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[Parion]

xentar wrote...
I don't know, as far as I have seen, the glare moves really noticeably with the face, so, I didn't even know people thought it was some sort of internal glow until I came to the forums.

The funny thing is it never occured to me that it wasn't her eyes until coming here
I honestly don't understand the problem with having them glow naturally. There are enough reasons beyond the obviously practical, assuming it isn't simply a byproduct of the quarian metabolism (all thier organs glow), and we have no knowledge of the quarian internal structure.

Sure, no known creature has glowing eyes, but they're aliens. It's not that big a leap to assume that a creature with glowing eyes would have evolved visual organs that compensate for the glow.

[Siansonea]

I still think glowing eyes is rather silly, unless quarians have a visual range in ultraviolet and shorter wavelengths, rather than the human visual gamut. Even in that case, I would imagine light-emitting eyes would cause visual "noise" to the visual field. Glowing eyes have to make some sort of sense, if it's just because it "looks cool" and it's not explained, I'm going to find it silly, that's just the way I look at things.

As for feathers, quills, etc., I don't necessarily object to them, but I'd like to see something that is more alien. Perhaps hair-like structures that are more like fingernails—i.e. flat ribbons, but less rigid and growing out of the scalp in a pattern roughly analogous to a human scalp. It would be cool if it was primarily the crown section of the head that is covered with these "ribbons" which could move and sway like hair, with the sides of the skull covered with color striations that fade into the ribbons. There could even be patches of shorter ribbons on the shoulders or something, and perhaps there is a bit of muscular control over them, like the way cockatiels and similar birds can wiggle their crest feathers and such. Obviously the design would have to be pretty spot-on, there's potential for this idea to create a "Medusa" effect if the ribbons are too unruly.

Modifié par Siansonea II, 23 juin 2011 - 10:08 .

[78stonewobble]

Siansonea II wrote...

I still think glowing eyes is rather silly, unless quarians have a visual range in ultraviolet and shorter wavelengths, rather than the human visual gamut. Even in that case, I would imagine light-emitting eyes would cause visual "noise" to the visual field. Glowing eyes have to make some sort of sense, if it's just because it "looks cool" and it's not explained, I'm going to find it silly, that's just the way I look at things.

As for feathers, quills, etc., I don't necessarily object to them, but I'd like to see something that is more alien. Perhaps hair-like structures that are more like fingernails—i.e. flat ribbons, but less rigid and growing out of the scalp in a pattern roughly analogous to a human scalp. It would be cool if it was primarily the crown section of the head that is covered with these "ribbons" which could move and sway like hair, with the sides of the skull covered with color striations that fade into the ribbons. There could even be patches of shorter ribbons on the shoulders or something, and perhaps there is a bit of muscular control over them, like the way cockatiels and similar birds can wiggle their crest feathers and such. Obviously the design would have to be pretty spot-on, there's potential for this idea to create a "Medusa" effect if the ribbons are too unruly.

Perhaps they aren't the eyes? 

Or if they're eyes they only glow due to being in a somewhat dark area (inside mask). They glow faintly normally to emit just enough for their low light level sensory organs (visual receptors) to function.

But you're right though that glowing eyes doesn't really make sense.

[Nashiktal]

Didn't they have an orange sun? Lucky bastards.

[Aedan_Cousland]

One way around the glowing eyes is to explain it away as 'eye shine.'

If you've ever been out in the wilderness for example, and shone a flashlight on a wild animal, they're eyes will often look like they are glowing if they are looking at you. This is because their eyes have specialized tissue behind or sometimes in their retinas that reflects light to aid with night vision. You often get the same effect with domestic dogs or cats if they are looking at you from a dark room.

Otherwise they'll need some sort of convicing description in the Quarian biology lore as to why they have 'glowing eyes,' beyond just that it looks cool or alien.

Whatever they do, the unmasked Quarians shouldn't have human looking eyes.

Modifié par Aedan_Cousland, 24 juin 2011 - 01:04 .

