I personally didn't like the development of Orsino's character and I'm of the group of people who didn't like Dragon Age 2, but that's not what this thread is about...
I cannot deny that Orsino has a truly amazing voice, probably one of the best voices I've heard out of all elves in any fantasy franchise.
I'm glad at least Bioware didn't give him an accent from the British Isles and make him a generic elf. The voice actor, Jim Ward, did an excellent job with his performance, in my opinion. His voice during the line "Have faith, Knight-Commander" was what helped me enjoy his standoff against the Qunari at the front palace doors if you chose the distraction route. I could believe that he was truly a badass as a single mage standing off against a unit of Qunari in that moment, one of the few moments I actually enjoyed in the game.
Love him or hate him, Orsino has an awesome voice
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Posté 21 juin 2011 - 03:09
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these are facts i cannot deny
shame what they did to him, though
shame what they did to him, though
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Posté 21 juin 2011 - 03:13
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He's one of the better designed elves and he did have an awesome voice, and I would've enjoyed his character greatly had he not gone all Harvestino at the end. I wish I could've met him before Act 2's climax.
I wish he could've survived. He could've been a decent leader, or even general, for mages. Had he been developed properly, had he not had anything to do with Quentin (or there at least should've been an inclination that after finding out about what he was doing he ceased contact with him), he would've been an amazing mage character.
EDIT: Derp. Incomplete thought.
I wish he could've survived. He could've been a decent leader, or even general, for mages. Had he been developed properly, had he not had anything to do with Quentin (or there at least should've been an inclination that after finding out about what he was doing he ceased contact with him), he would've been an amazing mage character.
EDIT: Derp. Incomplete thought.
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Posté 21 juin 2011 - 03:47
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Aesthetically he was great. Great VA. Great character model (head, hair, etc). Great robe. Great staff. Major points to whoever worked on his character design.
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Posté 21 juin 2011 - 04:46
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He did have a nice voice, and I wish we could have talked to him more/got to know him better. Maybe (though I doubt it) we'd have gotten some inkling about what... erm... methods... he'd use in the penultimate fight.
Can't really remember what he said at the Keep - I was still keeping a wary eye on Meredith after her Ace Rimmer introduction when saving Hawke from the saarebas. I was half-expecting her to say, 'Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast' as she walked off
Can't really remember what he said at the Keep - I was still keeping a wary eye on Meredith after her Ace Rimmer introduction when saving Hawke from the saarebas. I was half-expecting her to say, 'Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast' as she walked off
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I dunno, Tuvok was pretty good.
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Posté 21 juin 2011 - 07:31
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Filament wrote...
I dunno, Tuvok was pretty good.
Heh, I have to agree with this.
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Posté 21 juin 2011 - 07:49
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jaybee93 wrote...
Filament wrote...
I dunno, Tuvok was pretty good.
Heh, I have to agree with this.
Well...
Vulcans/Romulans ARE kinda like space elves in Star Trek
And yes, Tuvok was awesome, too.
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Posté 21 juin 2011 - 08:03
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nightscrawl wrote...
Aesthetically he was great. Great VA. Great character model (head, hair, etc). Great robe. Great staff. Major points to whoever worked on his character design.
Pretty much this. His character design was one of the few exceptions to my issues with the new elf designs.
The most glaring error was the character development. If the story was more coherent and Orsino's moments were more fleshed out, he actually could have been the leader of the mages that everyone expected him to be.
But yes, his voice... When we first saw "him" in "Night Terrors", I was hoping he wouldn't sound too generic, and I was pleasantly surprised by how tough and authoritative he sounded as Hawke's representation when choosing the "gently guide Feynriel out of the Fade" options.
Just watched a video with the final section of "Demands of the Qun". I misquoted the line I mentioned from there. He says "Have confidence, Knight-Commander", not "faith". Still doesn't detract from the coolness :happy:. Watching the video, he sounded great in other lines, too. Jim Ward was a great casting choice. Great delivery all around. If the game ended after Act 2 or they didn't have Orsino go all Harvester on us players, he would have been one of my favorite characters in the game. As it is he does come close based on design and VO alone.
Ward also had good scene chemistry with Meredith's VO. I thought the two played off eachother well.
