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Genlocks burrow to the surface to appear on the screen.


DA2 Genlock design =  :sick:

Seriously?? They looked great in DAO, imo, like slightly-modified goblins (which is appropriate for the fantasy theme). Here, the Genlocks look like Dinosaur/Gremlin/Ape combinations! Ugh...

DA3 better change the art direction to something that looked great like Origins was, on top of many other things they need to change from DA2...

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Also, I understand your point about how "Darktown" etc. are names of parts of Kirkwall, and I fully understand this, know this, and have made my comments knowing this.  (As much as I felt I had to turn my brain off to play DA2, I did still have it engaged enough to take note of this)  The difference is however, that names you have provided like "Downtown", and "Upper East Side"  are colloquialisms for locations within cities and not official names themselves.  They aren't creative or interesting names, they are just names that people use for convenience.  Most large cities have a city centre, but if the official name of that city centre was something like "City Central", then the mayor (or whoever came up with the name) would rightly be accused of lacking imagination.  These locations actually do, in real life, generally possess a more colourful real name.

Now, whether DA2's names were meant to be colloquialisms or not, the fact remains that it took virtually no creativity to come up with them, and in something that is meant to be in a fantasy setting (and thus not filled with modern day colloquialisms), such terms are immersion breaking for some, and reak of laziness and poor writing in my opinion.  Maybe I'm a sucker for traditional old school fantasy cliche, but something that sounds like an old ancient language is much more immersive in a fantasy game, than something that sounds like a bunch of modern Americanisms.

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You should get on DA:Os case regarding the names of sections in Denerim aswell then, they're very basic as well.  such as: marketplace,  dark ally, rundown back street, etc. Having basic names for areas of an already large city is more a matter of keeping things simple and easy to remember rather than totally uncreative.
 

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The more I see of legacy the more I think it looks like a less good retelling of Awakening.

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FitScotGaymer wrote...

The more I see of legacy the more I think it looks like a less good retelling of Awakening.


Just saw the gameplay demo.

A - the surroundings are so bland I can't believe... Especially after TW2

B - the whole DLC looks like an instance from an MMO, including boss fights... WoW, EQ2, Rift, whatever...
It really does smell that way to me.

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Corto81 wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...

The more I see of legacy the more I think it looks like a less good retelling of Awakening.


Just saw the gameplay demo.

A - the surroundings are so bland I can't believe... Especially after TW2

B - the whole DLC looks like an instance from an MMO, including boss fights... WoW, EQ2, Rift, whatever...
It really does smell that way to me.


Yea sadly I have to agree, I guess they are ditching the COD crowd for the WoW crowd since they found out not all FPS fans like singleplayer RPGs.

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stop complaining, i bet they are working on an expansion as we speak. HAWKE till the end baby yeah!

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i like how the genlock look
change isn't worst thing
staying same is worst thing

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One of the achievements require that your sibling is in your party for this dlc. Does this mean that the only way to get the achievement is by doing it in act 1?

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InHarmsWay wrote...

One of the achievements require that your sibling is in your party for this dlc. Does this mean that the only way to get the achievement is by doing it in act 1?

If your sibling is on the party select screen (even if grayed out), you will be able to take him/her with you. The devs said there'll be explanation for their presence post act 1.

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InHarmsWay wrote...

One of the achievements require that your sibling is in your party for this dlc. Does this mean that the only way to get the achievement is by doing it in act 1?

If your sibling is on the party select screen (even if grayed out), you will be able to take him/her with you. The devs said there'll be explanation for their presence post act 1.


That's good to know.

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elfdwarf wrote...

i like how the genlock look
change isn't worst thing
staying same is worst thing


No, changing so drastically from a wildly successful predecssor is the worst thing. This isn't DA4 or DA5. This is DA2. Change for the sake of change is ****e.

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the way I would like to see things happen for DA3 is for your warden to come back and for Hawke to be just a character in your party. It'd be an interesting concept in mind cause you helped create a living breathing character so to speak and you get your old character back! Everyone wins :D

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the way I would like to see things happen for DA3 is for your warden to come back and for Hawke to be just a character in your party. It'd be an interesting concept in mind cause you helped create a living breathing character so to speak and you get your old character back! Everyone wins :D


Might make them more interesting too. Because quite frankly I found Hawke to be a bit of a prat.

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Ronin2006 wrote...

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It's interesting to see what they're trying to do here, and I'm wondering if they've FINALLY accepted the fact of how bad DA2 simply was.

I'm not holding my breathe though and I CERTAINLY will NOT be WASTING my money to buy it on release. The collector in me WILL eventually get it though.

In my overall opinion, we should just drop DA2. It was a disappointment, and I don't think ANY amount of DLC (Which we'll have to PAY for mind you) or paches will fix that. We should just throw all our cards into making DA3 something to remember, like Origins.

If we're going down this road though, I am DEMANDING a FREE love interest DLC pack then. If you're gonna give me a sucky and pointless storyline, at least give me more kissy time with the boys and girls.


Agreed.

Also, am I the only one who found the LI's awful in DA2?

As I like to romance female companions, I had the option of either Ms Smelly Pirate Hooker or Merrill.  Merrill almost turns the game into some sort of virtual child molester simulator, 


Dislike DAII all you want but THIS is taking it too bloody FAR. Pedophilia is deadly serious and using it to bash a game is lower than low. Would saying "Merrill is not my type." Or "Merrill is too immature for my taste." have been so hard?

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Jesus this looks as horrible or maybe worse than DA2..Well, find out if its decent from player reviews of those who wasted their money.

All DA DLC's have sucked balls so far, the only good one was the release day Shale DLC for Origins.


