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[The Twilight God]

If Ashley or Kaidan are SPECTREs can I take it that they are incapable of falling in combat? I foresee alot of facepalm when random mooks are pwning a SPECTRE.

*Kaidan hits Mook #11 with a throw*
Kaidan: Have a nice trip!!
*Mook #54 opens fire on Kaidan*
Cerberus Mook #54: Haha! This guy isn't even taking cover. He standing on top of it like an idiot!!!
*Kaidan goes down*
Cerberus Mook #54: Who-hoo!! I'm such a badass!! I just took down a SPECTRE. 
Cerberus Mook #25: Nah, they're letting everybody into the SPECTREs these days. They offered me a spot too but I declined. I'm overqualified because I stay behind the cover. If I as a SPECTRE nobody would intimidated by me.

If they are no better or worse than any other companion, can I also assume that they can use Unity and that they can revive Shepard if he goes down making them a preferred companion?

[Siansonea]

Yeah, combat AI needs work.

[Raiil]

I doubt they'll be anything special. But now I want to see Kaidan getting owned by random baddie #425243.

[ADLegend21]

I hope they stay in cover better, unlike Garrus who constanly LEAVES cover when his health in dangerously low, forcing me to use unfathomable amounts of medigel on him in the 100's of hours I've logged over both games.

[ThatDancingTurian]

I kind of get the feeling the VS is a Spectre only for political reasons, to get eyes off of Shepard. In which case they wouldn't be especially stronger than they were before. Becoming a Spectre doesn't automatically bestow you with superpowers or anything.

As for people being intimidated... Eh, that doesn't work like it should with Shepard either.

[Bachi1230]

Thane is a master Assassin who sticks to the shadows an- hey get off that box!

[Siansonea]

Yeah, better combat AI please. And snipers—don't use your damn sniper rifles at shotgun range, they aren't shotguns. If you're squishy, STAY IN COVER. If you're a tank, STAY IN COVER. If you're told to stay in cover, STAY IN COVER. Really, the combat AI does suck quite a bit. I'd really like to not micromanage my squad tactics, that aspect of the game is So Not Fun for me. :/

[The Twilight God]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

As for people being intimidated... Eh, that doesn't work like it should with Shepard either.

It works with Aria, Elias Kelham and that C-Sec officer. The vast majority of people aren't even aware of who you are until you tell them. The only situations that enemy combatants are aware of who Shepard is are Purtagory and The Strontium Mule.  In one case greed overpowers sense and the other they are trapped like rats and have nowhere to run. The leaders even barracade themselves.

I like that one part in DA:O Awakening when you go to rescue that noble's daughter and you say something to the effect of "I'm the Hero of Ferelden. I eat dragons. Do you really want to do this?" And then when the realize who you are half of them run away and jump of the ledge. I loved that scene. We need some of that in ME3 when dealing with regular mercs. I want some people to beg for their lives like that merc begged Blasto to spare him.

[ThatDancingTurian]

I couldn't even trigger the one with Elias Kelham, you can't even tell him you're a Spectre unless you have max Renegade for some reason, despite it being a simple fact that shouldn't be tied to any morality. As for Aria, she seems pretty unconcerned with your being a Spectre.

[The Twilight God]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

I couldn't even trigger the one with Elias Kelham, you can't even tell him you're a Spectre unless you have max Renegade for some reason, despite it being a simple fact that shouldn't be tied to any morality. As for Aria, she seems pretty unconcerned with your being a Spectre.

Is that why the first thing she does when you arrive is request an audience?  If she didn't care she wouldn't have sent that Batarian the moment a dead SPECTRE showed up.

And paragon Shepard isn't badass enough to play the SPECTRE card.  How a guy who lived on the Citadel during the attack doesn't know what Shepard looks like is beyond me.  I'm surprised everyone there doesn't recognize him from pictures. Well, at least the Asari and humans. 

