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[Serpieri Nei]

To this date I have completed 12 playthroughs of origins, currently on my 4th playthrough of the Witcher. With a heavily modded DA2, I still can't get past ACT 1 on a second playthrough there is just no incentive to continue playing it but I haven't given up Hope. I leave it to the modders to keep trying to make it a better game.

Modifié par Serpieri Nei, 23 juin 2011 - 02:39 .

[Chromie]

Serpieri Nei wrote...

To this date I have completed 12 playthroughs of origins, currently on my 4th playthrough of the Witcher. With a heavily modded DA2, I still can't get past ACT 1 on a second playthrough there is just no incentive to continue playing it but I haven't given up Hope. I leave it to the modders to keep trying to make it a better game.

Sad because the modders will never be able to make mods as big as in DAO because of lack of toolset. If only we could get a toolset I would gladly install DAII and get to creating or modding.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Yes OP, I experienced the same. I can't bear the idea of playing again anytime soon. THe first RPG to do that to me. But fortunately I was able to move on and the franchise is no longer as important to me as it was before.

I just don't see the point of playing and suffering through it again.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 23 juin 2011 - 03:29 .

[GiggleLooper]

Serpieri Nei wrote...

To this date I have completed 12 playthroughs of origins, currently on my 4th playthrough of the Witcher. With a heavily modded DA2, I still can't get past ACT 1 on a second playthrough there is just no incentive to continue playing it but I haven't given up Hope. I leave it to the modders to keep trying to make it a better game.

You have way too much time on your hands

[Kreid]

I made one 360 warrior playthrough and one PC mage playthrough I started a third rogue playthrough but I can't bring myself to play the game anymore, re-used environments, lifeless Kirkwall, waves, choices that don't really matter etc...

Unless Legacy reveals itself as some awesome awe-striking add on the game will keep getting dust in the shelf.

[Serpieri Nei]

GiggleLooper wrote...

Serpieri Nei wrote...

To this date I have completed 12 playthroughs of origins, currently on my 4th playthrough of the Witcher. With a heavily modded DA2, I still can't get past ACT 1 on a second playthrough there is just no incentive to continue playing it but I haven't given up Hope. I leave it to the modders to keep trying to make it a better game.

You have way too much time on your hands

I'm amazed by those that have over 20 playthroughs done.

Modifié par Serpieri Nei, 23 juin 2011 - 03:36 .

[Frybread76]

Ringo12 wrote...

Serpieri Nei wrote...

To this date I have completed 12 playthroughs of origins, currently on my 4th playthrough of the Witcher. With a heavily modded DA2, I still can't get past ACT 1 on a second playthrough there is just no incentive to continue playing it but I haven't given up Hope. I leave it to the modders to keep trying to make it a better game.

Sad because the modders will never be able to make mods as big as in DAO because of lack of toolset. If only we could get a toolset I would gladly install DAII and get to creating or modding.

I don't understand why Bioware doesn't release a toolset.  (The cynic within me says they don't want to release a toolset because it might decrease sales of DLC.)

[DaiyoukaiGeisha]

Frybread76 wrote...

I don't understand why Bioware doesn't release a toolset.  (The cynic within me says they don't want to release a toolset because it might decrease sales of DLC.)

There is a lot of EA rage already, but I guess I gotta throw another log on the flames. Not releasing the toolset stinks of a purely EA move. I think they don't want to release it so that they can milk the players via "item packs" and other pay-to-use bells and whistles.

Just look at EA's "The Sims" franchise. Thankfully, there is still a toolset available in The Sims 3 but IMHO it's no where near as flexible as The Sims 2 one was. The Sims Exchange is run by EA to get people to use Sim Points to buy items. They also squeeze the life out of the franchise with their neverending "item packs" (excuse me, "stuff packs" *roll eyes*) as well. Much like DA (which has sites like dragonexus) there are still sites that have talented modders making items for free thankfully, but I suspect that EA would like nothing better than to kill the traffic on these sites so that they could turn a profit.
Yes, business is business and I personally love making money. MMmmmm money. But overall I think it's a stupid tactic. EA would be better off selling/licensing a completely fleshed out and supported toolset and focusing on the main games themselves (not item packs) which are the foundations for the mods rather  than doing what they are now.

