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#201
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Ophiskc wrote...

This thread is pointless and open for people who just like to bash Liara


Well, they have to have someplace to commune. Image IPB

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ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Wow really? So if Garrus was suddenly in ME3 to become a peace loving hippy who thinks that violence is never the answer and that the law always works than clearly he hasn't been rewritten as a character I just can't read between the lines.

It sounds like no matter what Bioware did with Liara's character you would have seen it as good writting how someone can look at a character that had every aspect of what made her who she was and turn it upside down is not a rewritten is beyond me.



You have to read between the lines during the first two conversations on Ilium. The last conversation and LOTSB - it's more than obvious that the old Liara is still there.

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Just because she becomes a squaddie, it doesn't mean she won't still be doing her Shadow Broker thing. She might have Feron helping her, or maybe she was forced to be on the move by an attack from Cerberus.

I always assumed that she'd be helping us get info in ME3. I was a little surprised to see she'd be a squaddie. I'm still half-thinking that she's only going to be temporary during parts of the game.

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 Color me stupid, but I hought the title was supposed to read: "Liara's lack of depth which is a whole another scenario. Anyone care to get into it? (I kid, I kid!) 

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Saphra Deden wrote...
Yeah, the Protheans may be relevant and
Liara may be too as a consequence, but this will mean abandoning that
whole Shadow Broker plot-line which means the entire thing was just
filler
.


Wow! you can see into the future now!, maybe you should ask Bioware for a job because you`re so incredible knowledge in character development  and story writing

Seriously, every post i read from u is so full of unintelligent statements that is hard to believe someone can really write those things and really believe them.
Every Liara thread is an open door for you to spread your hate about the  character. Would be better you stay more focus in the Tali threads to speak why she should be the ruler of the universe Quarians, because thats the most logical thing Bioware should do.

From now on i´ll totally jump your troll posts, including whatever dumb answer u come up with

Modifié par Ophiskc, 03 juillet 2011 - 08:54 .


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Saphra Deden wrote...

Yeah, the Protheans may be relevant and Liara may be too as a consequence, but this will mean abandoning that whole Shadow Broker plot-line which means the entire thing was just filler.


You obviously missed a lot of interviews for ME3, not to mention E3.... Not to mention you must have played mass effect 2 with your mind so closed a germ wouldnt be able to get through to you. 

P.s  Please do not open your mouth, you clearly have absolutely NO idea how complex writing works, or any GOOD writing for that matter. You smell of "casual gamer" billions of miles away. Not to mention you probably been playing RPGs for a very short period of time. I would guess 2006, judging by the way you contradict an opinion. Yes, this is a personal attack against you.

Im sorry if Im rude and seem like a total jerk. But the things you say and how you believe you are correct and Im stupid I had no choice but to point out how you have no idea of anything good. 

A quote from a song comes to mind " If ya love me then, thank you! If you hate me then, fk you" Not directed at you, I just love that song.

And now for a more polite responce : Please get some experience how RPGS work, then study extensivly(spelling I know) how GOOD writing works. Then watch the exclusive ME3 interviews, then come back here and appologise for claiming LotSB is just a filler and for all the other crap you spew out of your mouth..err..keyboard.. nevermind. HAve a nice day good sir.:sick:

Modifié par ZeroCrewX, 03 juillet 2011 - 08:54 .


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Ophiskc wrote...

Wow! you can see into the future now!, maybe you should ask Bioware for a job because you`re so incredible knowledge in character development  and story writing


Hey, I'd be down with that. I wonder how much the writers make? 'course I either need to be able to work from home or they have to pay my moving expenses.


Ophiskc wrote...

Every Liara thread is an open door for you to spread your hate about the  character. Would be better you stay more focus in the Tali threads to speak why she should be the ruler of the universe Quarians, because thats the most logical thing Bioware should do.


Daro'Xen would be a sexy ruler of the universe.

(incidentally, I am passionate about this topic because I hate bad writing, not because I hate Liara)

Ophiskc wrote...

From now on i´ll totally jump your troll posts, including whatever dumb answer u come up with


Let the games begin.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Yeah, the Protheans may be relevant and Liara may be too as a consequence, but this will mean abandoning that whole Shadow Broker plot-line which means the entire thing was just filler.


I thought that was the whole point of the ME2 DLCs.
I doubt she will be the SB forever, but I would never think that the information she gathers between ME2 and ME3 will be pointless.

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ZeroCrewX wrote...

You obviously missed a lot of interviews for ME3, not to mention E3.... Not to mention you must have played mass effect 2 with your mind so closed a germ wouldnt be able to get through to you.


By all means please tell me what I missed. I'm open to crticism and I'm willing to change my positioin if I am proven wrong.

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kumquats wrote...


I thought that was the whole point of the ME2 DLCs.


That may very well be the case but it is still bad writing.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

kumquats wrote...


I thought that was the whole point of the ME2 DLCs.


That may very well be the case but it is still bad writing.


