DreamerM wrote...
No more Logain talk in the Crazy Mage thread please! The DA:O board is a click away!
Ryzaki wrote...
jlb524 wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
@jlb524: You don't get more GWs. Alistair leaves.
metagaming
...he flat out tells you he's gonna leave if you recruit Loghain.
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
It's for King Alistair, if you put him on the throne. I don't exile him so I don't know if Eamon still says it then.
Or even if he's executed.
I never heard that. :/
castle redcliffe, as soon as you can walk around. Talk to Eamon.
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
The game doens't allow you to punch Alsitair in the face and throw him in a dungeon and then do the joining and see what happens.
Which is what I rp when I execute him, to make sense of it. That's he's taken to the dungeons, and then executed when Loghain is made sure to be alive.
Because beheading him in the throne room is only something my CEs would do. My HNs would want everything stripped from him first then execute him publically.
Modifié par Ryzaki, 26 juin 2011 - 09:40 .
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Slavery has many forms and rarely were they nightmarish. It's little different than working for a crap wage and not being provided shelter. Many slaves would have lived better lives. Enough that they could even free themselves.
Ryzaki wrote...
jlb524 wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
@jlb524: You don't get more GWs. Alistair leaves.
metagaming
...he flat out tells you he's gonna leave if you recruit Loghain.
Foolsfolly wrote...
Heck, you can't sell Anders out to the Templars as a violent, mentally unstable Abomination, but you CAN sell Fenris back to Denarius for no goddamned good reason.
You don't even get that much gold for him.
There is something seriously wrong with this picture.
That's because you're heading down the plot railroad. Choo Choo!
Ryzaki wrote...
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
The game doens't allow you to punch Alsitair in the face and throw him in a dungeon and then do the joining and see what happens.
Which is what I rp when I execute him, to make sense of it. That's he's taken to the dungeons, and then executed when Loghain is made sure to be alive.
I execute Loghain and RP it that we threw him in the dungeon and had a public execution where his crimes were read outloud and the whole shebang.
Foolsfolly wrote...
Persephone wrote...
Foolsfolly wrote...
Killing him while his honor was in doubt, with papers in hand that prove he was selling Fereldens to foreign interests, allowing blood mages to poison arls, overstepping Chantry law, and generally being overly paranoid about phantom Orelsians while the country falls to the Blight he doesn't believe exists.
And Ali's reasons are as clear as day. Loghain's responsible for Duncan's death and the persecution of the Wardens while Ferelden falls to a Blight.
The Orlesian threat is REAL.
And if anyone is responsible for Duncan's death, it's Cailan and his glory hunting/being "bored" by strategy. Never mind the delayed beacon. Never mind that Duncan was mortally wounded seconds after the beacon was lit. (Unless more time passed between cutscenes than they hint at) Had Loghain charged on horses or on griffins, he couldn't have saved Duncan or Cailan.
The Orlesian threat is not real. It honestly looks like (thanks to Return to Ostagar) that Cailan and Celene were having an affair and that the good king was about to dust off his likely barren peasant-linage wife for the Empress. And then Loghain kills him off through betrayal.
Would it have ended the Blight? Maybe, who knows. There's also the fact that Loghain'd already poisoned Eamon and the knights of Redcliffe hadn't arrived because of it. Had they been there too there'd have been a greater chance of success.
jlb524 wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
jlb524 wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
@jlb524: You don't get more GWs. Alistair leaves.
metagaming
...he flat out tells you he's gonna leave if you recruit Loghain.
What if he's hardened?
DreamerM wrote...
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Slavery has many forms and rarely were they nightmarish. It's little different than working for a crap wage and not being provided shelter. Many slaves would have lived better lives. Enough that they could even free themselves.
They were still slaves.
And for me, and for a lot of people, that's the bottom line.
Except you see him being beheaded, while Alistair is just taken away.
I suspect that preprations for the execution take time.
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DreamerM wrote...
Really, I can't get over how little Fenris sells for. 5 gold? I punch demons in the face with stuff worth more then 5 gold. The price of lyrium-enfused slaves sure isn't what it used to be.
DreamerM wrote...
Foolsfolly wrote...
Heck, you can't sell Anders out to the Templars as a violent, mentally unstable Abomination, but you CAN sell Fenris back to Denarius for no goddamned good reason.
You don't even get that much gold for him.
There is something seriously wrong with this picture.
That's because you're heading down the plot railroad. Choo Choo!
Really, I can't get over how little Fenris sells for. 5 gold? I punch demons in the face with stuff worth more then 5 gold. The price of lyrium-enfused slaves sure isn't what it used to be.
Ryzaki wrote...
Pretty sure he tells you he's gone hardened or not. (assuming you don't mention him and Anora getting married).
Ryzaki wrote...
Except you see him being beheaded, while Alistair is just taken away.
I suspect that preprations for the execution take time.
And you're told Alistair was executed right afterwards.
Headcanon is just that. Headcanon.
So 4 LEGIONS at the border are imaginary? Right.
Foolsfolly wrote...
::cough::So 4 LEGIONS at the border are imaginary? Right.
There's a Blight going on and the King's asking for aid::cough::
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Told, not shown. I can rp that my Warden sent the executioner a message to wait for a bit.
Sure, headcanon. But when the game already broke my immersion when it limited my options to unrealistic levels, it essentially told me that Loghain will live. So the possibility of him dying has no bearing to the choice, since yuou are limited in your ways to deal with it.
jlb524 wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
Pretty sure he tells you he's gone hardened or not. (assuming you don't mention him and Anora getting married).
I saw this.
Foolsfolly wrote...
::cough::So 4 LEGIONS at the border are imaginary? Right.
There's a Blight going on and the King's asking for aid::cough::
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Foolsfolly wrote...
::cough::So 4 LEGIONS at the border are imaginary? Right.
There's a Blight going on and the King's asking for aid::cough::
They were sent a message to turn back.
They did not, they camped at the borders.
Which goes to show that Wardens are failures.
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Foolsfolly wrote...
::cough::So 4 LEGIONS at the border are imaginary? Right.
There's a Blight going on and the King's asking for aid::cough::
They were sent a message to turn back.
They did not, they camped at the borders.
Which goes to show that Wardens are failures.
Ryzaki wrote...
Except they tell you after Alistair's been exectued.
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