaper invasion, or they are keeping other problems at bay during this time period

[marshalleck]

I wouldn't really say it's "huge" potential, as the number of active Spectres is pretty low. For some reason, approximately 100 or so is the number banging around in my head, but I can't say why or what the source may be, and I could be way off. Anyways, yeah, most of the Spectres we've met have been some pretty rotten eggs. The VS Spectre may be an attempt to redeem them, but we'll have to see how it goes. Absolutely nothing has been said about meeting any other Spectres in ME3 that I am aware of.

[Chewin]

Vasir wasn't a rogue Spectre. She just acted the way she thought was right, even if it included working for the SB and killing innocents, but hey, that is how Spectre's work.

[Undertone]

Yeah that's the problem for me somewhat - humans are the only good Spectres? The only Spectres we see in the game so far are rogue and apparently humans are the only decent, good. I have a hard time believing that (of course for lack of seeing any good alien ones) considering humanity is a relative newcomer and Shepard is the first human Spectre.

[Flashlegend]

marshalleck wrote...

I wouldn't really say it's "huge" potential, as the number of active Spectres is pretty low. For some reason, approximately 100 or so is the number banging around in my head, but I can't say why or what the source may be, and I could be way off. Anyways, yeah, most of the Spectres we've met have been some pretty rotten eggs. The VS Spectre may be an attempt to redeem them, but we'll have to see how it goes. Absolutely nothing has been said about meeting any other Spectres in ME3 that I am aware of.

100 spectres? That seems like overkill in numbers. I was thinking 2 dozen at most. And at OP, meting another specre could be nice but it's not like they're walking all over the place. Also, Vasir was not a rogue spectre. I don't recall her betraying the council.

Modifié par Flashlegend, 20 juin 2011 - 08:46 .

[Someone With Mass]

I want to meet another turian Spectre.

[Someone With Mass]

Flashlegend wrote...

100 spectres? That seems like overkill in numbers. I was thinking 2 dozen at most. And at OP, meting another specre could be nice but it's not like they're walking all over the place. Also, Vasir wasn't a rogue spectre.

Well, the turians have thousands that are undergoing Spectre training every year, so I don't think they're in short supply.

[Vertigo_1]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I want to meet another turian Spectre.

Maybe we will meet one during the mission on Palaven's moon?

[Flashlegend]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Flashlegend wrote...

100 spectres? That seems like overkill in numbers. I was thinking 2 dozen at most. And at OP, meting another specre could be nice but it's not like they're walking all over the place. Also, Vasir wasn't a rogue spectre.

Well, the turians have thousands that are undergoing Spectre training every year, so I don't think they're in short supply.

I suppose it's possible. It's never really said what the spectre numbers are like. Just seems like thats a few too many people walking around that are above galactic law.

[Symji]

In ME1 after you become a Spectre, in the coversation immediately following the ceremony, Anderson states that the Alliance's best estimate on the number of Spectres is "less than 100". That's the only real clue we have and that's just speculation on the Alliance's part.

Modifié par Symji, 20 juin 2011 - 08:51 .

[marshalleck]

Flashlegend wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

I wouldn't really say it's "huge" potential, as the number of active Spectres is pretty low. For some reason, approximately 100 or so is the number banging around in my head, but I can't say why or what the source may be, and I could be way off. Anyways, yeah, most of the Spectres we've met have been some pretty rotten eggs. The VS Spectre may be an attempt to redeem them, but we'll have to see how it goes. Absolutely nothing has been said about meeting any other Spectres in ME3 that I am aware of.

100 spectres? That seems like overkill in numbers. I was thinking 2 dozen at most. And at OP, meting another specre could be nice but it's not like they're walking all over the place. Also, Vasir was not a rogue spectre. I don't recall her betraying the council.

Let's not forget that the galactic community encompasses at least a dozen species' homeworlds and many colony worlds. There are billions upon billions of inhabitants in Citadel space. Around 100 or so "best of the best" military/police/security types isn't really all that many, I think. And surely not all their assignments are of the "impending galactic doom" level of importance.

Modifié par marshalleck, 20 juin 2011 - 08:52 .