[Huntress]

OP I understand you, let it rest for a bit, it might help you change the view of game when more DLC comes out, at this time am not sure if even that will make you play it. I don't want to force you to play it.

As for me?

I have played DA2 more than 8 times and still less than DAO, of course DAO have been out longer and is always fun to see old friends, now am playing DAO ( i hope it stop logging me off for once) and I found that getting back to it and play as amel mage is harder and is going to take me even longer that my first mage..DAO mages aren't good for me, I prefer DA2 mages.

I like DA2 and Hawke, is not perfect, has many flaws but yeah, I do like the game.

[JamieCOTC]

I managed to get two playthroughs out of DA2, mostly because in my first Isabella left. Ever since BW patched the game to correct some big bugs I have been wanting to do a third, but just can't do it. I played DA:O ten times w/ three of those being w/ the same character. The combat in DA2 is so tedious and the story so linear that I just get bored. Having to see the same damned cave all the time doesn't help.

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 23 juin 2011 - 07:52 .

[Relshar]

yes I cant play it a second time either, its called "boredom from repetion on maps, items,lack of party banter and customization, and a rubbish storyline. Also the flying enemy npcs that fall from the sky in each and every battle and then explode as you hit them with a dagger.

Witcher2 has some really nice combat moves characters and locations with a compelling storyline. Different kind of play style on the combat though but a far better game.

[lofte_2000]

Whacka wrote...

Repeated environments?
Lack of conversation with your companions?
Not feeling connected with Hawke?

There are many reasons why some people cannot bring themselves to do another playthrough of DA2. I just summed some reasons up that holds true for a large part of the playerbase. Or a small part. I honestly don't have a clue.

Exactly but I've played it 3 times now...only a major DLC or a toolset will make me want to play though it again.
No matter what you do it always ends the same.

Modifié par lofte_2000, 27 juin 2011 - 09:09 .

[PsychoBlonde]

Nerevar-as wrote...

To me, it´s that I find combat tedious: even when I´m winning easily, there comes yet another wave to kill, and that unlike the first playthrough, this time I know where the story is going, and I¨m don´t like it much.

Yeah, I find that I'll usually do additional playthroughs for two reasons:  I want to try out a different character build, or I want to try to get the story to resolve in a different way.  Well, the story in DA2 is going to resolve exactly the same way no matter what I do.  I can't go through and try to save the Qunari prisoners.  I can't grab the Tome of Koslun away from Izzy and set it on fire.  I can't stop Orsino and Meredith from going insane.  And I don't really care to bother with rogue or warrior--I got to mess with both classes via my companions and was forced to learn their tactics and make use of them both.  If I play  a rogue or a warrior, I'll still have to level up a mage and use them tactically.  There's nothing *different* that I want to see.  

That, and it wasn't like I struggled through the game playing a gimp mage on the first run.  I stumbled upon pretty much the optimal offensive mage build right out of the gate, so it's not like I want to go back and suffer through playing a gimpy healer now.  Usually the difficulty of the first playthrough (because I try out a HORRIBLE build) makes me want to play again and do a GOOD build now that I have some clue what I'm doing.

I suppose I could go through and play Hawke as a total jackass, but I don't enjoy doing that so I won't invest 20-some hours in it.

Oh well.

[Sarevok Anchev]

I only played once through it...

[csfteeeer]

i felt the same way, but i'm a little more persistent.

