Personally I preferred it when you could barely see through the mask in the first game. For me, Tali's mask has always been her face and anything else would be too much of a change.
The Tali's face Main Thread (also contains Tali's appearence wishlist)
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Posté 21 juin 2011 - 11:39
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Give them light skin, funky eyes, and hair. They'd look alien enough with their weird eyes and exotic body shape. Please give them hair. We have enough bald aliens and Tali picture +2244592infinity where she has head ridges or some other weird scalp design is not creative at this point. EVERY ALIEN HAS THAT.
Hair makes sense given the ecology of the quarian homeworld.
No, it is not a big deal for them to cut it periodically. No acid treatments or implants are necessary to remove it. Just take your damn helmet off once every month or so for a couple of minutes and give it a trim. It's not a big deal.
If they can take their suits off for showers they can cut their hair as well.
Hair makes sense given the ecology of the quarian homeworld.
No, it is not a big deal for them to cut it periodically. No acid treatments or implants are necessary to remove it. Just take your damn helmet off once every month or so for a couple of minutes and give it a trim. It's not a big deal.
If they can take their suits off for showers they can cut their hair as well.
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Posté 21 juin 2011 - 11:42
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According to the games and books, they are very human looking.
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Posté 21 juin 2011 - 11:44
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Ugh, one of the things I would hate is for her to have hair. It would be completely nasty growing in that helmet with no grooming. I'm not talking cutting, I'm talking brushing and washing. It'd be so matted.
I don't think they take off their suits for showers. That's kind of the point, they can't just take off the suits whenever they like. That's why Tali taking off her mask was kind of a big deal.
I don't think they take off their suits for showers. That's kind of the point, they can't just take off the suits whenever they like. That's why Tali taking off her mask was kind of a big deal.
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Posté 21 juin 2011 - 11:47
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Aris Ravenstar wrote...
I don't think they take off their suits for showers.
Well you're wrong, kid. It's in Ascension.
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Posté 21 juin 2011 - 11:51
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I haven't read the books. Anyway, Tali wouldn't be able to do that and neither would any quarians on Pilgrimage, so it'd still be pretty gross for them.Saphra Deden wrote...
Aris Ravenstar wrote...
I don't think they take off their suits for showers.
Well you're wrong, kid. It's in Ascension.
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Posté 21 juin 2011 - 11:52
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Hair I think is just an aesthetic choice. We can go over hair and no hair, and when they release that she has hair we'll be debating on the color. It's really a personal thing. Half the Tali/Quarian fans will be happy and the other half will be disappointed. BioWare hasn't let me down yet for good characters as well as their designs.
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Posté 21 juin 2011 - 11:54
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I haven't read the books. Anyway, Tali wouldn't be able to do that and neither would any quarians on Pilgrimage, so it'd still be pretty gross for them.
It would not be hard for a quarian to locate a relatively sterile room every other month or so on any given space station or colony, especially considering the modular design of most Mass Effect dwelling.
Find a bathroom. Scrub it down. Good to go.
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Posté 21 juin 2011 - 11:58
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I just don't think monthly washings would be enough. Even if you manage to get out the inevitable matting, day to day it'll still be greasy (either from normal body secretions or those 'antibiotics' they're occasionally 'swimming in') and tangled. Unless of course they kept it buzzed, in which case... What's the point?
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 12:07
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I tend to imagine a Quarian's envirosuit would be equipped to keep skin, hair etc clean. This IS the 22nd century after all and the Quarians have been living in their envirosuits for a long time. I tend to doubt it's not at least to some degree able to keep them clean.
Furthermore not having hair(or a hair analogue) wouldn't really make sense given what we know about Quarians. It's noted that on Rannoch animals pollinated plants which would seem to require something similar to hair(perhaps the quills Pride Demon mentioned) to aid in that process.
Furthermore not having hair(or a hair analogue) wouldn't really make sense given what we know about Quarians. It's noted that on Rannoch animals pollinated plants which would seem to require something similar to hair(perhaps the quills Pride Demon mentioned) to aid in that process.
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 12:10
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Who's to say their hair is like ours? Maybe it's more straight and ridged like little quills. Or that it's some how infused with cybernetics to keep it in line. Seems an easy enough fix for the solution. Again the hair seems simply an aesthetic preference.
