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WidowMaker9394 wrote...

Please, don't ****ing do it like DA2.

THANK YOU! We all know what happened DA2 because of people whining for this sort of thing.

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WidowMaker9394 wrote...

Please, don't ****ing do it like DA2



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A needy and emotionally unstable Anders wanted attention? Where were the lot of you when Isabela practically forced herself into your bed? In the bed waiting for her, no doubt.

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Russalka wrote...

Where were the lot of you when Isabela practically forced herself into your bed? In the bed waiting for her, no doubt.


I was staring at her ass as the Arishok led her out of the throne room.

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MegaBadExample wrote...

WidowMaker9394 wrote...

Please, don't ****ing do it like DA2.

THANK YOU! We all know what happened DA2 because of people whining for this sort of thing.


1. Different development teams. 

2. Which part of DA2 in particular are you finding so threatening? Anders' advances won't be repeated, if you're worried about losing five points which can be made up in the next two minutes anyway. Squadmates are another matter. 

3. Bioware will do whatever they want in the interests of making a good game. That doesn't necessarily mean making everyone happy. 

4. Nobody is whining. There was a long running suggestion and discussion. Big difference. 

5. If you have a problem with optional content that you personally won't use and that does absolutely nothing to affect your gameplay then I suggest you reevaluate your priorities. 

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WidowMaker9394 wrote...

I was staring at her ass as the Arishok led her out of the throne room.


Does stabbing Anders beat that? 

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Russalka wrote...

WidowMaker9394 wrote...

I was staring at her ass as the Arishok led her out of the throne room.


Does stabbing Anders beat that? 


Kinda. 

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ElitePinecone wrote...


1. Different development teams. 

2. Which part of DA2 in particular are you finding so threatening? Anders' advances won't be repeated, if you're worried about losing five points which can be made up in the next two minutes anyway. Squadmates are another matter. 

3. Bioware will do whatever they want in the interests of making a good game. That doesn't necessarily mean making everyone happy. 

4. Nobody is whining. There was a long running suggestion and discussion. Big difference. 

5. If you have a problem with optional content that you personally won't use and that does absolutely nothing to affect your gameplay then I suggest you reevaluate your priorities. 


1.) Irrelevant.

2.) Shoddy rushed development overall;  romances inconsistant with ones character.

3.) Not making everyone happy =/= pissing countless fans from day 1 off.

4.) For every suggestion and discussion there is at least 5 accusations of fear of the same

5.) This is as always a stupid argument.  If there was a game where you had the option to say, run a concentration camp, do you think everyone should nod and say its fine because it's optional content? You might. I don't.

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Oh dear. Only a few posts in and I know this thread is doomed.

I'll just mosey along now.

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This is as always a stupid argument.  If there was a game where you had the option to say, run a concentration camp, do you think everyone should nod and say its fine because it's optional content? You might. I don't.


ME and ME2 feature, respectively, the ability to commit murder, genocide, torture, regicide, slander, assault and assassination. It allows players to be xenophobic, cruel, uncarng, cold, calculating, brutal and utterly ruthless. 

I have no problem with any of that, because it's optional. I might hate it, and never use it, but others do. 

Yes, there are standards and there are lines. A concentration camp would fall beyond that line for me.

But are you seriously suggesting that in a game when one can do all of the above, an optional same-sex romance is going too far? Are your morals that offended? 

Bioware clearly think the community is marginally more tolerant than your average grapefruit. They've decided, in their infinite wisdom, to include more options for romances in the third game.

If you don't like it, don't play it. 

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Raiders Fan 223 wrote...

Knowing that certain characters can be bi or gay (even if its an option) might still alter our opinions of them. Even, as a poster wrote, if it's simply a little heart for one piece of dialogue. I realize gay/bi people may think this is shallow/intolerant/narrow-minded, but whatever.


Indeed it is. Expecting the world/commercial products available in said world to be tailored to you *at the expense of other people* is the very definition of narrow minded and intolerant.

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ElitePinecone wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...
This is as always a stupid argument.  If there was a game where you had the option to say, run a concentration camp, do you think everyone should nod and say its fine because it's optional content? You might. I don't.


