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[TopcatPlayer]

When you play ME2 on PS3 using the comic to start off with some backstory and main mandatory choices from ME1 it records you as having done a half assed job at everything else in the game, namely the side missions.

As i hear, ME3 will pool all your decisions, big and small, and give you content accordingly. But if non of the ME1 side missions appear to be done then will we be missing out on sequences and not getting a full experience of ME3? I'm worried as i played the XBOX version of ME1 and remade my character on PS3 for ME2 and filled in the blanks but found characters i thought were alive turned out to have died or just simply not appeared due to Shepard's negligence. I'd love if they could include some kind of DLC to add the nitty gritty details of whether side missions were done or not. I just dont want to miss out on awesome content that i know you guys at Bioware work very hard to make. Also it'd be nice to see Conrad Verner on the PS3 (broken record much i know).

ME3's a fair ways off yet so hopefuly something can be done between now and then.

[The Twilight God]

TopcatPlayer wrote...

When you play ME2 on PS3 using the comic to start off with some backstory and main mandatory choices from ME1 it records you as having done a half assed job at everything else in the game, namely the side missions.

Yup, you get only the main choices.  What's your point?

Oh, and enjoy all the free DLC.

[Eurhetemec]

Here's the thing, TopCat. BioWare aren't morons. I mean, they make mistakes, but they're not stupid.

They didn't design the ME1 comic until ME3 was well into production. Thus I think it's safe to say that if a decision isn't in the ME1 comic, it probably won't *actually* matter in ME3, and probably won't have significant content attached to it.

I do think it's damn weird that the ME1 comic skips Feros ENTIRELY though lol. So much for that plot thread, eh?

[Paul Sedgmore]

TopcatPlayer wrote...

When you play ME2 on PS3 using the comic to start off with some backstory and main mandatory choices from ME1 it records you as having done a half assed job at everything else in the game, namely the side missions.

As i hear, ME3 will pool all your decisions, big and small, and give you content accordingly. But if non of the ME1 side missions appear to be done then will we be missing out on sequences and not getting a full experience of ME3? I'm worried as i played the XBOX version of ME1 and remade my character on PS3 for ME2 and filled in the blanks but found characters i thought were alive turned out to have died or just simply not appeared due to Shepard's negligence. I'd love if they could include some kind of DLC to add the nitty gritty details of whether side missions were done or not. I just dont want to miss out on awesome content that i know you guys at Bioware work very hard to make. Also it'd be nice to see Conrad Verner on the PS3 (broken record much i know).

ME3's a fair ways off yet so hopefuly something can be done between now and then.

Technically PS3 users didn't get the "full" ME2 experience either but the stuff they missed out on was minor stuff that didn't impact the main story at all and I can't see this changing for ME3. Genesis lets you choose the main story choices from the game that is unavailable on the platform so you still have all of the choices that make any real difference to the story.

[Kronner]

Of course it won't. You can't expect a comic to replace Mass Effect (1).

[Paul Sedgmore]

Eurhetemec wrote...

I do think it's damn weird that the ME1 comic skips Feros ENTIRELY though lol. So much for that plot thread, eh?

I can't see Feros playing any real role in fighting the Reapers as the only real choice in the mission is how you deal with the colonists. The Thorian research still exists and if that plays a part they would just have to explain it to those playing with Genesis save files.

Modifié par Paul Sedgmore, 21 juin 2011 - 07:01 .

[Smeelia]

It'll be a shame if PS3 users miss out on too much (come on, give them Conrad at least, whether they like it or not) but at the same time it'd be a shame if all those decisions from ME1 just didn't matter for those that played it.

I'm not sure how I feel about it overall, I think it's just one of those things that I'll have to wait and see how it works out.

Modifié par Smeelia, 21 juin 2011 - 07:10 .

[ladyvader]

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

TopcatPlayer wrote...

When you play ME2 on PS3 using the comic to start off with some backstory and main mandatory choices from ME1 it records you as having done a half assed job at everything else in the game, namely the side missions.