[AdmiralCheez]

One requirement:

Do not make her too human.

That is all.

[kambalaname]

I think her face will be dark blue and paterned like a nightcrawlers face from xmen2 with glowing eyes or white transparent alien jellyfish skin ,it will emphesizeher her weak immune system and of course glowing eyes
Also her face must look like a humman because only one race look like a human is asari and other are frogs or dinosaurs
and note that it would be stupid if the human will be the only race with hair
P.s. i hope she will not be ugly it would be a epic fail because she is so popular

Modifié par kambalaname, 24 juin 2011 - 09:20 .

[KainrycKarr]

I'd like her to be as alien as possible, while still remaining visually attractive.

[ReallyRue]

kambalaname wrote...

I think her face will be dark blue and paterned like a nightcrawlers face from xmen2 with glowing eyes or white transparent alien jellyfish skin ,it will emphesizeher her weak immune system and of course glowing eyes
Also her face must look like a humman because only one race look like a human is asari and other are frogs or dinosaurs
and note that it would be stupid if the human will be the only race with hair
P.s. i hope she will not be ugly it would be a epic fail because she is so popular

Personally I think it would be good. Make the aliens jealous.

[Homebound]

i hope tali has hair, just because none of the other races have hair.

[Jake71887]

Hellbound555 wrote...

i hope tali has hair, just because none of the other races have hair.

Elcor do, and the volus may. 

[MichaelXC]

They could just go and show another quarian's face but still keep Tali's face covered. That way we get an idea of what a quarian looks like but also leaves room for interpretation/imagination?

Modifié par MichaelXC, 06 juillet 2011 - 09:19 .

[GBCameron]

I don't think it should be too flashy or jaw dropping...

Hair: I can't quite imagine what the hair would be like, but i dont think it should be human hair and I dont think bald is a good option either :/

Eyes: I definitely think they should be glowing...not like spewing out light, but just a soft white glow (no pupils)

Skin: Definitely a dull skin tone like a dark blue-grey (very subtle blue)

Cybernetics: Can't say if i think it should be visible on the face, but maybe a circuit path in just the right place

Overall, I think Tali's face should be very plain with subtle details, and for the most part should look humanoid. I think it should have a dark theme/tone to contrast with her peppy voice.
And that's my opinion!
P.S.: It better not be like the picture on the first page of comments!!!

[S.A.K]

Hellbound555 wrote...

i hope tali has hair, just because none of the other races have hair.

Agree on that one.

[Sierra Crysis]

Orion1836 wrote...


This look combines physical aspects we already know exist in the galaxy: three-digit hands and feet, as seen in multiple species, head fringes like those on Turians and Asari, and facial structure like that seen in Humans and Asari. If the Protheans did actively seed races, it would make sense that they would share certain characteristics. Calisto's design makes sense and is simultaneously both familiar and alien - very fitting for Tali. If BioWare's final product looks anything like this, I will be one very happy gamer.

I'm gonna say I like this look too, but with some modifications, I think the eyes' sclera should probably be black to contrast the vivid irises with preferably a second pair of eyelids that cross horizontally, which makes sense when it comes to protecting their eyes, a prime gateway for introducing bacteria into the body. I really like the hair model on the quarian in that photo, and would keep it save for the eyebrows. I think they should probably be tightly clustered, short quills, almost like you see on the predator species in the movies. The skin color should naturally be something a little less frilly for the sake of the species, preferrably something neutral like gray and look clammy and wet in my opinion (Whether it comes naturally or is a side-effect of staying in their suit.). The ears should be a little less like human ears and more like a protruding whirl of skin that's almost like the human ear but without the extended dish cartilage. Finally I saw some cybernetic indentures almost akin to the Asari tattoos on some of the other fan art that I would probably include onto that picture as well.

Additionally, I think the context of Tali showing you her face should be in a terribly dramatic moment, like that she gets a rupture in her suit and can possibly die; as in her giving you a let me look at you without my mask moment. Other then that, I suppose LI's should get to see her at another point in the game in a less dire situation.