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 12:11
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This is the best representation, and my favorite, of what Tali's face looks like, in my opinion:
from DeviantArt user st-dementia (http://st-dementia.deviantart.com/)
the lip structure is what I like most about this. I seriously doubt Tali has big lips (she isn't really "sultry"... more cute in personality) and typically sultry, sexy women in fiction have bigger lips to represent this. I imagine Tali has a similar face structure to Kalli from "Firefly".
I don't care either way for the ridges or the multiple nostrils. They could make her more alien, which is cool. Either way, I like the skin color, too, and who knows if Quarian skin reacts the same way to sun exposure as human skin does, or even if melanin reacts the same way to Quarians as it does to Humans. Perhaps Quarians are dark as default.
from DeviantArt user st-dementia (http://st-dementia.deviantart.com/)
the lip structure is what I like most about this. I seriously doubt Tali has big lips (she isn't really "sultry"... more cute in personality) and typically sultry, sexy women in fiction have bigger lips to represent this. I imagine Tali has a similar face structure to Kalli from "Firefly".
I don't care either way for the ridges or the multiple nostrils. They could make her more alien, which is cool. Either way, I like the skin color, too, and who knows if Quarian skin reacts the same way to sun exposure as human skin does, or even if melanin reacts the same way to Quarians as it does to Humans. Perhaps Quarians are dark as default.
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 12:22
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The four nostrils kinda throw me off a bit, but the pointed teeth are freaking perfect!PureMethodActor wrote...
This is the best representation, and my favorite, of what Tali's face looks like, in my opinion:
from DeviantArt user st-dementia (http://st-dementia.deviantart.com/)
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 01:22
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The four nostrils kinda throw me off a bit, but the pointed teeth are freaking perfect!
Hmm... I never noticed the pointed teeth as much, but cool. That could work :happy:
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 01:38
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I think as far as Quarian hair goes, I really like the idea of cybernetic-like. It might sound a little corny but I like the idea of envisioning it a bit like wires, and to get around the whole "hair doesn't work in a suit" thing, it could perhaps interface with the helmet so that it actually doesn't get in the way at all. PureMethodActor, I actually really like that picture. The pointed teeth work very well and almost make them kind of cat-like. If Turians are bird-like, why not have Quarians cat-like yeah? Though I do think Garrus is the odd case of being a cat-bird. 
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 01:44
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My question about the illustration above: Why would her eyes glow? I can see that her eyes might glow through the helmet, some kind of reflection from her retinas bouncing off the inside of the helmet surface, but realistically, why would eyes glow? I know that a person using biotics can have glowing eyes, but a non-biotic person with glowing eyes doesn't make anatomical sense to me. Asari eyes are unusual because the can either "go black" or glow, but again, that's asari and they're naturally biotic. I always thought the "going black" was an involuntary response, the eyes protecting themselves from light as the asari's senses focus inward. I envision either a nictitating membrane, or some sort of "squid ink" substance that comes out of a reservoir-like lachrymal gland and into a small void between two layers of the sclera, and then back into the reservoir. But glowing eyes on a quarian? Is it a cybernetic contact lens?
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 01:55
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This picture has probably been posted, but I think this would be perfect:
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I love the elongated skull and the cheekbones. I don't really see how she would have much hair either, that wouldn't really work in her suit. I am fine with her being bald, although I guess, as it was mentioned above, that short hair wouldn't interfere with anything.
She would look plenty "alien" using the above model and adding facial textures and coloring. In the end, if we do see here face, there is no design that would make everyone content. A lot of people are going to through fits and call her disgusting. That's part of the reason why I think Bioware might not even bother.
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I love the elongated skull and the cheekbones. I don't really see how she would have much hair either, that wouldn't really work in her suit. I am fine with her being bald, although I guess, as it was mentioned above, that short hair wouldn't interfere with anything.
She would look plenty "alien" using the above model and adding facial textures and coloring. In the end, if we do see here face, there is no design that would make everyone content. A lot of people are going to through fits and call her disgusting. That's part of the reason why I think Bioware might not even bother.
