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[Bocks]

I don't remember if I saw this somewhere else, but imagine if Shepard's mind starts to deteriorate as the story progresses further and further. The Reapers might be indoctrinating Shepard on a great level, and some hints as to that insanity manifesting itself might be the little kid at the start of the ME3 Escape from Earth demo. I don't know about you, but "You can't help me" isn't exactly a very believeable line for a little kid. Either the writers are abandoning realism for emotional power (which I really hope isn't the case, or if it is, I hope it manifests itself only a little) or the Reapers are playing tricks on him.

Don't be surprised if at the end of Mass Effect 3, while on Earth, you start seeing old enemies appearing all around Shepard, who kills them all, one by one.

Only to realise he just killed off his entire ground team.

[TexasToast712]

Its been done in too many games/movies already. I dont like it.

[SamsSneakers]

It's a stale idea.

[Bocks]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Its been done in too many games/movies already. I dont like it.

Such as?

[onelifecrisis]

Bocks wrote...

Don't be surprised if at the end of Mass Effect 3, while on Earth, you start seeing old enemies appearing all around Shepard, who kills them all, one by one.

Only to realise he just killed off his entire ground team.

Actually I think I will be surprised, despite your warning.

[KainrycKarr]

Bocks wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Its been done in too many games/movies already. I dont like it.

Such as?

Dead Space 2.

[Paul Sedgmore]

Bocks wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Its been done in too many games/movies already. I dont like it.

Such as?

Its been done far more in movies but a few games include Alan Wake and Eternal Darkness

[marshalleck]

This thread again?

The kid isn't Shepard's imagination. People watched the whole demo (which we didn't see videos of) and the kid appears again later, interacting with other people. Then he dies.

Modifié par marshalleck, 21 juin 2011 - 11:09 .

[thesilverlinedviking]

DEAD SPACE DID IT

[Bocks]

marshalleck wrote...

This thread again?

The kid isn't Shepard's imagination. People watched the whole demo (which we didn't see videos of) and the kid appears again later, interacting with other people. Then he dies.

See, that's the problem. If the kid simply ran into the shuttle, then it's possible that the Reapers are indoctrinating Shepard. If the kid was grabbed and escorted, talked to and pushed into the shutte, then it's much less likely. However, we don't know if either of these two are right because, as you said, we didn't see the full demo.

[marshalleck]

Bocks wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

This thread again?

The kid isn't Shepard's imagination. People watched the whole demo (which we didn't see videos of) and the kid appears again later, interacting with other people. Then he dies.

See, that's the problem. If the kid simply ran into the shuttle, then it's possible that the Reapers are indoctrinating Shepard. If the kid was grabbed and escorted, talked to and pushed into the shutte, then it's much less likely. However, we don't know if either of these two are right because, as you said, we didn't see the full demo.

The gaming press and people at E3 did see it, and several published articles about it. I suppose you could say they're lying if you really want to hang onto the "Shepard is hallucinating children in air ducts" twist.

Don't get me wrong. I think the idea of Shepard turning into another Saren could have been genius if it developed slowly and almost imperceptibly over the course of three games. But to merely hamfist it into the third episode would not work out so well, I think, and I don't believe that's where Bioware are going. However if you had asked me if I thought a giant Space Terminator would be the end boss of ME2 before that game came out, I would have called you a lunatic. With Mac Walters I suppose anything's possible, and not in a good way.

Modifié par marshalleck, 21 juin 2011 - 11:19 .

[Skirata129]

if they tried to pull this main hero losing his mind crap it would ****** me off. Shep is too stong willed to begin having flashbacks to a difficult childhood or hallucinating in the middle of combat.

Modifié par Skirata129, 21 juin 2011 - 11:18 .

[BloodyTalon]

Over done really, and Shep would have lost their mind before now given things.

Modifié par Talosred, 21 juin 2011 - 11:24 .

[Weak Sauce Hype]

Final Decision
Paragon: Kill Udina then eat him
Renegade: eat him

[marshalleck]

Talosred wrote...

Over done really, an d Shep would have lost their mind before now given things.

...or not. I think it's a valid question whether Shepard's proximity to Object Rho will have any effect on his or her psyche. (S)he's never been subject to direct, continuous exposure to Reaper artifacts for 48 hours before. It may not have any effect at all in the end, but that's indeterminate for now.

[seirhart]

The kid that everyone is talking about is real and shepard isn't hallucinating. The gaming press and others at E3 that the kid is real but dies later.

I have seen games/movies with hallucination and I do not want to see it in this game at all. The games with Halluciantion are Dead Space; Dead Space 2; Alan Wake. Then there are a lot of movies that have hallucination

[Sarcastic Tasha]

I wouldn't mind if it was part of the game before Shep figures out how to beat indoctrination (she's bound to figure that out at some point). Although not sure how Shep would get indoctrinated in the first place.

[Praetor Knight]

Bocks wrote...

I don't remember if I saw this somewhere else, but imagine if Shepard's mind starts to deteriorate as the story progresses further and further. The Reapers might be indoctrinating Shepard on a great level, and some hints as to that insanity manifesting itself might be the little kid at the start of the ME3 Escape from Earth demo. I don't know about you, but "You can't help me" isn't exactly a very believeable line for a little kid. Either the writers are abandoning realism for emotional power (which I really hope isn't the case, or if it is, I hope it manifests itself only a little) or the Reapers are playing tricks on him.

Don't be surprised if at the end of Mass Effect 3, while on Earth, you start seeing old enemies appearing all around Shepard, who kills them all, one by one.

Only to realise he just killed off his entire ground team.

Nah, I think Shep is different. If you played ME1 you have that angle that could have scrambled Shep's brain, then Shep shrugs off coming back from the brink in ME2.

But if they have something related to instability, then as others mentioned I'd like it to have a similar tone to Dead Space 1 & 2, where Shepard, as Issac Clarke did, is able to overcome that sort of stress and mental instability.

Shepard is a highly trained N7 Marine after all.

Modifié par Praetor Shepard, 21 juin 2011 - 11:26 .

[marshalleck]

seirhart wrote...
Then there are a lot of movies that have hallucination

Flatliners, Event Horizon

[BloodyTalon]

marshalleck wrote...

Talosred wrote...

Over done really, an d Shep would have lost their mind before now given things.

...or not. I think it's a valid question whether Shepard's proximity to Object Rho will have any effect on his or her psyche. (S)he's never been subject to direct, continuous exposure to Reaper artifacts for 48 hours before. It may not have any effect at all in the end, but that's indeterminate for now.

A delay meltdown?

Given physc disdorders can take a bit to come to light.

[BloodyTalon]

FearedZero wrote...

Final Decision
Paragon: Kill Udina then eat him
Renegade: eat him

If only that was a choice.

[Bocks]

You all seem to be neglecting the fact that there's thousands of Reapers, incredibly advanced technological beings that are capable of controlling the minds of people remotely, around Shepard in Mass Effect 3. Or at least in the beggining, but as the Reaper Base demo showed, we're going to be seeing Reapers outside of Earth.

And the kid dies when his shuttle explodes due to a Ground Reaper lazering it. We don't see the kid getting shot in the head or something like that.

I'm not trying to say that it will go like this, I'm just saying that it's all set up in a curious and vague way.

[onelifecrisis]

FearedZero wrote...

Final Decision
Paragon: Kill Udina then eat him
Renegade: eat him

LOL

You should post that in the "where's my paragon" thread!

[Medhia Nox]

@FearedZero - I play Paragon almost exclusively and I would choose the Renegade option for that!

[LTiberious]

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