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[marshalleck]

onelifecrisis wrote...

Had-to-say wrote...

...if we could teach the ships some empathy.

Shepard: It's like... basically you try to understand what someone else is feeling. You know?
Harby: BY ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL OF THEM?
Shepard: No, no, not like that. By using your imagination.
Harby: IMAGINATION. A FEEBLE ATTEMPT BY ORGANICS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHICH IS BEYOND THEIR PERCEPTION.
Shepard: Well, yes, you could put it like that, but -
Harby: DIRECT CONTROL IS SUPERIOR.
Shepard: No, no, listen Harby, this is important. Direct control is immoral, you understand?
Harby: MORALITY. AN ORGANIC DELUSION, THE WIDESPREAD ADHERENCE TO WHICH IS BENEFICIAL FOR THE SPECIES AS A WHOLE.
Shepard: I think I'm gonna need some more paragon points for this...

I like this. 

[Travie]

Reaper is the bro and they doesn't afraid of anything.

[Battlepope190]

I find them really interesting and hold no bad feelings against them for what they do; I personally believe there must be a good reason they do what they do, and hope we find out what that reason is.

[mauro2222]

nhsk wrote...

I still count on them being there as the lesser of two evils, which is why cerberus is probably working for them (instead of simple indoctrination of an entire organization all of a sudden), why Harby claims they are salvation through destruction, why the humans on Horizon should be prepared for ascendence and why their existence transcends our mere understanding.

Would be a nice twist if done properly, don't know how it should be done though

Yep. I mostly think that they give them a chance to "ascend" by becoming one with them... They try to "improve" organic life, transforming ignorance, weakness and mortality into a new level, an endless, omniscient, and cosmopolitan being. Pretty much like a god I think.

Hehe

[Teknor]

I like them. They better kill us all.

[Weiser_Cain]

I don't see what they are doing as innately evil like the game seems to want me to, it's just big fish eating the little fish, they are the big fish.
And for the record they aren't wiping out all life just the ones that have galactic civilizations.

[In Exile]

The synthesizer sounds almost the same. They sound the same to me.

- Sovereign
- Harbinger

[bmwcrazy]

I don't know. I haven't seen any hot reaper chicks.

[marshalleck]

I like Sovereign. Don't like Harbinger. Haven't met any other Reapers, so I guess right now I'm kind of on the fence.

[RaveTDC]

MrFob wrote...

What's to like? They don't have oceans, no beautiful women, not this emotion called love ... according to the old vids, they don't have anything we want.

You, my friend, get a cookie for making me laugh aloud at 1:30 in the morning.

The Reapers are an interesting group. As far as badassery, they're pretty high up the food chain. I find them more interesting than likable. One of the more popular things spinning around the rumor mill is that they actually DO save people from things like supernovas and such. Would be interesting to see something like this. Another one that seems to be gaining speed is that the Protheans were actually facists that killed all other sapient races at the time and the Reapers are protectors of the universe. The Reapers' sole purpose is to help preserve balance in the universe by eliminating combative species, hence their return after humans come and start tearing things up.

[nitrog100]

I don't understand why they're doing any of this. I'm not even sure they understand. They destroy all advanced life, and then they leave to go sleep until it's time to do it all over again. It just doesn't make any sense.

[Mister Mida]

Sovereign was good, Harbinger has become an internet meme so that says enough about it. As for the Reapers in general, I think I like them, though they lost a star on the human Reaper thing and on being cyborgs all the sudden instead of full tech. I liked them better when they were machines. And if this whole needing of organics and being cyborgs themselves doesn't play out properly in ME3, I'm gonna try to erase the last ten minutes of ME2 out of my memory and just pretend this retcon never occured.

[shepskisaac]

As characters, honestly not that much. We'll see how this goes in ME3 but so far they're just "we're evil so we want to destroy you". Nothing there really. It ain't Vader with complex arch.

[Dave of Canada]

Don't like the Reapers, I prefer "human" villains and tend to respect them more than any other character. Never been a fan of faceless evil.

[MrGone]

Like . . . "like" like?

[Wolfborn Son]

Reapers are very Lovecraftian in their nature. So I likes me Reapers. Even if Harby got a little silly. ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL!

[Fatemaster]

I like both Sovereign and Harbinger:

Sovereign: He sounded really sinister, and he had quite a speech in Virmire.