ME and ME2 feature, respectively, the ability to commit murder, genocide, torture, regicide, slander, assault and assassination. It allows players to be xenophobic, cruel, uncarng, cold, calculating, brutal and utterly ruthless. 

I have no problem with any of that, because it's optional. I might hate it, and never use it, but others do. 

Yes, there are standards and there are lines. A concentration camp would fall beyond that line for me.

But are you seriously suggesting that in a game when one can do all of the above, an optional same-sex romance is going too far? Are your morals that offended? 

Bioware clearly think the community is marginally more tolerant than your average grapefruit. They've decided, in their infinite wisdom, to include more options for romances in the third game.

If you don't like it, don't play it. 


Probably not going to. And you ignored my point entirely. Grats.

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Volus Warlord wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

If you don't like it, don't play it. 


Probably not going to. And you ignored my point entirely. Grats.


Good, then. Byebye :wizard:

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This whole toggle/enable gay options/etc is hilarious to me. Here's the thing folks: People that are not straight exist in real life. You can't just enable an option and change that. If you can't handle homosexual content in a *game* then I honestly worry for these folks' social skills. For all the discomfort straight folks might feel being hit on by very forward nonstraight LIs (case in point, the often brought up Anders), think about how people who are homosexual feel when someone from the opposite gender doesn't get the point that they aren't interested and keep advancing, or even better drop the whole line of "Oh, you just haven't found the right <insert gender here>" If it makes you feel uncomfortable, well now you're seeing it from the other side.

For all the angsting that comes with the s/s option, I firmly believe people need to practice putting themselves in the other party's shoes. BioWare is being progressive, allowing us to roleplay in more ways. They deem it to be worthwhile and they truly have my respect for this.

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This whole toggle/enable gay options/etc is hilarious to me. Here's the thing folks: People that are not straight exist in real life. You can't just enable an option and change that. If you can't handle homosexual content in a *game* then I honestly worry for these folks' social skills. For all the discomfort straight folks might feel being hit on by very forward nonstraight LIs (case in point, the often brought up Anders), think about how people who are homosexual feel when someone from the opposite gender doesn't get the point that they aren't interested and keep advancing, or even better drop the whole line of "Oh, you just haven't found the right <insert gender here>" If it makes you feel uncomfortable, well now you're seeing it from the other side.

For all the angsting that comes with the s/s option, I firmly believe people need to practice putting themselves in the other party's shoes. BioWare is being progressive, allowing us to roleplay in more ways. They deem it to be worthwhile and they truly have my respect for this.



It's gonna be hilarious until Manshep gets ninjamanced by Kaiden and you have to sit there and watch the two for 5 minute :sick:.

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Volus Warlord wrote...

It's gonna be hilarious until Manshep gets ninjamanced by Kaiden and you have to sit there and watch the two for 5 minute :sick:.


Aww, don't worry. Remember, ME3 has Kinect implementation! Upon request, your XBox will automatically dim the lights, put on some light jazz, anything you need to make you comfortable :wizard:

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Volus Warlord wrote...

It's gonna be hilarious until Manshep gets ninjamanced by Kaiden and you have to sit there and watch the two for 5 minute :sick:.


It'd be more hilarious to watch you hit on Kaidan to initiate the romance.

It's like Zevran all over again!  I can't wait!

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 21 juin 2011 - 02:07 .


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Volus Warlord wrote...

CalamityRanger wrote...

This whole toggle/enable gay options/etc is hilarious to me. Here's the thing folks: People that are not straight exist in real life. You can't just enable an option and change that. If you can't handle homosexual content in a *game* then I honestly worry for these folks' social skills. For all the discomfort straight folks might feel being hit on by very forward nonstraight LIs (case in point, the often brought up Anders), think about how people who are homosexual feel when someone from the opposite gender doesn't get the point that they aren't interested and keep advancing, or even better drop the whole line of "Oh, you just haven't found the right <insert gender here>" If it makes you feel uncomfortable, well now you're seeing it from the other side.

