I've just downloaded the Arrival DLC for ME2 and I'm currently doing a new playthrough through ME2.
I've just done Horizon and all of the sudden I get the Arrival mission from Admiral Hacket. Now I'm wondering if I should do the mission now, or save it for after the suicide mission.
My question is: Does it matter if I do Arrival now or after the suicide mission? I mean, Arrival is supposed to be finishing chapter for ME2 and a bridge to ME3, right? So that makes me feel that I should wait with the Arrival mission until AFTER the suicide mission. Else it wouldn't make any sense, would it?
Can please someone explain to me how this works? I don't mind spoilers at all. So don't be afraid to spoil this.
So, can anyone explain to me how Arrival makes sense BEFORE the suicide mission? How does that work out?
Arrival: before or after the suicide mission?
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 09:09
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Story-wise, it's meant for after the suicide mission. If you do it before, the hologram of Harbinger shows the Collector General instead of himself as a Reaper. That's the only real difference.
But it makes more sense to do it after the suicide mission because the ending ties up the game nicely and sets up the opening of ME3 in my opinion.
But it makes more sense to do it after the suicide mission because the ending ties up the game nicely and sets up the opening of ME3 in my opinion.
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 09:23
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Yes after the SM. I just did it 8 times the other night to finish up the rest of my playthroughs.
Skipable Scenes in ME3 !!! Please stop doing things for me and forcing me to watch others. I thought this game was suppose to have options?
Skipable Scenes in ME3 !!! Please stop doing things for me and forcing me to watch others. I thought this game was suppose to have options?
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 10:09
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It's worth doing before the suicide mission for the upgrades and also because it sheds more light on the threat the Collectors pose. If done right after Horizon it is a nice intro to the Collector General.
Harbringer and Hackett's dialogue is slightly different.
Harbringer and Hackett's dialogue is slightly different.
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 10:10
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Saphra Deden wrote...
It's worth doing before the suicide mission for the upgrades and also because it sheds more light on the threat the Collectors pose. If done right after Horizon it is a nice intro to the Collector General.
Harbringer and Hackett's dialogue is slightly different.
What do Harbinger and Hackett say differently?
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 10:29
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What do Harbinger and Hackett say differently?
Well the only different line from him is "Your leaders will beg to be harvested" (insead of "Beg to serve us."
However when Shepard meets Hackett back on the Normandy instead of asking him what he's doing to prepare against the Reapers he asks Hackett what they're doing about the Collectors.
Hackett says they are posting fleets to guard their larger colonies and evacuating smaller ones, however any ships which encounter the Collectors promptly drop out of the contact so they're hoping you and Cerberus can "pull this off".
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 11:06
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Saphra Deden wrote...
Seboist wrote...
What do Harbinger and Hackett say differently?
Well the only different line from him is "Your leaders will beg to be harvested" (insead of "Beg to serve us."
However when Shepard meets Hackett back on the Normandy instead of asking him what he's doing to prepare against the Reapers he asks Hackett what they're doing about the Collectors.
Hackett says they are posting fleets to guard their larger colonies and evacuating smaller ones, however any ships which encounter the Collectors promptly drop out of the contact so they're hoping you and Cerberus can "pull this off".
The Hackett bit is pretty interesting. The grand threat of the Collectors is very subtle in the main game.
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 11:08
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dont do it before wait till after . dont do the shadow broker till late in the game either better to do just before the suicide mission
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 11:08
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Seboist wrote...
The Hackett bit is pretty interesting. The grand threat of the Collectors is very subtle in the main game.
Which is why Arrival is fun to do pre-Suicide Mission.
It makes the entire rest of the main game seem a bit more desperate. You know the Reapers are on your doorstep and the Collectors actually are more than a match for the Alliance. Gives a new tone to the game.
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 11:20
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Saphra Deden wrote...
Seboist wrote...
The Hackett bit is pretty interesting. The grand threat of the Collectors is very subtle in the main game.
Which is why Arrival is fun to do pre-Suicide Mission.
It makes the entire rest of the main game seem a bit more desperate. You know the Reapers are on your doorstep and the Collectors actually are more than a match for the Alliance. Gives a new tone to the game.
Sounds interessting. Seems BioWare actually thought this Arrival DLC through pretty well. Impressive, for a DLC that only gets mediocre rates in reviews.
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 11:23
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How about The Illusive Man? Does he respond to anything that happens in the Arrival DLC?
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 11:29
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How about The Illusive Man? Does he respond to anything that happens in the Arrival DLC?
I'm afraid not.
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Posté 22 juin 2011 - 11:45
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Doing Arrival immediately in disc two really is an excellent justification for rushing the Suicide Mission without doing all the missions, thanks to the time-urgency it can add.
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Posté 23 juin 2011 - 04:43
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Dean_the_Young wrote...
Doing Arrival immediately in disc two really is an excellent justification for rushing the Suicide Mission without doing all the missions, thanks to the time-urgency it can add.
lol thanks to your comment i find myself needing to go though mass effect 2 for the 6th ( last playthough lol) love the idea behind that really justifies not doing all the loyality missions :-) i never do them all as i like to have people die on the last mission adds more drama. everyone surviving is rubbish
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Posté 23 juin 2011 - 04:44
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also what happens if you do the shadow broker dlc after the main mission??
