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[nakrato]

S.A.K wrote...

I say Tali might have short hair. She got a hood and we don't know whats the shape of her helmet is from the back. So it might have some room for hair

 Pretty good art work I'd say, but I cant look at for more than five seconds without feeling weird, so for the four seconds I watched it, I hope that the real face resembles this somewhat, I don't want it to bee THIS since it a bit too... uhmm... wishfull thinkin, I mean it's just a bit too hopefull about amazing beauty, when I doubt that she will be the quarian supermodel of the century. But somewhat along those line would be fine, I think. 

Modifié par nakrato, 22 juin 2011 - 09:18 .

[nakrato]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

HAWKNUTS007 wrote...

curious question. whats so wrong with the "space elf" idea?

It's a cliche and a cop-out. We already have one 'alien' race that looks too human just for the sake of being attractive to male gamers, we don't need another. She's another species, she shouldn't have a 90% human face.

But that's just my opinion and I didn't romance Tali, so I suppose I don't have as much investment in it as some people.

I still like this one best, but I highly doubt quarians will look like that.

 That model freaks me the F out, I won't lie.

[Nashiktal]

nakrato wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

HAWKNUTS007 wrote...

curious question. whats so wrong with the "space elf" idea?

It's a cliche and a cop-out. We already have one 'alien' race that looks too human just for the sake of being attractive to male gamers, we don't need another. She's another species, she shouldn't have a 90% human face.

But that's just my opinion and I didn't romance Tali, so I suppose I don't have as much investment in it as some people.

I still like this one best, but I highly doubt quarians will look like that.

 That model freaks me the F out, I won't lie.

I love the direction, but unfortunately the artist ignores what we already do see. Understandable though considering the reasons he lists in his/her post.

The only real nitpick I have with this design is that it looks a little too similar to the Elcor. 

Modifié par Nashiktal, 22 juin 2011 - 09:41 .

[Siansonea]

nakrato wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

HAWKNUTS007 wrote...

curious question. whats so wrong with the "space elf" idea?

It's a cliche and a cop-out. We already have one 'alien' race that looks too human just for the sake of being attractive to male gamers, we don't need another. She's another species, she shouldn't have a 90% human face.

But that's just my opinion and I didn't romance Tali, so I suppose I don't have as much investment in it as some people.

I still like this one best, but I highly doubt quarians will look like that.

 That model freaks me the F out, I won't lie.

That is a pretty cool alien design—but not for a quarian. There's no way that's underneath Tali's helmet. Like it or not, they have to use the "placeholder" face as a starting point, so that the spatial relationships among the features that are barely visible throught he helmet are consistent with the unmasked appearance. There is still a lot they can do to expand upon the placeholder face, and I think skin texture, color variegation, etc. are an opportunity to make quarians look more alien. Maybe give quarians an "aquatic" feel, or slightly reptilian (but not as reptilian as drell). Actually salarians are probably a good type to follow, as far as skin texture and color distribution, eye morphology, etc. Quarians could have some kind of crest or frill on the posterior skull, but it would have to be unlike asari and turian crests. Hair just doesn't seem appropriate to me. Perhaps some type of vestigial amphibian features? Maybe instead of "teeth" they have a hardened palate or something? I dunno, just throwing out ideas.

[Nashiktal]

I don't know why but I always figured Quarians had sharp teeth.

[ShadowLordXXX]

Honestly most of those traits don't seem Quarian at all to me. Maybe I'm reading too much into Tali's talk about how Quarians evolved but it wouldn't seem to me like they should have reptilian/amphibian features(honestly this has been done more than human like aliens, why do we need more reptilian aliens(krogan, vorcha, turian, drell)?). I tend to think hair works with the concept that Quarians evolved with something of a symbiotic relationship with plants(Hair could hold pollen/spores and transport it) so some variety of hair, or something similar to hair seems like it would fit very well with Quarians(I think Pride Demon's Quil idea seems interesting, Alien, but not just alien to be alien).

As to Sharp teeth or odd teeth i don't see any reason why they couldn't, but batarians already sort of run with the mouth full of spikes idea.

Modifié par ShadowLordXXX, 22 juin 2011 - 10:24 .

[Homebound]

[ShadowLordXXX]

That's not too bad actually. With hair(or a hair analogue) something like that might work well.

[ElectricZ]

Seems something like Mystique from the X-Men movies might be a good choice...



Humanoid, but different enough to be alien, could easily fit behind the mask and match the "placeholder" without being squicky enough to make Shepard go "EWWWWWW put it back on!" in the pre-Omega 4 cutscene.

Though really if they made her radically NON-human, that would add punch to the romance since Shepard, and Tali for that matter, would truly be going by "it's what's inside that counts."

I think it would be very interesting to find out that the quarians universally think that humans are repulsive, but then again, I like Twilight Zone style twists...

[Krillos55]

Sometimes I wondered why everyone is so hell bent on believing that Quarians are near-humans. Sure, probably you could see little human features behind that mask, but to me, I'd say it's a big fat trap. That behind that mask is anything BUT human.

I'am very sorry if I wound people's feelings, but I have always considered near-humans as lack of imagination.

ElectricZ wrote...
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Though really if they made her radically NON-human, that would add punch to the romance since Shepard, and Tali for that matter, would truly be going by "it's what's inside that counts."

I agree and i certainly hope BioWare would go for that.