Harbinger: Sure, he turned into quite a joke with his ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL, but he proved that he was quite a mastermind with his complete control over the entire Collector army (and the Collector General).
Add that to the fact that in Arrival, he had another Sovereign-style speech, and you can consider Harbinger a smart Reaper.

Oh, and one more thing:

After you defeated Saren-Sovereign, Sovereign instantly turned into a weak enemy for the Alliance,
even for the Normandy. Harbinger released the General so he would not suffer the same fate as Sovereign. So, I like Harbinger the most out of these two.

[Halfdan The Menace]

bmwcrazy wrote...

I don't know. I haven't seen any hot reaper chicks.

                                                                                                                             

[Zigeroy]

TheCrakFox wrote...

I think they're just misunderstood.

I agree they are, did shepard ever consider... they just needed a hug... And yeah I do like the Reapers

[Uzun]

From outside, they seem like heartless-mass murderer cuttlefish-alike ships but inside they are nothing more than a beautiful butterfly full of love.

[LTiberious]

Like em, like em all

[Ieldra]

nhsk wrote...
I still count on them being there as the lesser of two evils, which is why cerberus is probably working for them (instead of simple indoctrination of an entire organization all of a sudden), why Harby claims they are salvation through destruction, why the humans on Horizon should be prepared for ascendence and why their existence transcends our mere understanding.

Would be a nice twist if done properly, don't know how it should be done though

That would be the most interesting twist. I wonder if they'd take the parallel with "Revelation Space" that far. In that case, making a decision about how to deal with them might actually be interesting instead of a foregone conclusion. Anyway, the fact remains that they want to harvest all intelligent organic life in the galaxy. Hard to imagine that as the lesser of two evils.

[Apple_NdiB]

Everyone in this thread has been indoctrinated.

[Pride Demon]

I like them... As villains they are amazingly cool: fighting something that has successfully destroyed all the most advanced life forms in the galaxy for hundreds of millions of years and only ever lost a few of their numbers is the epitome of awesome for me...

onelifecrisis wrote...

Bioware should make reaper cuddly toys. Harby would sell like hotcakes. He could have a pull-cord that makes him say random one-liners like "I KNOW YOU FEEL THIS". Okay I probably just showed my age with the pull-cord bit...

Edit: actually what do they have nowadays? Voice activation or something? I guess I'll find out soon enough. The wife is preggers...

I know the plushes you mean and it would be awesome!

However, the voice should be pitched higher, as to avoid scaring the child, and the lines adapted a bit...
"I AM THE HARBINGER OF YOUR NAPTIME!"
"ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL OF YOUR CUDDLES!"

Also, I guess congratulations are in order!

Ieldra2 wrote...

That would be the most interesting twist. I wonder if they'd take the parallel with "Revelation Space" that far. In that case, making a decision about how to deal with them might actually be interesting instead of a foregone conclusion. Anyway, the fact remains that they want to harvest all intelligent organic life in the galaxy. Hard to imagine that as the lesser of two evils.

There was a theory some time ago that mentioned how it's possible the problem with Dolen (Haestrom's sun) might be caused by excessive use of Mass Effect technology by organics...
It may be the original creators of the Reapers saw that constant use of such tech would destabilize solar mass and lead to a premature Heat Death of our galaxy (Entropy wins!)...

To prevent this, they created the Reapers who act as testers, they leave around Mass Effect tech for organics to find, if the organics that find it learn how to use it then they target them for harvesting to avoid overuse...
Of course naturally it could take millions of years for organics to develop mass effect tech on their own, but the Reapers being machines go for efficiency, if they learn how to handle it that means they would eventually have discovered it themselves: rather then wait, they force the technological advancement and call "blank slate" on the state of the galaxy at regular intervals...

The regular timing may be due to the fact the problem starts becoming acute after 50000 of Mass Effect tech usage: several start are starting to have this problem, Dolen isn't the only star dying prematurely, Solveig has the same problem... And Cerberus sees it like this: we either get killed now or die in some hundreds of thousands of years, but now we get to become machine gods and live forever, not a bad deal...

I don't exactly approve of all of this theory, but the general idea is interesting...

[tobynator89]

I think Reaper is a pretty cool guy. eh makes milkshakes and doesn't afraid of anything.