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[Infestation]

Cypher0020 wrote...

I opt for more Spectres too.. ones that don't try to kill us...

sure the VS got spectre status....but I'd like to see another turian or asari....and gee... I dunno actually talk about the job for once....

I'm sorry, what does this "VS" acronym mean?

Modifié par Infestation, 21 juin 2011 - 05:10 .

[MysticMage44]

VS= Virmire Survivor aka Ashley or kaiden

Modifié par MysticMage44, 21 juin 2011 - 05:11 .

[Infestation]

Thank you. I wouldn't like for Ashley or Kaiden to become a Spectre, but hey yeah whatever I don't write this stuff.

[onelifecrisis]

Undertone wrote...

Well what about Saren and Vasir? Turns out both are rogue Spectres and our dear Shepard has to take them out. Well what about VS who is rumoured to be now a Spectre too? To this I answer with another question - Are humans the only "good" not corrupted, capable Spectres?

Vasir wasn't a rogue like Saren. She was a Renegade (just like Shepard potentially is) not a traitor.
Also, Nihlus was a non-human non-corrupt Spectre, though he was also somewhat Renegade as we find out from Samara.

[Edited for typos]

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 21 juin 2011 - 05:15 .

[MysticMage44]

Yeah. it's been confirmed that Ashley/Kaiden does become a spectre. I'm not thrilled about it either. Shep was the only human spectre and that made me feel special. Not to mention Ashley was mean to me in ME2. Oh well. I'll just have to settle with saving all sentient organic life from extinction

[Infestation]

Shepard's doing the brunt of the work, and he gets the shaft. First, he gets killed, & hell for all his accomplishments you'd think he'd get promoted or something. Nope, let's put him on trial. Him being humanity & the galaxy's best hope, that is.

[MysticMage44]

Shepard is underapreciated the entire series by evryone who does not really know him. Sure he has his fans and whatnot but pretty much everyone in politics thinks hes a whack job who believs in some machine boogymen. And im not really sure what sheps promotion wold be other than being part of the council or ...Super Elite Spectre.

[Infestation]

I hope after ME3 Shepard won't just disappear like the Dragon Age protagonists.

[Massadonious1]

So many 3's on this page...

[Infestation]

Massadonious1 wrote...

So many 3's on this page...

And with that being said..

I should go.

Modifié par Infestation, 21 juin 2011 - 05:30 .

[salojeff]

Shepard has a tendency to kill every Spectre he meets.

I'd like to see Spectres further explored as a group. Saren was corrupt, Vasir worked for the shadow broker, and if you talk to Samara a bit, you find that Nihlus was a pretty ruthless guy himself. Renegade Shepard himself can be pretty nasty, and renegade Shepard is considered "canon" by Bioware.

It would be interesting to explore the Spectres more. Meet more of them, find out whether the good they do outweighs the bad, or if they're really as corrupt as they appear.

[HTTP 404]

spectres always turn up dead around shepard. <looks at VS for Me3>

[KreeCapt]

LPPrince wrote...

Tela Vasir didn't work for the Shadow Broker and never betrayed the Council.

She did what she did because as she said, The Shadow Broker provided her with plenty of information over the years that saved a ton of lives. Due to this, if The Shadow Broker asked her for something, she'd gladly give it.

In this case, the death of T'Soni. So that's why she tried to kill her. But that's hardly betraying the Council as the Council is in no sort of threat whatsoever and if The Shadow Broker asked Vasir to take THEM out, I'm sure that Vasir would give him a big HELL NO and try to chase him down.

Unless she's so greedy that if a proper bounty was put on their heads she's go for it, but we'll never know.

Still, she hated being thought to of betrayed the Council, so no, I don't think she would've.

In ME 1 Anderson said No one knows for sure but by the Alliance last count it put them around 100 maybe less

[faneriewar]

Shepard isn't any worse than Saren or Vasir, it's really how you perceive their motivations.

Like Vasir mentioned, working with Cerberus is probably worse than working with the Shadow Broker. The Broker may fund projects that keep the galaxy in shape, but he doesn't act as the engineer or boss of the project. TIM on the other hand, he has a personally say on the cells under he's command (though some tend to go rogue just to satisfy him).

