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[TopcatPlayer]

candidate88766 wrote...

You won't get the 'full' trilogy experience because, without wanting to be rude, you didn't pay for it. The reasons may have been beyond your control - Microsoft won't give up the rights to ME1 - but that doesn't change the fact that you didn't buy ME1. It may seem harsh, but why should things from ME1 affect your game if you didn't buy it? I'm not going to say you should've bought it on PC or bought an Xbox because that may be unreasonable. That doesn't change that fact that you won't get the full effects of the trilogy because you didn't buy the full trilogy.

but i did buy ME1, played it on my friend's XBOX and bought the 2nd game for PS3 which i own. I like the idea of a checklist, make it optional so the people who just want a quick plot and run and gun gameplay can skip it. Me? I want everything, call me greedy, but Bioware makes gr8 stuff, and i feel like i need to play through it twice on both XBOX and PS3. The reason i dont just go out and buy my own XBOX is that 1 game does not a console make. It's really the only reason i would want an xbox. Sounds whiny but it's the little callbacks that make a gr8 sequel/series. I loved getting the msg from the Rachni Queen when playing ME2 on PS3 and hated hearing the space news that 2 yrs ago some disaster happened where every1 died when I KNOW that my ME1 playthrough i kicked ass, saved lives, and did all the sidemissions with a minimum of collateral damage.

[TopcatPlayer]

JukeFrog wrote...

Not trying to be the bad guy here, but those who switched from PC/360 to PS3 can't really complain about missing content. You guys already knew beforehand that those cameos and little details would be missing from the PS3 version. Nobody forced you to buy the PS3 version.

finances did, cant afford a better PC and cant afford buying an XBOX just for one trilogy of games

[Candidate 88766]

TopcatPlayer wrote...

candidate88766 wrote...

You won't get the 'full' trilogy experience because, without wanting to be rude, you didn't pay for it. The reasons may have been beyond your control - Microsoft won't give up the rights to ME1 - but that doesn't change the fact that you didn't buy ME1. It may seem harsh, but why should things from ME1 affect your game if you didn't buy it? I'm not going to say you should've bought it on PC or bought an Xbox because that may be unreasonable. That doesn't change that fact that you won't get the full effects of the trilogy because you didn't buy the full trilogy.

but i did buy ME1, played it on my friend's XBOX and bought the 2nd game for PS3 which i own. I like the idea of a checklist, make it optional so the people who just want a quick plot and run and gun gameplay can skip it. Me? I want everything, call me greedy, but Bioware makes gr8 stuff, and i feel like i need to play through it twice on both XBOX and PS3. The reason i dont just go out and buy my own XBOX is that 1 game does not a console make. It's really the only reason i would want an xbox. Sounds whiny but it's the little callbacks that make a gr8 sequel/series. I loved getting the msg from the Rachni Queen when playing ME2 on PS3 and hated hearing the space news that 2 yrs ago some disaster happened where every1 died when I KNOW that my ME1 playthrough i kicked ass, saved lives, and did all the sidemissions with a minimum of collateral damage.

The big choices are almost certainly the only ones that'll actually make a difference - the Rachni Queen, Wrex, the Council - and you have access to all of those in the comic anyway. I'm sure that characters from ME1 may pop up in ME3, but it would be kind of silly if tiny decisions had massive impacts on the story. Stuff in ME2 is far more likely to have an impact, because you make a lot more decisions in ME2 than you did in ME1.

Through no fault of your own, PS3 players will never get the full experience because ME1 doesn't exist on the PS3. You get to make all the choices that will actually matter. If you want to get a genuine, 100% experience of Mass Effect you'd need to get it on PC - while Bioware can allow you to choose most of the decisions made in ME1, I find that the dialogue choices I made throughout the game defined my character and there is no way to replicate that without actually bringing out ME1 on PS3. I don't imagine ME3 will need a ridiculously powerful computer, and ME1 and ME2 can be picked up for a couple of quid apiece now.

And people can condemn Microsoft for this, but why should they bring out one of their few exclusives on their main competitor's console? Sony would need to do something in return - I'm still hoping for Uncharted to make its way over to the 360.

Also, I don't want to start a flamewar here, but what is it about the PS3 that you like so much? Its a genuine question - I like the 360 because all my friends had them and I wanted to be able to play online with them. Both consoles have great games so I'm just being curious.

Modifié par Candidate 88766, 21 août 2011 - 11:35 .

[TopcatPlayer]

Oblivious wrote...

That's where you're wrong. The 360 is infamous for its red rings of death and terrible warranty while a PC can have any millions of things go wrong, including but not limited to viruses or simply being outdated. I myself switched to a Macbook Pro after my 10-yr old PC got a terrible virus and after my 360 broke for the 5th time I finally got fed up of M$ faulty hardware and switched to PS3.

There are tons of people who no longer own 360s for any number of reasons. Gave it away as a birthday present, dislike paying for online when it should be free, was no longer "cutting edge", or it broke and the warranty won't cover it. The latest reasons I've been hearing is about how M$ is ignoring the hardcore and switching to casual gamers, how after Gears of War the first party support will die, or how they just got tired of having to switch disks.