[AC5]

If they do include Spectres I demand continuity as every Spectre Shepard meets in the game has met some grim fate including Shepard.

Also I kind of like the idea that Shepard is a walking plaque on Spectres.

[Chewin]

Symji wrote...

In ME1 after you become a Spectre, in the coversation immediately following the ceremony, Anderson states that the Alliance's best estimate on the number of Spectres is "less than 100". That's the only real clue we have and that's just speculation on the Alliance's part.

Nope, he never says that.

[Yeti13]

^^ Somebody does say that somewhere, and I do think that it is Anderson

[Warkupo]

Given the scant number of Spectres in the Galaxy (less than 100), it's kind of amazing that Shepard has met as many as he has. I guess they have similar lines of work, but still.

[Warkupo]

Chewin3 wrote...

Symji wrote...

In ME1 after you become a Spectre, in the coversation immediately following the ceremony, Anderson states that the Alliance's best estimate on the number of Spectres is "less than 100". That's the only real clue we have and that's just speculation on the Alliance's part.

Nope, he never says that.

Yes, actually, he does.

[TCGodzilla]

It was right after meeting the Citadel Council in ME1 that Anderson said something like that I think.

Modifié par TCGodzilla, 20 juin 2011 - 09:08 .

[Chewin]

You misunderstood. What I meant was that Anderson never says it after Shepard becomes a Spectre.

[2kgnsiika]

After you meet the Council for the first time in ME1, Shepard can ask Anderson about the Spectres and he says the latest Alliance estimate puts the number below 100.

So yeah, if they're the most important intelligence/military operatives in the galaxy, we should be seeing and hearing more about them than we have.

But what's bothering me even more is the serious lack of N7 marines. So far, we've seen only one active N7 operative and one former one (Anderson) and read about another (Kai Leng). If these guys are the best the Alliance has, why wasn't the original Normandy's marine detail comprised solely of them?

I know it's just a marketing gimmick, but it's really annoying how the N7 armor is only ever worn by Shepard and even his status in the Alliance military is unclear. It's almost like Shepard = N7, although it's established in the lore that N7 is a MVC and not Shepard's personal coat of arms. Considering that it's the most iconic logo in the ME franchise, they should be using it properly.

[Warkupo]

2kgnsiika wrote...

After you meet the Council for the first time in ME1, Shepard can ask Anderson about the Spectres and he says the latest Alliance estimate puts the number below 100.

So yeah, if they're the most important intelligence/military operatives in the galaxy, we should be seeing and hearing more about them than we have.

But what's bothering me even more is the serious lack of N7 marines. So far, we've seen only one active N7 operative and one former one (Anderson) and read about another (Kai Leng). If these guys are the best the Alliance has, why wasn't the original Normandy's marine detail comprised solely of them?

I know it's just a marketing gimmick, but it's really annoying how the N7 armor is only ever worn by Shepard and even his status in the Alliance military is unclear. It's almost like Shepard = N7, although it's established in the lore that N7 is a MVC and not Shepard's personal coat of arms. Considering that it's the most iconic logo in the ME franchise, they should be using it properly.

Hey, don't forget about Conrad! His N7 armor is uh... stylish. 

[LPPrince]

Heh, its like the Spectres are Mass Effect's version of the Green Lantern Corps. lol

But so far, there have been 4 Spectres seen in game and all have died.

1. Nihlus Kryik-Killed by Saren Arterius
2. Saren Arterius-Killed by Commander Shepard
3. Commander Shepard-Killed by The Collectors
4. Tela Vasir-Killed by Commander Shepard

Of the four, one was rogue and the other three remained loyal to the cause and the Council.

Personally, I want to see A LOT of Spectres in ME3. What with it being the climax of the series and the time when all of the galaxy must be saved, this is the time for Spectres to stand up and defend everyone.

So I want to personally meet a few more Spectres and then visually see a lot of the rest of them(without actually having to meet them).

Modifié par LPPrince, 20 juin 2011 - 10:10 .

[AlexRmF]

Jesse or Casey mentioned that they want the first hanar specter to show up in the game... I must say that would be pretty cool, since I heard about him on the news broadcasts of ME2, not to mention, he's sharing a nice background with Shepard... the first Spectre agents of their races