For all the angsting that comes with the s/s option, I firmly believe people need to practice putting themselves in the other party's shoes. BioWare is being progressive, allowing us to roleplay in more ways. They deem it to be worthwhile and they truly have my respect for this.



It's gonna be hilarious until Manshep gets ninjamanced by Kaiden and you have to sit there and watch the two for 5 minute :sick:.


If people got that far in a ninjamance they must be just pressing the text skip button.

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CalamityRanger wrote...

This whole toggle/enable gay options/etc is hilarious to me. Here's the thing folks: People that are not straight exist in real life. You can't just enable an option and change that. If you can't handle homosexual content in a *game* then I honestly worry for these folks' social skills. For all the discomfort straight folks might feel being hit on by very forward nonstraight LIs (case in point, the often brought up Anders), think about how people who are homosexual feel when someone from the opposite gender doesn't get the point that they aren't interested and keep advancing, or even better drop the whole line of "Oh, you just haven't found the right <insert gender here>" If it makes you feel uncomfortable, well now you're seeing it from the other side.

For all the angsting that comes with the s/s option, I firmly believe people need to practice putting themselves in the other party's shoes. BioWare is being progressive, allowing us to roleplay in more ways. They deem it to be worthwhile and they truly have my respect for this.


Sex change? You do know it's a game, and you can change your sex then romance that certain character.
 
I think there should be S/S romance options available only to new characters and Liara. Not old characters from ME1 and ME2 who wernt gay or bi before. They shouldn't all of a sudden turn gay. Image IPB

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RinjiRenee wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

It's gonna be hilarious until Manshep gets ninjamanced by Kaiden and you have to sit there and watch the two for 5 minute :sick:.


It'd be more hilarious to watch you hit on Kaidan to initiate the romance.

It's like Zevran all over again!  I can't wait!


/facepalm

HUR HUR HUR Neither can I. Cmon now. You didn't even need to hit on some of the characters to get to a romance seen.  For example, Jack is all like "lets **** NOW!"  out of the middle of nowhere. So I guess I won't be able to speak to any of the male characters at all. That's kinda gamebreaking, don't you think?

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So I guess I won't be able to speak to any of the male characters at all. That's kinda gamebreaking, don't you think?


Not really, considering you said you're not going to play the game anyway. Also, I advise against talking to males in real-life, too, in case such a situation arises! Y'know, given your obvious animal magnetism, irresistable to men and women alike.

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MegaBadExample wrote...
Sex change? You do know it's a game, and you can change your sex then romance that certain character.
 
I think there should be S/S romance options available only to new characters and Liara. Not old characters from ME1 and ME2 who wernt gay or bi before. They shouldn't all of a sudden turn gay. Image IPB




Oh I know it's possible but the fact that BW is (for the most part, ME1 and 2 are obviously needed to use the change gender option) trying to potentially make it not necessary is a wonderful thing to me. Having to find a work around to romance someone is a bit tedious, especially when you're unsure if the flags will work right when imported into a new game. 

Really? Did every single character come up to you and say "HEY SHEP, THIS IS MY SEXUAL ORIENTATION!"? Some people don't wear their sexuality on their sleeves. Sure we can chalk it up to "They're straight because BW didn't code in s/s romances" but hell, a good writer could easily work around it and still make it work come ME3.

Modifié par CalamityRanger, 21 juin 2011 - 02:21 .


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AngelicMachinery wrote...


If people got that far in a ninjamance they must be just pressing the text skip button.



After my first playthough I mashed that button all the time, lol.. sometime you get tired of hearing the same thing over and over again.

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Volus Warlord wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...


If people got that far in a ninjamance they must be just pressing the text skip button.



After my first playthough I mashed that button all the time, lol.. sometime you get tired of hearing the same thing over and over again.


That's  your fault than.

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HolyMoogle wrote...


Not really, considering you said you're not going to play the game anyway. Also, I advise against talking to males in real-life, too, in case such a situation arises! Y'know, given your obvious animal magnetism, irresistable to men and women alike.


:lol:Go **** yourself. :lol:


I am not going to pay for content I don't want.