I wish i just stated like that, but i had to play the game 4 times, The first time is the only one i actually enjoyed, the next 3 times were just me trying to squeeze the last inch of fun i could find, cause even then, i was disappointed the first time, but no, second time was a chore with certain parts a enjoyed, third time was very difficult, but i still passed it (i'm not quiter), i gave up with the game for a week or so, then i tried it again, and the hole 4th playthrough, all i wanted to do was to kill myself, i just wanted it to end, when it did, i felt immense JOY, i litterally screamed to the Heavens:
YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
got that damn thing out of my pc, put it in the box, went straight to my Garage, and threw that thing, it is now collecting Dust, and i have no desire of getting it out of there.

The things that i didn't like were how badly implemented some of the narrative was,the companions were mostly annoying (F**k Anders), the combat was fun at first, then it was tedious, the re-sed maps, and that God Awful Art Design.

Because Really, i'd Rather Play NeverWinter Nights SINGLEPLAYER, than Play DA2 Again.

just move on, i say, return to other games (like Dao, or ME2), just go buy new ones *Cough* The Witcher 2*Cough*, wait for other RPGs (Deus Ex, Dark Souls) or wait for the GOTY (Skyrim).

Modifié par csfteeeer, 24 juin 2011 - 08:58 .

[TransientNomad]

On my fifth playthrough now XP. Probably will shelf it when Deus Ex comes out, then go through that game a good 3 - 4 times (if its as good as I am expecting of course). Then Skyrim!

[AFCommando]

the story is the same despite your choices. i beat DAO and ME1/2 at least 6 times each but im pretty much forcing myself to beat the game a 2nd time after months not playing.

its so short and much of the environment is the same.

[Luvinn]

I played through it a second time, but it was a chore. Doing the same environments over and over and over again really kill the desire to play it more than once. Seriously, i would like to of been at the meeting where they thought this was a good idea.

[Redcoat]

It was worse for me; I strugged to finish the game once, and until Dragon Age 2 I never thought that was something I'd ever end up saying about a BioWare game. The High Dragon battle was such an execrable experience that I set the game aside and didn't touch it again for a week. I only forced myself to finish because, A: I paid $59.99 and wanted to get my money's worth, and B: I didn't think I could give an honest opinion of the game without seeing it to the end.

After that, I started a second playthrough as a mage, hoping that, since so much of the game revolves around the Mage/Templar conflict, that being a mage would result in a markedly different experience. Needless to say, it did not.

Modifié par Redcoat, 25 juin 2011 - 12:24 .

[Gunderic]

Well, the game sucks.

[Merilsell]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Yes OP, I experienced the same. I can't bear the idea of playing again anytime soon. THe first RPG to do that to me. But fortunately I was able to move on and the franchise is no longer as important to me as it was before.

I just don't see the point of playing and suffering through it again.

That pretty much sums it up for me as well. I still love DA:O to pieces and to write FF for it, but everything after that...didn't really kept my attention. Hell, I don't even know where my DA2 gaming disc is...and frankly, I don't care.

[erynnar]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

I just finished my first replay of DA2 and it really improved the experience for me. I played Rogue first time round and hated it, as a mage I found it much more fun. I also went into it the second time not expecting it to be Origins and that helped immensely. I still don't grade it highly but having replayed once I can see me replaying a few more times.

It won't match up to my thoughts on Origins but I don't feel as bad about it as I once did. I think the trouble I had with replaying was concern over the repetition but given that I couldn't remember all the quests by the times I got back to it, it actually made the process much easier.

Oh! Me too Fiddle! I played rogue first... and hmmm. But mage was my 2nd and it was much more fun for me too (despite plot holes). I have fond memories of my mage Hawke. Might play her again with the patch.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Just started a second playthrough after a 3 month hiatus from the game. I didn't finish the first playthrough because of bugs, and i lost interest by the time a patch was out.

I gotta say i'm enjoying this second one a lot more than my first one. 1.03 definitely makes combat a hell of a lot less tedious. My Hawke also seems a lot less bipolar this time round.