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Posté 21 juin 2011 - 03:19
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I couldn't agree more with the OP. I got seriously tired of the Dalish accents in DA2. It seemed so much more forced.
I'm very tired of any of the races having distinct human accents from real life. It seems too many fantasy/RPG games think Elves and Dwarves somehow equate to Welsh and/or Irish accents.
To me this is so silly and it breaks immersion. I also especially don't like the "generic ambiguous euro" accent they gave Orlesians & Antivans. (Think Comp De Launcet, Zevran, Marjolene )
Orsino showed how to do it right sans the accent. Leliana's was good too. Also enjoyed Merril's -- I guess it just takes a good voice actor to have a more subtle accent. (And/or no accent).
Maybe Orsino will come back from the dead for DA3 though, hah.
I'm very tired of any of the races having distinct human accents from real life. It seems too many fantasy/RPG games think Elves and Dwarves somehow equate to Welsh and/or Irish accents.
To me this is so silly and it breaks immersion. I also especially don't like the "generic ambiguous euro" accent they gave Orlesians & Antivans. (Think Comp De Launcet, Zevran, Marjolene )
Orsino showed how to do it right sans the accent. Leliana's was good too. Also enjoyed Merril's -- I guess it just takes a good voice actor to have a more subtle accent. (And/or no accent).
Maybe Orsino will come back from the dead for DA3 though, hah.
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Posté 21 juin 2011 - 05:09
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Why, oh why, did they have to kill off Orsino in DA2? He was one of my favorite characters, and in my first playthrough, my jaw dropped to the floor when I saw him morph into that...thing. Total WTF moment, right there, but I digress.
I concur, Orsino's VA was spot-on, and as a character, I really loved his conviction and courage. I do wish that we would have gotten more of a chance to know him, though. If you side with the mages, we should have had an opportunity to find out about his past, like we get to with Meredith if you side with the Templars.
Sidenote, and totally off topic, but I'm still not pleased that Lilley was murdered, either. <_<
I concur, Orsino's VA was spot-on, and as a character, I really loved his conviction and courage. I do wish that we would have gotten more of a chance to know him, though. If you side with the mages, we should have had an opportunity to find out about his past, like we get to with Meredith if you side with the Templars.
Sidenote, and totally off topic, but I'm still not pleased that Lilley was murdered, either. <_<
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 12:51
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I couldn't agree more with the OP. I got seriously tired of the Dalish accents in DA2. It seemed so much more forced.
I'm very tired of any of the races having distinct human accents from real life. It seems too many fantasy/RPG games think Elves and Dwarves somehow equate to Welsh and/or Irish accents.
I completely agree with you here, and this is what bothers me most about fantasy franchises. I personally find high/regal/mystic accents on all elves to be overused and boring. The Lord of the Rings movies, as well as TES Oblivion, were the last things that I didn't mind those types of accents for. However, I liked the voice system for elves in Morrowind the best. Hopefully Skyrim will have distinct voices for each race again, since Bethesda has worked hard on the graphics and sound.
As for the Dwarves, I was extremely surprised and glad that the dwarves didn't all sound like Gimli. I'm sorry, but that scot-sounding, axe-wielding stereotype is bothersome and I'm glad it ended with such awesome things as Bhelen, the dwarf commoner origin, Varric, etc.
I also especially don't like the "generic ambiguous euro" accent they gave Orlesians & Antivans. (Think Comp De Launcet, Zevran, Marjolene )
I disagree with you here, though. I do like how each nation in Thedas parallels a nation in medieval european/world history. It adds character, in my opinion. However, I will say sometimes I wonder, given the wide range of silly and normal accents we've heard from Orlesians, whether Bioware is trying to make fun of the French or not
.Orsino showed how to do it right sans the accent. Leliana's was good too. Also enjoyed Merril's -- I guess it just takes a good voice actor to have a more subtle accent. (And/or no accent).
Agreed, and I didn't mind Leliana's accent either, though it was weird at times. My brother commented once that he wasn't sure whether it was French-based, as I told him, or even South African. But back to Orsino... I think more elves should follow Jim Ward's example.
Maybe Orsino will come back from the dead for DA3 though, hah.
zombie-Orsino ftw!!!
