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[PatT2]

I'm watching Babylon 5 for the first time (yeah, I know, johnny come lately to the real world) but I sure see a lot of things that could have heavily influenced Mass Effect in this series.

Anyone agree?

[Bogsnot1]

ME was influenced by a lot of Sci-FI, not just B5. Nano tech for engineer classes, The Force for biotics, some Farscape and 2001 references thrown in for good measure.
I just wished they had paid attention to B5's use of physics, instead of going for the whole "spaceships fly like airplanes" crap that Star Trek rammed down our throats.

[PatT2]

I was thinking of the shadow ships... and how they remind me a little of Sovereign. And "Earthfirst" factions. There are some similarities. Some of the sounds, too, reminded me of things.

[archiev1976]

there was one episode on season 2 iirc, where Earth Alliance soldier who got spaced during space battle was ressurected in Lazarus project by one of the pro-human groups. sound familiar

[Leonia]

Yep, there have been a few threads to this effect in the past. The Citadel especially reminds me of B5, biotics have a similar niche in society that telepaths do (and have some of the same problems), the way the races interact with one another is vaguely similar even with the Council structure, and there's even a First Contact War where humanity sort of screwed up and attacked out of fear/ignorance. Also the resurrection of a certain character in B5 draws some noticeable parallels.

[Smeelia]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

I just wished they had paid attention to B5's use of physics, instead of going for the whole "spaceships fly like airplanes" crap that Star Trek rammed down our throats.

I thought they did try to get the physics right for most things, there's mention of "slowing down when we're halfway there" and such.  I suppose Mass Effect fields make a difference though (especially for the Normandy) so they can do more with less thrust.  Also, I don't know that much about physics so I'd miss a lot of mistakes.

leonia42 wrote...

there's even a First Contact War where humanity sort of screwed up and attacked out of fear/ignorance.

In ME it was the Turians who got it wrong (and the war wasn't nearly as bad) but it's still similar.

Mass Effect could use a G'Kar to make speeches.

[Leonia]

Well, if I recall, humanity had pushed its way into turian space.. that one is up for debate but the similiarities do exist, yes.

If the Shadow War is any allusion to the upcoming Reaper invasion, I wonder if we'll see some Vorlorn action? Maybe they have a use for those telepaths, er, biotics after all..

I can't remember who built the jump-gates in B5 but the tech is reminiscient of the mass relays, though obviously in the ME 'verse nobody knows how to control them.

If a G'Kar figure is added to the game, please let us romance him Bioware! He is the source of my xenophilia after all.

Modifié par leonia42, 22 juin 2011 - 10:00 .

[CaptainZaysh]

I tried to watch Babylon 5, I really did, but couldn't last a whole episode. Why's it so good?

[Smeelia]

leonia42 wrote...

Well, if I recall, humanity had pushed its way into turian space.. that one is up for debate but the similiarities do exist, yes.

I think the incident was that humanity were about to break council law by opening up new relays without permission.  Of course, they didn't know about council law but the Turians felt that if they waited before attacking it may be too late (once a relay is open, it's open).

leonia42 wrote...

If the Shadow War is any allusion to the upcoming Reaper invasion, I wonder if we'll see some Vorlorn action? Maybe they have a use for those telepaths, er, biotics after all..

Like holding Reapers still in mass effect fields so the fleets can attack them? Well, you never know, that might actually work.

leonia42 wrote...

I can't remember who built the jump-gates in B5 but the tech is reminiscient of the mass relays, though obviously in the ME 'verse nobody knows how to control them.

I think the different races built them and fully understand the tech (they also use jump drives on larger ships).  The Centauri taught the humans how to build jump-gates as part of a trade agreement (it was also kind of a plan to absorb humanity into the Centauri Empire).

leonia42 wrote...

If a G'Kar figure is added to the game, please let us romance him Bioware! He is the source of my xenophilia after all.

Well, at least it should be easy if they're anything like G'Kar.

CaptainZaysh wrote...

I tried to watch Babylon 5, I really did, but couldn't last a whole episode. Why's it so good?

The characters and the depth I'd say.  A lot of it is "preachy" or "anvilicious" but mostly in a good way and there's a good mix of drama and humour.

The first few episodes (and especially the pilot film thing) aren't so good but season 2-4 are brilliant (1 and 5 are okay but less good in my view, though it's not necessarily their fault since there was more executive meddling in season 1 and season 5 almost didn't happen at all).

There's not really that much action overall and it's not for everyone but I love it.

[Talthanar]

B5 is great due to how it tells a story and the continuity from episode to episode and through the seasons. Sure if you miss Season 1 a couple things in 2 - 4 don't make a lot of sense but even the recaps are pretty decent.

In the Codex there is a claim to 'beings of light.' I think this is pretty Volonee. Maybe we'll have to find whatever came before the Reapers for some backup.

Even in B5 on occasion the ships flew like planes. 99% of the time they didn't.