[Aedan_Cousland]

Siansonea II wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

The book already said about what quarians look like and they seem to resemble humans closely:
Quarians are generally shorter and of slighter build than humans. Quarians have an endoskeleton, lips, teeth, and two eyes with eyelids and tear ducts; they also have three thick fingers on both hands which include a thumb and an index finger, as well as three toes on each foot. Their lower legs are bowed backwards significantly, compared to asari or humans. Aside from hands and legs, their general body shape and sexual dimorphism is similar to humans. Their ears or ear analogues differ in a noticeable fashion from those of humans, with references made to "what [passes] for the quarian version of an ear".
So other than their years, legs and number of fingers, they might look very human.

There is a lot of room for artistic interpretation here. No mention is made of hair, fingernails, etc. The skin colors and textures are not mentioned either.

This.

The description of Quarians is deliberately vague in the books and there is still a lot of room for artistic interpretation. If Tali or any other Quarian's face is revealed, she isn't going to look like a human female. The facial bone structure would be similar but no doubt she'd have a different skin color and the eyes would be alien. We are also told that the Quarian ears are much smaller than humans, or that their ears are internal.

One thing Bioware should not do is give the Quarians hair. It would just make them look like human females with an exotic skin tone. Perhaps they should have feathers instead. The purpose of hair is to protect your brain both from extreme cold temperatures and from the scorching hear of the sun. But hair isn't the only thing that could perform that biological function. Although we typically associate feathers with avian creatures, feathers first evolved on land based reptiles and had nothing to do with flight. They served a similar purpose as hair or fur.

[ForumPortal]

 

[elearon1]

Hah! Man, I'd ... I don't know ... I could accept a lot, but ... yeah.

And that won't happen ... they've built up Tali as a love interest and cute-shy character, they'll want her to be attractive on some relatable level.

[Nashiktal]

Wrong thread to post that in mate, unless you are going to back it up with an in depth explanation.

You would want one of the joke threads.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

One thing Bioware should not do is give the Quarians hair. It would just make them look like human females with an exotic skin tone. Perhaps they should have feathers instead. The purpose of hair is to protect your brain both from extreme cold temperatures and from the scorching hear of the sun. But hair isn't the only thing that could perform that biological function. Although we typically associate feathers with avian creatures, feathers first evolved on land based reptiles and had nothing to do with flight. They served a similar purpose as hair or fur.

Feathers would be interesting and could lead to some nice designs. And I agree, feathers wouldn't have to mean birds on an alien that developed on a completely different world.

[Slurms McKenzie]

This is how I picture her:



@ForumPortal

I chucled hard at your post, Mate!

Good Luck and Stay Safe

[Gterror]

I knew that this thread was a bad idea...

[T.Attwood]

I have noticed that there have been quite a number of posts and opinions in favour of the idea of Tali having hair in the form of quills, and maybe emitting pollen (to relate to the symbiotic relationship with plants). In order to consolidate some of these ideas into visual form, and provide an idea of how this might look, I found this picture...

[S.A.K]

the top pic gave me chills lol. But that looks like a krogan

[xentar]

PureMethodActor wrote...

Parion wrote...

Eyes:- There are several good reasons for her eyes to glow. They may have been used to attract prey or symbiotic species, may act as a "crest" to signal romantic interest to potential mates, just be seen as an attractive feature such as bust size in humans, or may act as a manner of communication with intensity and wavelength varying to apply subtext in the same manner as human body language.
It could also have been engineered in as a way for them to interact with thier suit systems, with the glow providing backlighting so that cameras in the suit can pick up eye possition more easily.
If so, the glow may be in a wavelength that quarians simply can't percieve.

All reasonable and logical explanations for Quarians' eyes to have any sort of glow :happy:


@xentar- I don't know... your theory on what the brightness of the eyes is caused by would be a good one if the positioning wouldn't be so completely fixed. The glow of the eyes is in a set location, not as dots going around the glass part like the manner in which light normally would reflect off of glass. To clarify, if the eye glow was a mere reflection, the reflected light would be in different places on the glass, different positions depending on camera angle, as light bends; but its not moving around in camera angles of Tali or other Quarians. The glow is in a fixed position, showing us exactly where the eyes are and proving that the glow isn't from a reflection but from the eyes themselves. Now whether the eye glow is biological or due to cybernetic enhancements I just don't know.

I don't know, as far as I have seen, the glare moves really noticeably with the face, so, I didn't even know people thought it was some sort of internal glow until I came to the forums.

[Slurms McKenzie]

@T. Attwood

AAARRRGGGH! What the HELL is that thing?

[T.Attwood]

Just something I knocked together using foam rubber and porcupine spines, to illustrate some of the ideas knocking around on this forum...

[BurtonSD]

slimgrin wrote...

PureMethodActor wrote...

Hehe, I can't tell whether that is a troll comment or not, slimgrin . I know you somewhat and I've never seen you actually troll (even when we were arguing about certain movies), so I'd REALLY like to see a quote on this matter, whenever you can find it.

I'm trolling.

Actually, I like Tali and I think Bioware's art team has the chops and the talent to show us her face. 

Awww man you got my hopes up. I was going to call my friend to drop the bomb on him too as he's a huuuuge Tali fan.

[Aedan_Cousland]

I think Bioware should avoid making them bald, simply because it has been done so many times already in the universe: Drell, Krogan, Turians, Asari, Salarians, ect. And hair combined with the Quarians relatively human-looking bone structure, would just make them look like human females. The solution I think is to give them some sort of protective covering on their heads that would perform the same biological function that human hair does.

It's good to see some people thinking outside the box. While I mentioned feathers, I also really like the idea of quills.