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Posté 23 juin 2011 - 04:55
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Daddy555 wrote...
also what happens if you do the shadow broker dlc after the main mission??
The dialogue changes a little bit.
I actually like doing it before the suicide mission more because the Shadow Broekr comes off as more threatening to Shepard.
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Posté 23 juin 2011 - 06:19
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I think it makes more sense to do it immediately.. i mean your told its an imminent threat.. why on earth would shep think "actually you know what.. i have more important things to do than stop the reaper invasion.. like doing loyalty missions and stopping these bugpeople from taking a few colonists" lol
and after killing all those batarians.. the convos you have with characters like mordin about the genophage and all the lives hes stopped from existing.. i couldnt bring myself to hate his decision anymore.. did what needed to be done.. it puts a new spin on the game and how you play it..
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and after killing all those batarians.. the convos you have with characters like mordin about the genophage and all the lives hes stopped from existing.. i couldnt bring myself to hate his decision anymore.. did what needed to be done.. it puts a new spin on the game and how you play it..
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Posté 23 juin 2011 - 06:29
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For plot?
After.
In-game gains?
Doesn't matter.
Canon timeline?
10 to 4 months after Suicide Mission.
After.
In-game gains?
Doesn't matter.
Canon timeline?
10 to 4 months after Suicide Mission.
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Posté 23 juin 2011 - 01:33
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Wazzanut wrote...
I think it makes more sense to do it immediately.. i mean your told its an imminent threat.. why on earth would shep think "actually you know what.. i have more important things to do than stop the reaper invasion.. like doing loyalty missions and stopping these bugpeople from taking a few colonists" lol
and after killing all those batarians.. the convos you have with characters like mordin about the genophage and all the lives hes stopped from existing.. i couldnt bring myself to hate his decision anymore.. did what needed to be done.. it puts a new spin on the game and how you play it..
Yet I would say that a cure to the genophage would be a welcome surprise. I can imagine that a lot of krogan could come in handy against a reaper invasion. The krogan stopped the rachni in the good ol' days so who knows that they can do against the reapers if they're cured from the genophage.
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Posté 23 juin 2011 - 01:36
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Saphra Deden wrote...
Daddy555 wrote...
also what happens if you do the shadow broker dlc after the main mission??
The dialogue changes a little bit.
I actually like doing it before the suicide mission more because the Shadow Broekr comes off as more threatening to Shepard.
Talking about the Shadow Broker DLC. How is the whole romance thing resolved if you do the Shadow Broker DLC before the suicide mission? So far, I've only done it after the suicide mission. In most of my playthroughs, I romanced Miranda, but I gave up Miranda to get Liara back. But, how does this work out if you do the Shadow Broker DLC before you actually romanced any of the ME2 squad members?
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Posté 23 juin 2011 - 05:46
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Luc0s wrote...
Talking about the Shadow Broker DLC. How is the whole romance thing resolved if you do the Shadow Broker DLC before the suicide mission? So far, I've only done it after the suicide mission. In most of my playthroughs, I romanced Miranda, but I gave up Miranda to get Liara back. But, how does this work out if you do the Shadow Broker DLC before you actually romanced any of the ME2 squad members?
From my understanding, there's a few different dialogue changes. After you beat the first boss, remember how you had Paragon actions with her? Well some of the dialogue in that is different in that it talks about their relationship and Shepherd doesn't know what to do. Also the experience after you beat the Shadow Broker and she comes aboard the Normandy is different, I suggest looking at a few videos on youtube, very easy to find.
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Posté 23 juin 2011 - 08:25
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Sterlin22 wrote...
Luc0s wrote...
Talking about the Shadow Broker DLC. How is the whole romance thing resolved if you do the Shadow Broker DLC before the suicide mission? So far, I've only done it after the suicide mission. In most of my playthroughs, I romanced Miranda, but I gave up Miranda to get Liara back. But, how does this work out if you do the Shadow Broker DLC before you actually romanced any of the ME2 squad members?
From my understanding, there's a few different dialogue changes. After you beat the first boss, remember how you had Paragon actions with her? Well some of the dialogue in that is different in that it talks about their relationship and Shepherd doesn't know what to do. Also the experience after you beat the Shadow Broker and she comes aboard the Normandy is different, I suggest looking at a few videos on youtube, very easy to find.
Yeah okay, but consider this:
What if I would do the Shadow Broker DLC before the suicide mission, get reinvolved with Liara in romance again, then hit on one of my ME2 squaddies. Is that even possible? If it is possible, does that mean it's possibe to cheat on Liara after doing the Shadow Broker DLC?
Please explain this, if you can.
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Posté 23 juin 2011 - 08:56
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I see it as the big final ME2 mission as it has more suspense in Shepard dying then any other in the game. After SM for me.
NOTE - The only difference is who greets you at the end of the DLC.
Before - Collector General (ie. Harbinger)
After - Harbinger (ie. Harbinger.... duh)
NOTE - The only difference is who greets you at the end of the DLC.
Before - Collector General (ie. Harbinger)
After - Harbinger (ie. Harbinger.... duh)
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