Alot of people have lost both confidence and interest in Microsoft to provide for their fans and have jumped ship for the same reason that devs who were former Microsoft-supporters and die hards back in 2007 and 2008 are releasing newer, and if the reviews are anything to go by, superior content for Sony's system. Not everything is as black and white as "If you played ME1 on the 360 you can play ME2 and ME3 on it too" or "If you have a PS3 then you've never played ME1 and shouldn't worry about it"

HERE HERE! They should have ported the 1st game, wouldn't have been the 1st time an XBOX exclusive ported to another system after a while. But no, Microsoft had to hold onto it with a deathgrip. Ah well. I'm just hoping that their next game series will bridge the gap between different consoles. Having a universal save system that runs through this site. It's been suggested before and we already have profile uploads through the EA sign in feature, why not our in game decisions? They'd be pretty simple to upload if they can upload every bit of armour and our character stats and portrait, they can certainly upload our decisions. Like you say, sometimes consoles fail on consumers and they move to different ones which dont include the previous game in the series. I'm sure this'll be the next step in the future of uploaded saves.

[TopcatPlayer]

candidate88766 wrote...
Also, I don't want to start a flamewar here, but what is it about the PS3 that you like so much? Its a genuine question - I like the 360 because all my friends had them and I wanted to be able to play online with them. Both consoles have great games so I'm just being curious.

no it's a fair question. The PS3 had more exclusives that i "needed" to buy. The only exclusives i wanted from XBOX at the time were Lost Odyssey and Mass Effect. I also wanted a console that did everything straight out of the box, no need to buy an expensive connection for wireless internet, no need to buy a HD disc drive to play HD movies (having the PS3 double as a bluray player has been nice, 2 birds 1 stone), not needing to buy batteries for my wireless controllers or needing to buy a special cord to plug it into my console just a standard USB that i can use for other devices too does the trick. A lot of my friends had 360 games too, but if i wanted to play multiplayer with them i'd just go over their place and have a LAN party, had fun playing Gears 2 and Guitar Hero multiplayer with them. I grew up with if u want to have a multiplayer session with your friends you actualy get together in the same house, never really got into the ONLINE multiplayer, only recently got into it with more 3rd person games like Uncharted 2/3 and Assasin's Creed Brotherhood. So when Xbox fans bragged about how great XBOX LIVE was i didn't get excited, much rather have the person in the same house so that bragging rights happened in person rather than over a mic. I still prefer that, people have become so wrapped up in tech that they've forgotten what it's like to have people over to game. But yeah, that's my reasons. The RROD kinda scared me off too though i guess, had some real horror stories from my friends.

I'll admit though with all the PS3's power, there are a couple of things that have bugged me over the years
1. Freezing, doesn't happen that much anymore but it used to be a real biatch
2. Loading, one thing i'll say for the XBOX, it's got faster menus

Modifié par TopcatPlayer, 21 août 2011 - 11:30 .

[CMDR Locke]

The only 2 choices from ME1 in ME2 that I miss having switched from PC to PS3 is Conrad...and not having given tali the Geth data.

The Comic allows me to pick my VS, my LI, save/kill Wrex, save/kill Council, and pick the Human Councilor.

[Boiny Bunny]

What would you have Bioware do?

Deliberately cut every singe one of the minor choice impacts from ME1 carrying into ME3, that aren't in the comic?

Release another, more complex comic, that allows you to choose every single decision made in the entirety of ME1? Because that would be a very long comic, exceptionally boring to watch, and well and truly out of the question in terms of cost vs profit.

[Trakarg]

If I recall correctly, you need to blame microsoft for this. Bioware can't really do much.

[Abirn]

Boiny Bunny wrote...

What would you have Bioware do?

Deliberately cut every singe one of the minor choice impacts from ME1 carrying into ME3, that aren't in the comic?

Release another, more complex comic, that allows you to choose every single decision made in the entirety of ME1? Because that would be a very long comic, exceptionally boring to watch, and well and truly out of the question in terms of cost vs profit.

If only there was some way to quickly list choices, possibly followed by some sort of checkbox or selection menu filled with choices without having to design a whole comic thing. 

They already have such a thing out there on the PC version albiet not officially supported by bioware but still, really the time it would take to create a minimal screen for each of the games choices would be insignifigant in the scheme of the overall game.

That said, I play on the far superior PC platform so It doesn't effect me either way.

[Boiny Bunny]

I don't feel that a checklist would do much good for those who haven't actually played the game.

For an example:

A) Killed Helena Blake
Let Helena Blake go
C) Convinced Helena Blake to give up her criminal ways

Without having done the mission, it's much harder to actually make an appropriate decision there.

At any rate, IMO Bioware's so called 'impacts' from nearly every decision made to date are rather pitiful. Most of the ME1 small choices that the PS3 players missed out on were just covered in 3 line emails in ME2.

[Theunsunghero26]

Bioware recently confirmed that Captain Kirrahe would appear in ME3 if he survived in the first. Mordin will comment on this if he is alive or dead. Now, all of my saves in ME2 are imports and on 360, But could any one confirm what his status is if you don't use an import or use the comic (regardless of platform)?