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[Raiders Fan 223]

NOTE: I made a new thread because this idea might get lost in the SS thread, and those who do not support SS romances and therefore do not visit that thread might not see it.

For most people (and the vast majority of players who frequent the Bioware Boards -- who will likely import saves to ME3), the following is an acceptable solution in my opinion. 

It's fairly simple.  If your male Shepard romanced a female character in either ME1 or ME2, then NO SS option will be available in ME3.  That means guys won't hit on Shepard, and he won't be hit on.  Vice-versa obviously for fem shep.

I've seen many arguments from SS supporters that they have playthroughs where they romanced noone because SS options were unavailable. They claim that since they romanced nobody, then there is no canon Shepard sexuality.   Under this plan, those who didn't have a relationship in the first two games so will be able to pursue all romances (both male and female).  

Likewise, those players who DID have a relationship in the first two game will not be exposed to unwanted advances from members of the same sex.  There will, based on the first two games, be an established sexual preference for Shepard (on that playthrough), and no SS option should/would/could be available. 

In someone starts a playthough on ME3, then all options will be available.



SS supporters can't lose here.  They will have guarenteed access to SS options if they want -- by making no-romance playthoughs (which many claim they already have) or starting at ME3 and using the interactive backstory comic.  Non-SS supporters win too, as they are not presented with that unwanted option, and the canon of that playthrough is not-retconned.

I realize that this plan eliminates the possibility of importing a bi-sexual Shepard, but in the aggreate, it is better to follow this plan to do the greatest good for the greatest number of people.


tl;dr -- If you romanced a person in ME1 and/or ME2 and import that save, no SS options are available in ME3 (please read reasons why if you disagree).

Thank you 

[shepskisaac]

So Shep would be able to be bisexual starting with guys but not with girls?

[King Zeel]

This suggestion is ridiculous. though I am against turning party members lesi (except Ashley) I cannot be onboard for a stupid plan.

Basically, you're telling the people who went down a romance path that their sexuality is -set-. Well, guess what? that's almost everyone. God knows! no one likes to replay the same game just to get the same features as everyone else is.

My suggestion: Make one new gay guy and keep it at that. Plus we all know its fangirls harping on this s/s ****. the real gay players out there don't care all that much!

Modifié par King Zeel, 21 juin 2011 - 01:38 .

[Siansonea]

I'd still like the option of playing bisexual Shepard. I have one female Shepard who previously romanced Kaidan, who then avoided romance in ME2; she may or may not be bisexual in ME3, depending on who the f/f options are. I do have a solitary male that is set aside for the gay male option, whoever he may be. I don't think BioWare should waste too much effort creating an additional layer of protection from s/s content though, since it's all optional in the first place. Don't want it? Don't do it. That's a pretty simple solution in my book. I use that philosophy myself with regards to the alien romances. Other than Liara/asari, they're pretty much all Do Not Want territory for me. So I don't select the options that I know will lead to romance with Garrus, Tali, or Thane.

[Collider]

No

[thatguy212]

I have the real solution to the same sex romance "issue", it may sound strange and hard to implement but i think its really the only way it could be done properly, when someone of the same sex hits on you and you don't want to romance them, simple select the dialogue option that says you don't to romance them

[shepskisaac]

King Zeel wrote...
though I am against turning party members lesi (except Ashley)

Is it even necessary to explain what's wrong with this part?

King Zeel wrote...
 the real gay players out there don't care all that much!

Just as straight players don't care for straight romances

[ADLegend21]

I have a shepard who romanced Liara and is currently with Jacob. She's obviously bisexual so both sexes could hit on her.

[Blacklash93]

So... you're basically suggesting a trilogy-spanning toggle?

I'm sure this method would work just fine with most people, but I have to disagree. I don't believe that anything in the story should be dictated by meta-game logic or decisions. IMO, it compromises the natural and organic narrative flow that Bioware games strive for. You should decide who your character is as you go along, not right from the start.

Plus, as others have said, there's still bisexual Shepards that shoud be taken into consideration.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 21 juin 2011 - 02:18 .