[Shepard Lives]

I always take at least twenty minutes to facepalm and express my disappointment whenever Shepard gets killed in combat. Because, you know, he's a Spectre.

Anyway, gameplay and story segregation.

[Whyp_2]

The reason why I think the VS is a Spectre in ME3 is because for political reasons. When you're travelling around the galaxy trying to recruit the other species, you might wanna need that kind of access that Spectres get, just like in ME1, more or less.

Why the VS is aslo a Spectre could be that there's the possibility that Shepard is not a Spectre anymore, and that where the VS comes in. However, if Shepard is a Spectre, than that is twice the better

[Badpie]

Bachi1230 wrote...

Thane is a master Assassin who sticks to the shadows an- hey get off that box!

[The Twilight God]

Shepard Lives wrote...

I always take at least twenty minutes to facepalm and express my disappointment whenever Shepard gets killed in combat. Because, you know, he's a Spectre.

Anyway, gameplay and story segregation.

Shepard never goes down in combat vs any random mook. The only thing that can take him down is prothean or reaper artifact blasts, but that's not the same as being taken out by some mook.

[The Twilight God]

Whyp_2 wrote...

The reason why I think the VS is a Spectre in ME3 is because for political reasons. When you're travelling around the galaxy trying to recruit the other species, you might wanna need that kind of access that Spectres get, just like in ME1, more or less.

Why the VS is aslo a Spectre could be that there's the possibility that Shepard is not a Spectre anymore, and that where the VS comes in. However, if Shepard is a Spectre, than that is twice the better

I think in light of a gencidal intergalactic war against giant robot overlords Citadel law doesn't mean much of anything so that SPECTRE perk is irrelevent. Probably Anderson and Udina cut corners to make their own personal go to lacky.

[Robhuzz]

Whyp_2 wrote...

The reason why I think the VS is a Spectre in ME3 is because for political reasons. When you're travelling around the galaxy trying to recruit the other species, you might wanna need that kind of access that Spectres get, just like in ME1, more or less.

Why the VS is aslo a Spectre could be that there's the possibility that Shepard is not a Spectre anymore, and that where the VS comes in. However, if Shepard is a Spectre, than that is twice the better

I think the council just wanted to keep an eye on Shepard and all, and in order to do that the most effectively they'd need someone who was in the alliance AND someone who is not restricted by rules, AKA made a spectre. So in comes Ashley/Kaidan the Spectre with the sole mission of keeping an eye on their former commander. Can't imagine it was for their skill since both the turian councillor and Nihlus say only the very best get asked to join the Spectres (rather than say the best 10 of every species)

I will be interested to hear what they have to say about it in ME3 though. If they had become a spectre I have no doubt they'd try to show it off a bit...

[Funkcase]

InviolateNK wrote...

Whyp_2 wrote...

The reason why I think the VS is a Spectre in ME3 is because for political reasons. When you're travelling around the galaxy trying to recruit the other species, you might wanna need that kind of access that Spectres get, just like in ME1, more or less.

Why the VS is aslo a Spectre could be that there's the possibility that Shepard is not a Spectre anymore, and that where the VS comes in. However, if Shepard is a Spectre, than that is twice the better

Even for political reasons...I understand why Shepard was a spectre. Kaidan is a great and useful biotic but just that and the fact the he was there with Shepard all the way (in my playthroughs)...he still lacks something that Shepard has. I like Kaidan but I wouldn't make him a spectre.
But Ashley...oh please.  If she's the VS, that's why she's back in ME 3.  In ME 2 Shepard stopped the Collectors. For the Alliance that was a more or less quiet period. What did Ashley manage to do during the events of ME 2 to deserve being a spectre? She was just a regular soldier, nothing more. If I could, I'd leave her back on Eden Prime. Oh yeah, she's also a potential LI - that's all there is special to her and will always be. But that can never be enough to become a spectre.

And Shepard was also a Grunt in ME1 before he became a Spectre.
 