Modifié par Alock1a, 22 juin 2011 - 02:10 .
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 01:57
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Seems I remember the devs saying Tali is a hermaphrodite.
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 02:17
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I always pictured the Quarians having a sort of primal look to them, like Turians. The claws and feet thing kinda made me think that. Pointed teeth work really well. Also just thought of the sort of reverb in their voices might be because of the four nostrils, Just a guess, still not really a fan of that.
The wire-like hair is a really good idea. At least it would get us past the whole Hair dispute.
Glowing eyes... cybernetic lens maybe? Helps them track electrical impulses in electronic devices? Many ways that could go really.
The wire-like hair is a really good idea. At least it would get us past the whole Hair dispute.
Glowing eyes... cybernetic lens maybe? Helps them track electrical impulses in electronic devices? Many ways that could go really.
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 02:18
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slimgrin wrote...
Seems I remember the devs saying Tali is a hermaphrodite.
Yummy but unlikely.
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 02:23
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My question about the illustration above: Why would her eyes glow? I can see that her eyes might glow through the helmet, some kind of reflection from her retinas bouncing off the inside of the helmet surface, but realistically, why would eyes glow? I know that a person using biotics can have glowing eyes, but a non-biotic person with glowing eyes doesn't make anatomical sense to me. Asari eyes are unusual because the can either "go black" or glow, but again, that's asari and they're naturally biotic. I always thought the "going black" was an involuntary response, the eyes protecting themselves from light as the asari's senses focus inward. I envision either a nictitating membrane, or some sort of "squid ink" substance that comes out of a reservoir-like lachrymal gland and into a small void between two layers of the sclera, and then back into the reservoir. But glowing eyes on a quarian? Is it a cybernetic contact lens?
Its based on the fact that Tali's eyes glow through the mask, and that its either speculated or confirmed that Quarian eyes are bioluminescent, therefore always glowing.
The image I posted I think is awesome because of that. Since hearing about the bioluminescense, I picture Tali's eyes like that always.
Can a dev or someone who can look for a previous dev comment answer whether Quarian eyes are bioluminescent or not?
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 02:30
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Leave the mask on. makes her unique.
Don't take it off and let her become another one of the standard supermodel-pretty females in these games.
Don't take it off and let her become another one of the standard supermodel-pretty females in these games.
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 02:33
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PureMethodActor, I actually really like that picture. The pointed teeth
work very well and almost make them kind of cat-like. If Turians are
bird-like, why not have Quarians cat-like yeah? Though I do think Garrus
is the odd case of being a cat-bird.
Hmm, I never really noticed a lot of what you described, but seeing it now, I can almost see Tali's face as having a certain cat-like aspect to it. It certainly would remind a lot of people of Juhani, thats for sure
. And Juhani is a character people still wish was a love interest in vanilla-KOTOR. Either way, I love the pic I posted because the look and her expression there represent her personality. Its like, it jumps at me that THAT's Tali.@Alock1a- That isn't bad face-or-body-wise, but the lips I have a problem with. They seem a little too big for me to match her personality, but thats also partly my preference talking.
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Seems I remember the devs saying Tali is a hermaphrodite.
Hehe, I can't tell whether that is a troll comment or not, slimgrin
. I know you somewhat and I've never seen you actually troll (even when we were arguing about certain movies), so I'd REALLY like to see a quote on this matter, whenever you can find it.
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 02:48
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The pose is definitely Tali.
@Naahh. So far the only super model character I've seen is Miranda. Ash, Not sexy in the least. Liara, had such a strange face. Jack, make a girl nearly naked with tattoos and she's going to be sexy. Tali...and the Quarian people in general, I think it would just be one of the big reveals for 3.
@Naahh. So far the only super model character I've seen is Miranda. Ash, Not sexy in the least. Liara, had such a strange face. Jack, make a girl nearly naked with tattoos and she's going to be sexy. Tali...and the Quarian people in general, I think it would just be one of the big reveals for 3.
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 02:57
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PureMethodActor wrote...
Hehe, I can't tell whether that is a troll comment or not, slimgrin
I'm trolling.
Actually, I like Tali and I think Bioware's art team has the chops and the talent to show us her face.