[Cutlass Jack]

I have also come up with a solution to this tricky romance issue: If you dont want S/S romances in your game you can turn them off...by not hitting on people of the same gender.

I know, I know. Its hard to resist complimenting Jacob's abs no matter what your orientation, but I think you can handle it.

[catabuca]

obligatory "what about bisexual shepard" comment, to echo the rest.

[Raiders Fan 223]

I could have sworn that asari only have one gender, therefore its neither gay or straight when maleshep/femshep romance Liara.

In any event, apparently I underestimated how many people want bi-shepards lol

[King Zeel]

you underestimated alot of things, like this boards population is riddled with fangirls.

[Spatchmo]

I think my Shepard might have been in a relationship with Ashley in ME1 though... At least until I nuked her. We all laughed and had ice cream afterwards.

[Siansonea]

King Zeel wrote...

you underestimated alot of things, like this boards population is riddled with fangirls.

And people who feel a pathological need to put people down, apparently.

[mereck7980]

This could work for people who want a SS option and are willing to replay both previous games, but most SS fans probably aren't willing to go through that.

I think there are only two feasible options, either make it patiently obvious from a writing stand point that a particular dialog option would lead Shepard down an SS path so it can be avoided if the player isn't into that, or just create a setting in the options menu that toggles SS dialog options on/off. Toggling the setting on and off is easy from a programing standpoint and gives players the option to do what they want.

[fenix8081]

I'm sure this might spark an argument, but from the human perspective, Asari are female. Maybe if they had flatter chests, but based on their shape I don't think too many humans would mistake them as looking more male...even Aethyta.

[Siansonea]

It really worries me that people don't see how simple the solution is. There's a signpost up ahead, you take one path, you end up in flagrante delicto with another dude, you take the other path, and you're just bros/colleagues/rivals. Really, it's that simple. And you know what? If you do somehow stupidly fall into The Gay, you can, you know, reload from a save and replay the conversation—or avoid that dude altogether. Really, do people who object to same-sex inclusion need THAT much hand-holding to navigate through the game?

Modifié par Siansonea II, 21 juin 2011 - 03:32 .

[KawaiiKatie]

But that would be like locking the ME2 romances just because Shepard already had a romance in ME1.

"Well, Garrus isn't hitting on you because you've already slept with Kaidan. Obviously you aren't interested in alien romances because you've already engaged in a human relationship! You can't want BOTH! And the best part is, alien-relationship-supporters don't lose ANYTHING this way!"

I would rather just have homosexual relationships implemented the same way heterosexual relationships have been implemented. Equal treatment, please. I've managed to dodge unwanted heterosexual options with a polite rejected. Why can't same-sex dissenters learn to do the same?

[Abispa]

So if I go through the first two games and NEVER take a renegade action, NEVER stop my friends from murdering anyone, NEVER act like a jerk, NEVER say a racist insult, and NEVER betray anyone, then ME3 will remove the ability to EVER make such decisions in ME3 and bless me with a Shepard who is without sin? That would be amazing! Making such decisions multiple times in a game can be so mentally taxing!

[AngelicMachinery]

I'm bi and this option is silly.

[AngelicMachinery]

fenix8081 wrote...

I'm sure this might spark an argument, but from the human perspective, Asari are female. Maybe if they had flatter chests, but based on their shape I don't think too many humans would mistake them as looking more male...even Aethyta.

Wait Aethya looks masculine?

[Dapper Pomegranate]

Raiders Fan 223 wrote...

I could have sworn that asari only have one gender, therefore its neither gay or straight when maleshep/femshep romance Liara.

FemShep: Look, Liara, I like you and all, but I'm not attracted to females, emotionally or physically. If only you were a man.

Liara: Oh, but I'm not female. I look, act, talk, and feel female, have boobs and a vajayjay but by a genetic/societal technicality I have no gender.

FemShep: Oh, in that case: SEXAY! C'MERE *Nom nom nom*

Technically it is not a gay relationship, but FemShep is definitely bi or a lesbian if she goes for Liara.

Modifié par FrozenFire42, 21 juin 2011 - 03:48 .