Otherwise, they could just show some quarian that's dying or whatever without his mask and let us imagine Tali from that build.

Modifié par Sierra Crysis, 12 juillet 2011 - 03:06 .

[MegaBadExample]

I like those looks....but Tali needs hair.

[Sshodan]

I certainly hope that she would look much more alien than the picture above - it is basically a human face with contacts and makeup, I would be really disappointed if the big mystery of quarians is that they look like purple golden eyed humans.
I'd go for lack of eyebrows, instead some skin marking on the forehead, completely white glowing eyes with no pupils or irises, very pale grayish skin (no sunshine for generations, any pigment it had should be extinct by now), differently shaped nose, maybe with 3 or 4 nostrils and mouth with no lips. I'd although give them non human teeth - either add some fang like teeth or a dinosaur style "chewing ridge".
The combo can still look aestetically pleasing, but woun't look like girl-next-door type in helmet.
And on a subject of hair - realistically there will be no much hair after generations of wearing helmets. Some fuzz ad best as a genetic remnant - hair is an environment protection mechanism, which is rendered useless by helmets.

Modifié par Sshodan, 12 juillet 2011 - 03:27 .

[darkside927]

I want to see either:

1. Based on Paragon choices in ME2, the Quarians and Geth work together to stop the Reapers and live together on the Quarian's homeworld, thus resulting in the Quarians being able to take their helmets off.

2. Based on Renegade choices in ME2, the galaxy gives up all hope and the Quarians take off their helmets either for religious purposes (like a rapture like thing?) or Tali shows Shepard her face before everyone dies.

Not that I would want the later though...

[Orion1836]

Sshodan wrote...
I'd go for lack of eyebrows, instead some skin marking on the forehead, completely white glowing eyes with no pupils or irises, very pale grayish skin (no sunshine for generations, any pigment it had should be extinct by now), differently shaped nose, maybe with 3 or 4 nostrils and mouth with no lips. I'd although give them non human teeth - either add some fang like teeth or a dinosaur style "chewing ridge".
The combo can still look aestetically pleasing, but woun't look like girl-next-door type in helmet.
And on a subject of hair - realistically there will be no much hair after generations of wearing helmets. Some fuzz ad best as a genetic remnant - hair is an environment protection mechanism, which is rendered useless by helmets.

Eyebrows are actually one thing we can probably count on - I don't have my screenshots on this computer, but there are quite a few in-game photos where you can see eyebrows through Tali's mask. It's not a sure thing, but facial hair might also suggest regular hair as well... though I'm sure Quarians keep it short for hygenic reasons.

[Sshodan]

@ Orion1836
I'm not saying that the devs will go with biology, but if they do hair will be the first to go - it normal environment we need hair mostly for thermo regulation, even humans send to get less hairy in 3-4 generations in environments that require less protection. Quarians how lived for many generations in environment suits don't need them at all. So logically I don't see anything more than some fuzz even if they once had hair.
For aestetical purposes I'd replace eyebrows with some facial markings and skin patterns - it can give a "normal feeling" impression without resorting to such human trail as eyebrows.
As for hair I'd prefer something akin to a shorter version of Sara Kerrigan "haircut", again something more familiar but no actual hair.
As for "count on" I don't think that current placeholder under the helmet is any indication of anything - it's just a recolored human face for the helmet not to look to weird.

Modifié par Sshodan, 14 juillet 2011 - 09:13 .

[Squidbreath]

. (double post)

Modifié par Squidbreath, 14 juillet 2011 - 02:45 .

[Squidbreath]

Always wondered about the glowing eyes. Could it be glowing bacteria or Cybernetic ones like TIM's?

Also, what if there were horn-like structures in place of hair?

Runescape example:(lol)

Sorta like that, but with a different amount of pointy bits, and smaller.

And what if Tali didn't have a face? And it's just a peculiarly shaped dark blob -mass with light spots for eyes?

Modifié par Squidbreath, 14 juillet 2011 - 02:47 .