Eh....I was quite fond of Soldier's Keep. And the opportunity to take Loghain back to Ostagar gave us the "That CHEATING BASTARD!" line. Priceless!

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Personally, I am very confused about the story direction taken with Legacy. One of the major complaints about DA2 is you are stuck in a city, with very few areas to explore. A city that USED to be a prison, which is ironic, because you were pretty much confined to it. And you finally get to venture out into the world... and it's to another prison. Personally, what I was hoping for was maybe some filler between Acts 1 and 2 and Acts 2 and 3. There's a lot that seemed to be missing there story wise. Ah well, I'll wait to read the reviews, and will purchase it if it's any good. I did like most of the ME2 DLC content... so maybe there's some hope.


That's what I want to believe as well.  It's just that I'm soooooooo worn out with Hawke and his uncompelling saga.  I know there are those around here who are going to get this from day one, some of them have higher standards than others and actually take the time to post honest reviews instead of the typical game studio worship that comes common with most gaming forums.

I'll wait to see what they have to say about it.


Hawke has more background than any origin, and they have a voice, they're a much better character than the grey boredom


And that's why he/she doesn't feel like your character. With the Grey Warden, you were able to make decisions that would shape his personality


Where? And responses my Warden receives do not adapt to her "personality" at all. They might as well have been talking to a ghost. Or a "deer in the headlight".......Wait........the Warden's only visible emotion WAS that hideous "deer in the headlights" insane stare.;)

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Persephone wrote...

Ronin2006 wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

It's interesting to see what they're trying to do here, and I'm wondering if they've FINALLY accepted the fact of how bad DA2 simply was.

I'm not holding my breathe though and I CERTAINLY will NOT be WASTING my money to buy it on release. The collector in me WILL eventually get it though.

In my overall opinion, we should just drop DA2. It was a disappointment, and I don't think ANY amount of DLC (Which we'll have to PAY for mind you) or paches will fix that. We should just throw all our cards into making DA3 something to remember, like Origins.

If we're going down this road though, I am DEMANDING a FREE love interest DLC pack then. If you're gonna give me a sucky and pointless storyline, at least give me more kissy time with the boys and girls.


Agreed.

Also, am I the only one who found the LI's awful in DA2?

As I like to romance female companions, I had the option of either Ms Smelly Pirate Hooker or Merrill.  Merrill almost turns the game into some sort of virtual child molester simulator, 


Dislike DAII all you want but THIS is taking it too bloody FAR. Pedophilia is deadly serious and using it to bash a game is lower than low. Would saying "Merrill is not my type." Or "Merrill is too immature for my taste." have been so hard?

<_<


Oh puh-LEEZ, Ronin was obviously exaggerating. Though yes, Merrill does act and look far too child-like with the romance scene just being plain awful. "I LOVE YOU HAWKE (oh btw i'm not a child, honest!)"

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Where? And responses my Warden receives do not adapt to her "personality" at all. They might as well have been talking to a ghost. Or a "deer in the headlight".......Wait........the Warden's only visible emotion WAS that hideous "deer in the headlights" insane stare.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]



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alex90c wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Ronin2006 wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

It's interesting to see what they're trying to do here, and I'm wondering if they've FINALLY accepted the fact of how bad DA2 simply was.

I'm not holding my breathe though and I CERTAINLY will NOT be WASTING my money to buy it on release. The collector in me WILL eventually get it though.

In my overall opinion, we should just drop DA2. It was a disappointment, and I don't think ANY amount of DLC (Which we'll have to PAY for mind you) or paches will fix that. We should just throw all our cards into making DA3 something to remember, like Origins.

If we're going down this road though, I am DEMANDING a FREE love interest DLC pack then. If you're gonna give me a sucky and pointless storyline, at least give me more kissy time with the boys and girls.


Agreed.

Also, am I the only one who found the LI's awful in DA2?

As I like to romance female companions, I had the option of either Ms Smelly Pirate Hooker or Merrill.  Merrill almost turns the game into some sort of virtual child molester simulator, 


Dislike DAII all you want but THIS is taking it too bloody FAR. Pedophilia is deadly serious and using it to bash a game is lower than low. Would saying "Merrill is not my type." Or "Merrill is too immature for my taste." have been so hard?

<_<


Oh puh-LEEZ, Ronin was obviously exaggerating. Though yes, Merrill does act and look far too child-like with the romance scene just being plain awful. "I LOVE YOU HAWKE (oh btw i'm not a child, honest!)"


Hmmmmmmm..........so many burst out the three magical words when they are in love........it happens a lot. That doesn't bother me at all. Making light of pedophilia (Exaggerating is no excuse) bothers me quite a bit. It's disgusting.

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My Husband disliked Merrill immensely and just ignored her when he played.

He actually liked Athenril. LOL

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Melca36 wrote...

My Husband disliked Merrill immensely and just ignored her when he played.

He actually liked Athenril. LOL


Athenril kicks ass. I like her quite a bit. Good to see an elf in charge for a change!:wub:

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Persephone wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

My Husband disliked Merrill immensely and just ignored her when he played.

He actually liked Athenril. LOL


Athenril kicks ass. I like her quite a bit. Good to see an elf in charge for a change!:wub:

I killed her on my last run.

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Oh puh-LEEZ, Ronin was obviously exaggerating. Though yes, Merrill does act and look far too child-like with the romance scene just being plain awful. "I LOVE YOU HAWKE (oh btw i'm not a child, honest!)"


So you're saying only a child could possibly love you?Image IPB

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Merrill looks, sounds, and acts fifteen. Not quite childlike, but pretty damn close :innocent:

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If there's grass on the field, play ball. If not....play in the dirt. (yes I went there)