As i hear, ME3 will pool all your decisions, big and small, and give you content accordingly. But if non of the ME1 side missions appear to be done then will we be missing out on sequences and not getting a full experience of ME3? I'm worried as i played the XBOX version of ME1 and remade my character on PS3 for ME2 and filled in the blanks but found characters i thought were alive turned out to have died or just simply not appeared due to Shepard's negligence. I'd love if they could include some kind of DLC to add the nitty gritty details of whether side missions were done or not. I just dont want to miss out on awesome content that i know you guys at Bioware work very hard to make. Also it'd be nice to see Conrad Verner on the PS3 (broken record much i know).

ME3's a fair ways off yet so hopefuly something can be done between now and then.

Technically PS3 users didn't get the "full" ME2 experience either but the stuff they missed out on was minor stuff that didn't impact the main story at all and I can't see this changing for ME3. Genesis lets you choose the main story choices from the game that is unavailable on the platform so you still have all of the choices that make any real difference to the story.

This is quite true.  The minor stuff is fun to do and it's too bad the PS3 players don't get to play the little things.  I enjoyed talking to Gianna Parasini again.   Same with Shiala.  

[outlaw1109]

It is kind of sad, in a way, because it's like they're treating PS3 users like second-class citizens. If they're offering the game across all platforms, they should give them the same experience that everyone else gets. The comic is a great idea, but it needs to be all inclusive. Not everything in ME1 mattered to the plot, but it's those little things that sends ripples across the galaxy.

[Daiyus]

I know what you mean. I'm in exactly the same position. I played both ME1 and ME2 on the Xbox 360, then converted to PS3 (the game I was keeping the 360 for was ME, and it was announced on PS3 so I finally ditched the 360). I know the ins and outs of both games, including most of the side missions and their effects in ME2. I always carried a save from ME1, so some of those things became standard in my game (like Gianna Parisini on Illium), and now on my PS3 run they aren't there. It's quite jarring.

I appreciate the ME1 comic, and the ability to adjust most of the main points, but for advanced users it would have been nice to have a list (i.e. Not in comic form, literally a checklist like the options screen) of all the outcomes, such as "Did you give Tali the Geth data? Yes/No", or "Did you give Dr Salion a chance to surrender? Yes/No", etc.

Modifié par Daiyus, 21 juin 2011 - 07:30 .

[Mister Mida]

Not trying to be rude here, but what did you expect? If Bioware had to take everything in ME (1) into account for the Genesis comic, people no doubt would **** that it's too long and that they barely see anything of it in the game.

Want my advice? Either go back to playing it on XBox 360 or start on the PC. As Kronner has already said, a comic can't replace an entire game.

[candidate88766]

You won't get the 'full' trilogy experience because, without wanting to be rude, you didn't pay for it. The reasons may have been beyond your control - Microsoft won't give up the rights to ME1 - but that doesn't change the fact that you didn't buy ME1. It may seem harsh, but why should things from ME1 affect your game if you didn't buy it? I'm not going to say you should've bought it on PC or bought an Xbox because that may be unreasonable. That doesn't change that fact that you won't get the full effects of the trilogy because you didn't buy the full trilogy.

[SilentNukee]

I'm worried for the opposite reason, I hope because of PS3 users, our ME3 experience won't be dumbed down because they couldn't play ME1...Such as, getting the prothean artifact from the consort and putting it inside the ruin, etc...(Which did transfer into ME2 but nothing was done about it so guessing it will transfer in ME3?) Those ME1 side-missions felt more like a chore to me, but I always feel compelled to do them...So I hope we didn't do them all for nothing.

Modifié par SilentNukee, 21 juin 2011 - 08:14 .

[aftohsix]

SilentNukee wrote...

I'm worried for the opposite reason, I hope because of PS3 users, our ME3 experience won't be dumbed down because they couldn't play ME1...Such as, getting the prothean artifact from the consort and putting it inside the ruin, etc...(Which did transfer into ME2 but nothing was done about it so guessing it will transfer in ME3?)