If I had to pick a lesser evil, it would be the Shadow Broker, plus, he sells information on a plethora of things...not every intel he contains lead to a certain doom, just look at Vasir, she used he's knowledge of the current events to save lives many times over. Same can be said for Cerberus, they're advancing humanity in the most extreme way, for the better or worse.

Hell, even Saren wanted to protect the galaxy during ME, but Sovereign got the better of him. Shepard is fighting for the same cause as Saren, to save the galaxy. The only difference between their motives was how they operated. I'm not getting into details, the point is that there will probably be no Spectres that didn't have to coperate with the dark side <.< , the council knows this, thats why they're granted immunity from citadel law(well that what I think anyhow).

I'm not saying that Shepard, Saren or Vasir are the lesser evil, it's how people perceive them that makes them look so. Calling Shepard a good spectre would mean that Saren and Vasir are good as well, they just chose a different path towards their goal.

[SuperNova42]

I'd much rather have Garrus as my Spectre-bro than Kaidan

[Krilral]

As to the question of wether humans are the only "good" spectres: So far Shepard has been the only one and he blew up 300.000 batarians.

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Krilral wrote...

As to the question of wether humans are the only "good" spectres: So far Shepard has been the only one and he blew up 300.000 batarians.

batarians are like 1/10 a person.

[CroGamer002]

Gee, I don't know OP.
Maybe because 95% of the game you were in Terminus System's?

[TCGodzilla]

SuperNova42 wrote...

I'd much rather have Garrus as my Spectre-bro than Kaidan

He was a potential spectre candidate but his father, who was a cop, didn't like how the spectres were above the law so he stop Garrus from receiving training that would had made him a spectre if he was accepted into the spectres.

[LGTX]

@faneriewar, agreed all around. I'm sure almost any Spectre can be labeled as 'rogue' if you have enough evidence of his/her actions.

[gunswordfist]

It would be cool to have a Spectre squad member. I also wanted a black woman squad member and I think her being a Spectre would be nice.

[TCGodzilla]

HTTP 404 wrote...

Krilral wrote...

As to the question of wether humans are the only "good" spectres: So far Shepard has been the only one and he blew up 300.000 batarians.

batarians are like 1/10 a person.

Not really you can really pin all that blame on their government, the Batarian Hegemony. They funded missions to extremist, pirates, criminal groups, slave rings to attack human colonies. Their average citizens are stuck in batarian space. And they have a whole lot of propaganda aimmed at their people to brainwash them in believing that humans are evil which causes extremism. The only thing that makes batarians less human is that they believe in slavery.

[The Twilight God]

AlexRmF wrote...

Jesse or Casey mentioned that they want the first hanar specter to show up in the game... I must say that would be pretty cool, since I heard about him on the news broadcasts of ME2, not to mention, he's sharing a nice background with Shepard... the first Spectre agents of their races

Blasto is a joke character that someone on the old forums came up with in jest. He was put in the game as a movie character within the ME universe in a series of hanarploitation films. There is no actual hanar SPECTRE. There are a couple of forum related material in ME2 like Jeirt's email about Thane. Jeirt was a huge outspoken Thane fangirl. 

faneriewar wrote...

Hell, even Saren wanted to protect the galaxy during ME, but Sovereign got the better of him. Shepard is fighting for the same cause as Saren, to save the galaxy. The only difference between their motives was how they operated. I'm not getting into details, the point is that there will probably be no Spectres that didn't have to coperate with the dark side <.< , the council knows this, thats why they're granted immunity from citadel law(well that what I think anyhow).

Actually, Saren wanted to use the "alien dreadnought" to attain power and dominance for the Turian Hierarchy over Asari, Salarains, humans and everyone else. There was nothing noble about his initial contact with Sovereign. He's just a human TIM with a side of renegade Shepard.

[AllenShepard]

I will be seriously disappointed if we don't see a gathering of Spectres. That has been my dream since ME1. I'm pretty sure that the Reaper invasion is the most important mission to all of them so they all need to be helping in some capacity.

[landis963]

AllenShepard wrote...

I will be seriously disappointed if we don't see a gathering of Spectres. That has been my dream since ME1. I'm pretty sure that the Reaper invasion is the most important mission to all of them so they all need to be helping in some capacity.

Or better yet, some SM-esque series of missions where they really show how much they can kick *ss by your side.  Imagine Tela Vasir as an NPC extra squadmate .