I know this is off topic but lately why do people on here say ''Just a regular soldier'? ''or just a grunt''?' Way to put down service men and women everywhere, have more respect for them assh*le. A normal soldier can acomplish great things.

Modifié par Funkcase, 21 juin 2011 - 03:35 .

[CroGamer002]

*sigh*

This again?

[Funkcase]

Mesina2 wrote...

*sigh*

This again?

Indeed, Mesina. It would appear some people dont use the search box, lol.

[Funkcase]

InviolateNK wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

InviolateNK wrote...

Whyp_2 wrote...

The reason why I think the VS is a Spectre in ME3 is because for political reasons. When you're travelling around the galaxy trying to recruit the other species, you might wanna need that kind of access that Spectres get, just like in ME1, more or less.

Why the VS is aslo a Spectre could be that there's the possibility that Shepard is not a Spectre anymore, and that where the VS comes in. However, if Shepard is a Spectre, than that is twice the better

Even for political reasons...I understand why Shepard was a spectre. Kaidan is a great and useful biotic but just that and the fact the he was there with Shepard all the way (in my playthroughs)...he still lacks something that Shepard has. I like Kaidan but I wouldn't make him a spectre.
But Ashley...oh please.  If she's the VS, that's why she's back in ME 3.  In ME 2 Shepard stopped the Collectors. For the Alliance that was a more or less quiet period. What did Ashley manage to do during the events of ME 2 to deserve being a spectre? She was just a regular soldier, nothing more. If I could, I'd leave her back on Eden Prime. Oh yeah, she's also a potential LI - that's all there is special to her and will always be. But that can never be enough to become a spectre.

And Shepard was also a Grunt in ME1 before he became a Spectre. And lately why do people on here say ''Just a regular soldier'? ''or just a grunt''?' Way to put down service men and women everywhere, have more respect for them assh*le. A normal soldier can acomplish great things.

"Just a soldier" was not supposed to basically put down soldiers, I meant that her rank was lower than Kaidan's.  I'm not sure Kaidan deserves to become a spectre, but Ashley doesn't deserve that at all.
Besides, we're here talking about video game characters, so calm down assh*le.

I wasn't talking about the game when I was talking about soldiers, I was mearly asking why everyone on here seems to call them ''just a soldier' like there's something wrong with it. It was just conected to the current discussion. Being from a family of soldiers, where it's tradition to join the military, having grown up in the military, and having so many friends who have joined and some that have died in combat makes it get to me when people put them down.

Modifié par Funkcase, 21 juin 2011 - 03:49 .

[mineralica]

So, the SpeCTRe "falling" in battle is a problem now? Huh!
The strongest human biotic who destroyed three YMIRs with single attack... falls in battle on regular basis - because, you know, shotgun in hands doesn't immediately make you a tank.
Asari justicar with 400 years combat expertise... is rather fragile in battle. And if you compare her barrier (asari with abilities of matriarch) and Tela Vasir's... umm...
Salarian who killed several krogans with a pitchfork and dealt with Bloodpack attacking his clinic... falls in battle. Less than previous two, but still.

The trick is that no one of them really dies ("Miranda, I need in Lazarus 16.0 NAOW! Wait... Miranda?") or even gets injured (at least they stand up later without any damage to characteristics and Shepard isn't forced to send anyone to med bay, interrupting the mission), thus "falling in battle" is a pure gameplay event, having no importance storywise.

[ashlover mark 2]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

I couldn't even trigger the one with Elias Kelham, you can't even tell him you're a Spectre unless you have max Renegade for some reason, despite it being a simple fact that shouldn't be tied to any morality. As for Aria, she seems pretty unconcerned with your being a Spectre.

you can use your spectre status without max Renegade against Elias.be the bad cop and dont hit him or be to intimadating,let the interagation play out and allow his lawyer to walk in.the lawyer will say he will sue thane and shepard and take his case all the way to the council.

you can then use your spectre status to make elias and lawyer **** in their pants....its actually even more satisfying to allow it to play out this way.