Lol j/k. But seriously
I hope nothing like that happens. It'll just ruin the story more and ruin whats left of the character integrity that wasn't lost by the writers putting in the Harvester change.However I wouldn't mind some form of DLC that goes into Orsino's origins, like "Leliana's Song" did for Leliana. I know, from the codex, that Orsino was born in another city, was raised in a different Circle of Magi, and had been transferred to Kirkwall some point later in life. Maybe the DLC could go into his origins as well as events that shaped his opinions of the Mage/Templar conflict prior to the events of Dragon Age 2.
I'll tell you right now, its the only story DLC I'd consider buying for the game if my idea is taken.
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 03:21
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I would min such a DLC, if hawke is not there, I won't buy it.
I was upset of Leliana dlc not having the warden, thats why I havent been able to play it/finished.
And the golem/WH DLC not having Zev or Leliana was a let down aswell.
I can understand not having Morrigan ( with child) Alistar is (King) in all my games but the other 2 romances?? yeah it was bad.
I was upset of Leliana dlc not having the warden, thats why I havent been able to play it/finished.
And the golem/WH DLC not having Zev or Leliana was a let down aswell.
I can understand not having Morrigan ( with child) Alistar is (King) in all my games but the other 2 romances?? yeah it was bad.
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 06:53
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@Huntress- valid points to bring up, though I didn't care for Leliana's Song to buy it. Anyway I was just posting an idea, as appreciation for the work the VO put into Orsino's character.
I'm also redirecting so that other people who see your post don't enter in here and get off topic with complaints/flaming/otherwise because even if I'd normally be among those complainers, its not often one sees a thread for appreciating the hard work of voice actors for particular roles
I'm also redirecting so that other people who see your post don't enter in here and get off topic with complaints/flaming/otherwise because even if I'd normally be among those complainers, its not often one sees a thread for appreciating the hard work of voice actors for particular roles
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 08:20
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zombie-Orsino ftw!!!
Lol j/k. But seriously
However I wouldn't mind some form of DLC that goes into Orsino's origins, like "Leliana's Song" did for Leliana. I know, from the codex, that Orsino was born in another city, was raised in a different Circle of Magi, and had been transferred to Kirkwall some point later in life. Maybe the DLC could go into his origins as well as events that shaped his opinions of the Mage/Templar conflict prior to the events of Dragon Age 2.
I'll tell you right now, its the only story DLC I'd consider buying for the game if my idea is taken.
I'll admit it. I nerdraged when Orsino went all blood mage on me.
"ARGH!!! I thought we were bros!?!"
I even replayed the game as a mage to see if I could get a different outcome, but no dice.
Agree with what has already been said though, great voice actor, great character design...great everything.
Honestly, I would like to see a DLC for all of the companions in DA:2. All of them seemed to have a lot going on long before they met Hawke. Isabela stealing the relic, Fenris escaping Denarius, Anders running from the Wardens (hell there was even a short story written for it). Lots of potential of great DLCs, but I highly doubt Bioware/EA will go there.
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Posté 23 juin 2011 - 12:02
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DaiyoukaiGeisha wrote...
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*snip my own post*
I'll admit it. I nerdraged when Orsino went all blood mage on me.
"ARGH!!! I thought we were bros!?!"
I even replayed the game as a mage to see if I could get a different outcome, but no dice.
Agree with what has already been said though, great voice actor, great character design...great everything.
I just beat the game today for a second time, playing as a Warrior Hawke siding with the Templars. I have to admit, as much as the craziness at the end by both him and Meredith is unwanted by most of the players and not done so well, Jim Ward's delivery when pleading with Hawke to side with the mages, and before he turns into the Harvester, was great and well-performed. He certainly knows how to play both ordered/wise and manic/desperate.
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Posté 23 juin 2011 - 06:53
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My only dream was Orsino as a PC in DA 3
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Posté 26 juin 2011 - 04:27
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He is a creepy old man 
A creepy AWESOME old man, though.
A creepy AWESOME old man, though.
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brain_damage wrote...
He is a creepy old man
Technically, he's creepy (the whole "secret bloodmage" thing and how he "came out of the knife" so to speak)
Technically, he's old, and a man
Technically, even with the stupidity of Act 3's ending, he's still pretty awesome