I've seen this argument too many times and I honestly had thought it had disappeared.

It won't happen.  If anything PS3 users (such as myself) may miss out on some content.  Bioware isn't going to screw 2/3 of the platforms the game is on.  I doubt they'll even screw 1/3.

[Acerlux]

Eurhetemec wrote...
I do think it's damn weird that the ME1 comic skips Feros ENTIRELY though lol. So much for that plot thread, eh?

Feros? If I remember correctly, it doesn't even mention the Geth, IE the main enemy faction in the game. Minor details I guess.

[AngelicMachinery]

I'm sorry PS3 users, you really do deserve the whole game but you'll never get it. I don't care how much free DLC is tossed your way, your being given the short end of the stick.

[CannonO]

That is why I will play ME3 on 360 first and maybe PS3 some other time. I don't like when decisions are made without me. Especially big ones.

[SilentNukee]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

I'm sorry PS3 users, you really do deserve the whole game but you'll never get it. I don't care how much free DLC is tossed your way, your being given the short end of the stick.

^ This...I wish MS weren't such jerks.

[Raxxman]

If it stays true to ME2s tibids, the minor choices will be superfical at best, and you wouldn't be able to appreicate them based on how minor they are.

Like tombs ranting at you for being with cerberus, only happens in an email, and only if you talk him down from the situation he's in.

[Cainne Chapel]

Yeah getting used to the side content not being there in ME2 was a bit of a smack upside the head.

Missing the little dialogues and side characters did make the universe feel....emptier.

Better than NOT having an import or comic at all though, so at least be happy you're not stuck with the default choices llike most PC and 360 players were up until a month ago.

[JayhartRIC]

I don't know why people say ps3 got all dlc for free when the game came out at $60 a year after launch. You could buy the game on 360 and all the dlc for cheaper than that.

[Eurhetemec]

SilentNukee wrote...

Those ME1 side-missions felt more like a chore to me, but I always feel compelled to do them...So I hope we didn't do them all for nothing.

I find this sort of logic really odd.

So, you're playing a computer game, right? For fun, right? Because that's why you play a computer game.

So, there's a totally unnecessary sidequest. You don't enjoy it at all.

Why do you do it at all?

Further, if you do it for completeness sake, why do you expect a special reward for it?

There's another thread where a guy hated Insanity, but forced himself through it despite hating it, and thinks he should basically get a medal in ME3 for completing ME2 on Insanity. No. Guys, that's not how it works. You don't deserve a special reward for doing something you didn't enjoy. You deserve to get a clue, and realize that you play games for fun, and when they're not fun - you shouldn't play them!

God if more people realized this, WoW would be down to like half as many players, I swear. Most people playing that game seem to hate nine minutes out of ten, but do it anyway.

This would be like me going around scanning every bit of minerals from every single planet in ME2, then expecting a special reward in ME3 because I really hated it (and god I would hate that). No-one deserves awards for doing things they hate in COMPUTER GAMES. Or I wanted a medal for watching all of Star Wars Episodes 1-3 or something.

[nitrog100]

That's what you get for playing PS3. You get some amazing franchises and lose out on some of the 360 stuff.

[SilentNukee]

Eurhetemec wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...

Those ME1 side-missions felt more like a chore to me, but I always feel compelled to do them...So I hope we didn't do them all for nothing.

I find this sort of logic really odd.

So, you're playing a computer game, right? For fun, right? Because that's why you play a computer game.

So, there's a totally unnecessary sidequest. You don't enjoy it at all.

Why do you do it at all?

Because of the possibility that the side-mission will affect us in the future. (Specifically, in ME3.) When I play ME3 for the first time and notice that most side-missions aren't actually involved in any way, then yes, I will skip them. Until then, I plan on doing them.

I quit WoW 3 months ago exactly because of that.