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[Auru]

Not interested

[NedPepper]

One thing about new content: It brings back all the rage and vitriol of the last five months....sigh...

Not Baldur's Gate, blah blah blah...hack'n'slash...blah blah blah...Bioware betrayed us and are evil, evil Canadians....blah...blah.....bleh.

And so on.

[TEWR]

I'm hoping the Pride Demon does more than just make copies of itself. I mean the Desire Demon did that in Origins in the Fade.


Now if he can also summon reinforcements like the Baroness could and can cast some top tier spells, it'll be a start. But I doubt it.

[TEWR]

nedpepper wrote...

One thing about new content: It brings back all the rage and vitriol of the last five months....sigh...

Not Baldur's Gate, blah blah blah...hack'n'slash...blah blah blah...Bioware betrayed us and are evil, evil Canadians....blah...blah.....bleh.

And so on.

But Canadians are evil!

[JaegerBane]

Filament wrote...

Eh, not to agree with the tenor of some people here, but there were a few things I didn't like.

1) Whoever named those pillars must have been, in fact, the janitor.

What.

2) A pride demon that can create mirror images of itself isn't exactly an innovative boss battle to entice us with.

Probably not. I'd still take it over that absurd 'ghostly golem' any day.

3) the wooden area with the ramp may be unique, but the elements used do have a pretty generic, unimpressive look about them. More boring brown sandy stuff.

I think there is a line to be drawn between what is recycled and what appears to be in the theme of the game. I think most people's issues with the environments in DA2 were that they were carbon copies of other areas, right down to using exactly the same map, complete with areas that you couldn't access on this particular cave.... not the fact that you were going in caves and ruins.

If you take issue with ruins and sand in a fantasy game, I can't help feel that you're playing the wrong game.

[TEWR]

the pillars are named "Pillar of Critical Chance", "Pillar of Stunning", etc..


I mean god, they could've named them Luck's Way for critical chance, Perplexity's Arrow for stunning, etc..


Just something not so.... simple as what they're actually named.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 08 juillet 2011 - 08:31 .

[JaegerBane]

skyrend wrote...

If Bioware hasn't fully gotten the message that DA2 was horrible, I would hope that users can send the message more clearly by not buying into the short "we hear you fans" fluff that Bioware threw out there to sell another cash-in attempt off of this horrible game, as if a rip-off DLC would do anything near what's needed to redeem this game. Hopefully, the low attach rate of DLC can convince them that they should have already moved on from this wreck of a title.

I can't say I'm optimistic.

For those of us who mainly had issues with recycled environments and god-awful third acts, a DLC that concentrates on interesting stuff in a new area (as oppose to boring 'who cares?' claptrap about politics in a generic fantasy city that we've already spent two acts in) actually *would* do a lot to redeem issues the base game has.

Believe it or not, some of us actually quite liked how the game played, and it's high time this absurd myth that 'everyone hates DA2' died a death. It's hardly the strongest title Bioware have ever done and it's a long way down from the ME games and DA:O..... but that doesn't mean it's terrible. Personally, I'd wager this is precisely the kind of situation that DLC *can* fix... but it will depend on how long it is. I hope it gives a good few hours.

[JaegerBane]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

the pillars are named "Pillar of Critical Chance", "Pillar of Stunning", etc..


I mean god, they could've named them Luck's Way for critical chance, Perplexity's Arrow for stunning, etc..


Just something not so.... simple as what they're actually named.

Yeah, well.... sure, I guess they could have slightly more complex names. It's not really something that stands out as a major negative to me, to be honest..... I mean, they're names of pillars. IT's not like it's going to have *that* much impact on the story or how the DLC plays, any more than the colour of walls or the names of the grey wardens.

[TEWR]

The pillars do have an effect on Hawke's weapon.


To me, it's kinda a big deal because Bioware's supposed to be creative and those were the best names they could come up with?


I mean, I'm still going to buy the DLC when it becomes available on the PS3, but it's just one of those "Really?" kinda things.

[DKJaigen]

Its once again amazing how people are ****ing about a game they have by their own admission not played the game for in months and hate it with a passion. i once again see some familiar names and i wonder if these people have nothing better to with their lives.

[TEWR]

I also want to say that I enjoy watching the DLC trailer and constantly hitting the 5 button so I can see Hawke get launched into the air. Makes me laugh.

[TEWR]

Oh yeah, and I think the lady who does a Justice type glow might be a Rivaini seer. Just a hunch.