LotSB is like a rescue mission for the character. There would have been no point or reason for Illium Liara to be in ME3 at all.
I blame ME Redemption for this.

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The old SB had data on the Protheans, Liara is going to look into that when she has the time. Even if she has to leave the base because of Cerberus, Liara can somehow move her network to a computer on the Normandy.

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Mr.House wrote...

The old SB had data on the Protheans, Liara is going to look into that when she has the time. Even if she has to leave the base because of Cerberus, Liara can somehow move her network to a computer on the Normandy.


I guess being the Shadow Broker is a part time job.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

The old SB had data on the Protheans, Liara is going to look into that when she has the time. Even if she has to leave the base because of Cerberus, Liara can somehow move her network to a computer on the Normandy.


I guess being the Shadow Broker is a part time job.

*headdesk* Liara is not going to stay in a base when Cerberus knows the location of it and is gunning for Shepard. The point is Liara has a network she can use to help Shepard in this fight with information. It's not a part time job, you want to beleivet hat so you can continue your Liara hatred. Liara can fight with Shepard and still work as the SB to help Shepard.

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Mr.House wrote...

*headdesk* Liara is not going to stay in a base when Cerberus knows the location of it and is gunning for Shepard.


So if she can't be the Shadow Broker anymore then that whole plot-line was pointless filler... (redundant?)

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Saphra Deden wrote...

ZeroCrewX wrote...

You obviously missed a lot of interviews for ME3, not to mention E3.... Not to mention you must have played mass effect 2 with your mind so closed a germ wouldnt be able to get through to you.


By all means please tell me what I missed. I'm open to crticism and I'm willing to change my positioin if I am proven wrong.



I have no idea where you can watch those replays from E3.. I watched them live from gamespot and at the same time from BiowareTV.. Pay attention to what they're saying then come back and appologise. 

I will NOT guide your hand like a blind man to prove a point. You have already proven me you're not worth the trouble. So you have 2 choices :
a) You suck it up, therefore accepting my rulings.
B) you do some fkin research (like you should have done before opening your mouth in the first place)

Those said, I will not be monitoring this thread, honestly it's a total waste of my time trying to convice close minded people to THINK and LISTEN and RESEARCH instead of spewing nonsence. Thank god for universities pushing students like me to do PROPER research.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

*headdesk* Liara is not going to stay in a base when Cerberus knows the location of it and is gunning for Shepard.


So if she can't be the Shadow Broker anymore then that whole plot-line was pointless filler... (redundant?)


Funny how you quote just a piece of his post. She CAN be the shadow broker. Just switch bases. The shadow broker network was basically one computer, don't you think she can easily move that to oh I dont know.. THE NORMANDY?!

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

*headdesk* Liara is not going to stay in a base when Cerberus knows the location of it and is gunning for Shepard.


So if she can't be the Shadow Broker anymore then that whole plot-line was pointless filler... (redundant?)

She does not need that ship to be the SB. she can move the network onto a computer on the Normandy. It's not rocket science and LotSB was not a filler. It's not complex.

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ZeroCrewX wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

*headdesk* Liara is not going to stay in a base when Cerberus knows the location of it and is gunning for Shepard.


So if she can't be the Shadow Broker anymore then that whole plot-line was pointless filler... (redundant?)


Funny how you quote just a piece of his post. She CAN be the shadow broker. Just switch bases. The shadow broker network was basically one computer, don't you think she can easily move that to oh I dont know.. THE NORMANDY?!

Cleary Liara is a moron and can't do that *rollseyes*

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Mr.House wrote...


She does not need that ship to be the SB. she can move the network onto a computer on the Normandy. It's not rocket science and LotSB was not a filler. It's not complex.


Being the Shadow Broker is a part time job?

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Mr.House wrote...


She does not need that ship to be the SB. she can move the network onto a computer on the Normandy. It's not rocket science and LotSB was not a filler. It's not complex.


Being the Shadow Broker is a part time job?

How is moving the network to a safer place being a part time job?:?

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If she has time to wander around on missions its a part time job.

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Mr.House wrote...

How is moving the network to a safer place being a part time job?:?


'cause when she's not doing the Shadow Broker thing she's doing ground missions with Shepard. So I guess being the Shadow Broker isn't all that time consuming. That Yahg must have had a lot of free time.

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HogarthHughes 3 wrote...

If she has time to wander around on missions its a part time job.

If said information from the network helps Shepard, LotSB was not a filler, and you can leave her on the ship if you want. No one is pointing a gun to your head forcing you to bring her with you.

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Yeah yeah, I like Liara anyways. I'm not on Saphra's side when it comes to whether or not Liara is a mess of a character. Just thought I'd rudely butt in and respond to the last thing posted. I doubt she'll be the Shadow Broker anymore if she is doing missions with Shepard, unless perhaps Feron takes over in her absence. (assuming the Shadow Broker ship isn't destroyed)

Modifié par HogarthHughes 3, 03 juillet 2011 - 09:33 .