[Rip504]

archiev1976 wrote...

there was one episode on season 2 iirc, where Earth Alliance soldier who got spaced during space battle was ressurected in Lazarus project by one of the pro-human groups. sound familiar

Beat to it. That was my comment.

And right before I played ME1 for the first time. I had just finished watching all 5 seasons back-to-back. So my first playthrough I was the Human Hero,who loved an alien women,and united the Galaxy. While fighting an evil threat lurking in the "shadows". Lol I agree the sci-fi influence is a refreshing enjoyable laugh here and there. ME is a stand alone sci-fi.

"There is a hole in your mind"

Modifié par Rip504, 22 juin 2011 - 09:55 .

[lastpatriot]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

I just wished they had paid attention to B5's use of physics, instead of going for the whole "spaceships fly like airplanes" crap that Star Trek rammed down our throats.

Ya know, I actually never thought of that before and I have the entire B5 series.  It's like how they did BSG as well.  Pretty sad how so may scifi shows get it wrong.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

I was wondering if there's going to be a similar refugee scenario in ME3; when the Shadows attacked, ppl were fleeing and most fled to the area they thought were safe because no attacks were being carried out there but it turned out to be a trap that Sheridan discovered just in time. However, I didn't think it likely if the Reapers simply followed what they had done before; take their time mowing the galaxy before leaving. However, that worked because they shut off all the mass relays. This time, they can't and their prey are going to be running everywhere.

[WhiteKnyght]

PatT2 wrote...

I'm watching Babylon 5 for the first time (yeah, I know, johnny come lately to the real world) but I sure see a lot of things that could have heavily influenced Mass Effect in this series.

Anyone agree?

Mass Effect probably borrows elements from a lot of science fiction.

Babylon 5
Star Trek
The Terminator (Geth&Human Reaper = Terminators)
Star Wars(Asari powers = The Force)
etc

Shepard himself comes off as a cross between Captain Kirk and John Connor.

[lovgreno]

I say Babylon Five is a very good place to get inspiration from. So if the writers haven't watched a lot of B5 already (and I also suspect they have) I think they should.

[Sarah_SR2]

It has always made me think about Babylon 5 what with the reapers out in dark space and the idea of the citadel. But also the Krogans remind me of the Klingons from Star Trek whilst the adepts are kinda like Jedi ) BioWare have taken a lot of good sci-fi ideas and rolled them all into one amazing game )

[Gravity Bun]

I see lots of B5 in Mass Effect. When I first played ME I was thinking "holy sh** this is like PLAYING my favourite TV show" ... Shepard (JS) is also a similar figure to the captains in B5, I won't say more in case I spoil anything.
B5 in turn was influenced by some great SF books such as E. E. "doc" Smith's Lensman series (recommended reading!)

[wolfennights]

archiev1976 wrote...

there was one episode on season 2 iirc, where Earth Alliance soldier who got spaced during space battle was ressurected in Lazarus project by one of the pro-human groups. sound familiar

WhaaaT??

*goes to find torrent*

[Motherlander]

I think ME is very much influenced by B5 and Starship Troopers. I was watching ST last night and Toni Rico reminds me of the default male Shepard.

Modifié par Motherlander, 28 janvier 2012 - 01:28 .

[gloowacz]

Motherlander wrote...

I think ME is very much influenced by B5 and Starship Troopers. I was watching ST last night and Toni Rico reminds me of the default male Shepard.

I recommend you read the book (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_troopers)
It has some... discussable... social order ideas.

[masterp1975]

Stargate Atlantis has a crap ton of similarities as well.

[Robobeast76]

After finishing ME3 I see quite a few influences to the Shadow War cycle. Sheridan / Shepard, The Citadel / B5, uniting of alien races previously at war, an enemy that lies in wait for millenia to be found and act as a crucible to younger races.

Mass Effect is stronger for utilising similar themes consciously or unconsciously.

[theBastardSon]

Now I have not read this whole thread but I wholly agree that Babylon 5 influenced A LOT of the Mass Effect campaign. A lot of what I read are accurate similarites. Now, being that I have not read the whole thread, I am going to bring up another similarity. On season 4 episode 9 of Babylon 5 during the end credits, instead of the the original music that plays through the credits, it's Marcus Cole singing a song. The song that Marcus Cole is singing is going along the same tempo as when Mordin started singing in his lab in Mass Effect 2.

Marcus Cole singing at the end of episode 9 of season 4 during the credits (singing starts at 1:00).



Mordin Solus singing in Mass Effect (singing starts at 1:57).



See what I mean? 

[NekkidNones]

They're both derived from the patter song(s) from Pirates of Penzance. Gilbert and Sullivan operas, or comic operas from 120years ago(or so) were basically broadway.

<- example of patter song

http://en.wikipedia....rt_and_Sullivan

Modifié par MoonSpot, 06 février 2014 - 07:24 .