[JaegerBane]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

The pillars do have an effect on Hawke's weapon.

What I mean is that I'm not going to be stalking around Kirkwall obsessing over how my shiny new staff gained it's abilities from pillars that didn't have particularly original names. Any more than I'll obsess about why Magnus wears such a funny hat or that particular barrel I found several years ago on the wounded coast had a shade of brown that was a tad too dark to be the wood I'm normally used to.

[TEWR]

fair enough.

[Ronin2006]

I won't be getting Legacy because I don't buy DLC for incomplete games or games that are just plain awful, but I do think the preview video looks promising, certainly more promising than the DA2 preview video. Hopefully, it reflects a shift towards more quality from Bioware, and I might just be willing to give DA3 and ME3 a chance when they are released.

The video hints at a more dramatic and interesting story than DA2.  I don't mind politics and the Mages vs Templars angle, but political stories have never been Bioware's strength, and just having the big old evil dark spawn plays much more into Bioware's strengths.  But this can only be assessed after we see some more gameplay, and can judge the product after completion, but so far so good.  I do think however, that regardless of the end result, it is something that probably should've been contained in DA2 as that game was far too small and incomplete as a core game.

Unfotunately, the fetish for bland sandblasted colours has remained, and the art direction still seems to be influenced by DA2.  Also, the combat is still cartoony and zany like DA2 (I guess the combat and art direction has to be consistent , but it doesn't mean I have to like it)

Modifié par Ronin2006, 08 juillet 2011 - 09:22 .

[JaegerBane]

Filament wrote...
They have horrible names.

Yes. I wasn't bemused at what you were getting at. I was bemused as to why you considered this worth complaining about. As I mentioned to ethereal, getting bothered about the names of pillars comes across like you're *looking* for things to pick faults with. If you're going to take issue with that, why not get annoyed at the designs of the griffons on the walls, or the fact the bricks are very large, or perhaps the tower being too tall? All I'm saying is that, for things that jump out as being negative to a viewer, these seem to be rather silly. Being a little unsure of the Genlock redesign I can understand, given how different they are to DA:O.... but a name on a pillar you'll only ever see three times? Hmmm....

I wasn't implicitly endorsing the ghostly golem.

And I didn't say you were, I was simply pointing out that there are a lot worse boss encounters to judge by then a decoying pride demon. In the grand scheme of things, it's not that bad.

I didn't say it was about recycled environments. It's about the environment being boring. That theme of the game in particular, with the wood built on top of sandy stuff, I don't find to be very inspiring, no. And it's not just because "I don't like ruins and sand," there are plenty of other games with "ruins and sand" with more inspiring level design than that.

I'm not sure it makes much sense to comment on the level design of a DLC you've seen played for less than 5 minutes. I assumed you were getting at the environment style, as that's really the only thing you can take from the tiny amount of stuff we've actually seen.

[stoicsentry2]

Doesn't really look interesting, another mini-quest, maybe an hour of gameplay? Meh. No new party members, doesn't really fix anything... not that I expected it too. Anyway, after watching the Watters interview, it's a no-go for me.

[Nimrodell]

I'm one of the people that likes DA2 and from what I've seen in presentation, I like it. Can't say anything more, need to play it in order to have valid opinion on it. And that's the beautiful part, no one is twisting my arm to buy that dlc nor forcing me to give shallow review of something I haven't even played yet. Looking forward to it.

[Xetmkiak]

Ancient Evil trapped by magical seal in the lowest level of a Tower-Prison, watched by an old Order...

Am I the only one who thinks that this sounds similar to The Watcher's Keep add-in to Baldur's Gate II

I hope that Hawke won't accidentally release that Evil and have to fix his mistake.
But so far sounds good. 

[ARustyFirePlace]

don't care.

[Corto81]

I was interested when the trailer was loading....

But the excitement fully disappeared once I saw Hawke's bland face, Anders glowing and just the general lack of detail on pretty much everything.

It's still DA2, and it's still a sub-par game by BW standards.

Skipping all DA2 DLCs, personally, and I decided only AFTER seeing that trailer...
Gonna wait for DA3.

[leeboi2]

Corto81 wrote...

I was interested when the trailer was loading....

But the excitement fully disappeared once I saw Hawke's bland face, Anders glowing and just the general lack of detail on pretty much everything.

It's still DA2, and it's still a sub-par game by BW standards.

Skipping all DA2 DLCs, personally, and I decided only AFTER seeing that trailer...
Gonna wait for DA3.

The nonexistant trailer?...